DPS don't have to DPS

obviously, in light of the mr happy interview at the media tour with yoshi p, dps shouldn't be expected to do proper rotations. i mean, why else would they give dps healing spells and damage mitigation? if ninjas can spam dancing edge and clear their level 60 job quest with 0 buffs, and no echo, why can't we do this in raids? clearly the fights have no enrage or dps requirements so we can just spam the prettiest skills we have until we run out of MP/TP. :rolleyes:

i agree. in fact sometimes i /follow mobs and set them to auto attack and we clear the instance. u know those dps that are below healers on the enmity list in like trials roulette? theyre the real elite players in the game. they pay their subs

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Originally Posted by echatl

obviously, in light of the mr happy interview at the media tour with yoshi p, dps shouldn't be expected to do proper rotations.

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Well then, a lot of you DPS are already ahead of the game because you don't do that now.

Though I do see threads coming up about how other jobs have utilities to benefit other members and probably won't use them. Though these fights are not intended to use healer damage to get through it doesn't mean their design doesn't allow it to happen. I guess the salt from us white mages has finally filled to the top and is sprinkling over the other jobs too.

Good luck! See you in StormBlood! #youdontpaymysub

I get that the thread is meant to be a joke, but it's one w/o a punchline.
It's also not really reflective of any actual beliefs, or a counter to any beliefs.
TL;DR I just dont get it.

#youdontpaymysub

EDIT: I think what you're trying to do, is make an equivalency to Healers should heal, not DPS, but then went and made DPS shouldnt DPS?
Wouldnt the equivalent be "DPS shouldnt worry about CC, DPS only" or "DPS shouldnt use quelling strikes, tanks worry about threat" or "Casters shouldnt use Virus, tanks should mitigate." or even "Ranged shouldnt give MP, healers should watch their own MP." rather than DPS shouldnt DPS?

I don't get what's going on here, but I suspect that sarcasm is at play.

whelp, might as well do the healers job when i roll RDM and spam vercure.

Again, this is just the community reacting to bad design. If healers and tanks were kept busy doing healing and threat/mitigation, no one would ask them to DPS (like in most MMOs). Yoshi P can solve this disagreement with content tuning.

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Yoshi P can solve this disagreement with content tuning.

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Oh, yes. But he doesn't want to, because he wants every half-blind person with an amputated dominant hand and paralyzed other to be able to play healers/tanks without issues.

At one of the fanfests, they did say that Heavensward dungeon content had been too easy and that they wanted to make more challenging dungeon content for Stormblood. Let's see how that works out.

What rotations do you speak of??? We faceroll keyboards...

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Red Mage with that fairly potent cure + rez, must be the new healer

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Red Mage with that fairly potent cure + rez, must be the new healer

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I wouldn't be surprised if there are parties everywhere with single healers because RDM or single Tanks because SAM and their 15s 20% damage reduction CD + 500 Potency self heal.

I'm totally out of the loop, can someone explain what is going on?

Please this topic is so last week. Move on

Please don't bring this nonsense over to this section.

Except it's not a design issue... it's a salty playerbase issue. At the start of content you need to heal and follow mechanics but as players out gear the content the amount of work they put into it also goes down. If YoshiP just scales all content up every patch new players would even be able to get gear. But stay salty.

#youdontpaymysub

i'd like to thank u all for being so bitter and unable to comprehend sarcasm. especially when someone suggest ninjas should be fine to spam dancing edge all the time to clear savage content. thank u. if u aren't able to optimize your damage output in content then consider learning to and if you blatantly refuse to then stop whining that it's meta for people to optimize. that's actually my point lol.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Isn't that already the case? I mean, if they were dpsing properly we wouldn't still have failed dps check on Bismark in patch 3.4

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Well then, a lot of you DPS are already ahead of the game because you don't do that now.

Though I do see threads coming up about how other jobs have utilities to benefit other members and probably won't use them. Though these fights are not intended to use healer damage to get through it doesn't mean their design doesn't allow it to happen. I guess the salt from us white mages has finally filled to the top and is sprinkling over the other jobs too.

Good luck! See you in StormBlood! #youdontpaymysub

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Whatta you know, you're just a carpenter.

I really do not understand how one equates what Yoshi-p said in that they see the game as pretty strict to the holy trinity in that Healers should not have to DPS...with "NOONE HAS TO DO THEIR PRIMARY JOB!?!?!?!"

I for the life of me just cannot understand that thought process. Yes, healers that don't DPS are annoying; just like tanks who don't stance dance and DPS that cannot do a rotation to save their lives. Neither of those things is game altering the way people whining about non-DPS healers would make it out to be.

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I for the life of me just cannot understand that thought process. Yes, healers that don't DPS are annoying; just like tanks who don't stance dance and DPS that cannot do a rotation to save their lives. Neither of those things is game altering the way people whining about non-DPS healers would make it out to be.

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And it becomes annoying when people who want the best of the best of players don't strictly play with the best players. Forcing someone out of their comfort zone is utter bs... If A12S was cleared with the WHM having 0 dps, is it REALLY that big of a deal?

Shouldn't be.

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And it becomes annoying when people who want the best of the best of players don't strictly play with the best players. Forcing someone out of their comfort zone is utter bs... If A12S was cleared with the WHM having 0 dps, is it REALLY that big of a deal?

Shouldn't be.

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I wouldn't be surprised if there are parties everywhere with single healers because RDM or single Tanks because SAM and their 15s 20% damage reduction CD + 500 Potency self heal.

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I'm just waiting for the inevitable one tank, seven red mage parties.

Ahhh...

NOW I see where this stuff came from.

I had seen threads like this popping up in various other places... I was going wtf?

Its the healer thing again popping up.