MAN THE CANNONS!

So I just got out of a terrible experience with a DRK, MNK, and MCH in Stone Vigil. I would honestly say it's mostly for MCH fault for mainly doing just Spread Shot and Lead Shot on two or less enemies (even insulting my MCH skills by saying I need to do more math?). We get to the second boss, and nobody is keeping an eye on the cannons. I'm trying to keep everyone alive, but nope. We wiped and everyone bailed instead of trying to improve. So I want to ask everyone here; who should be in charge of the cannons? The WHM or a ranged DPS?

In my experience, its always the healer that watches the cannons. Its rare to see a tank be squishy enough that you can't take your attention off of them for a few moments at a time (I normally keep track via the party list rather than actually looking over at them). I'd say it doesn't matter if you like to DPS as a healer or not at that point.

In Stone Vigil hard? Everyone should take a cannon. 4 cannons for 4 players. The boss can literally only be harmed with those cannons. Keep an eye out for his aoe, one of the cannon skills can be used to stun. If you see him rotating in your direction, drop the cannon and get the hell out of the way. As healer, stay on cannon until someone needs healing, drop it, go heal them and get back to shooting.

Nope. Stone Vigil normal. Problem is, the DRK was pretty squishy

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Originally Posted by DPaladinD

In my experience, its always the healer that watches the cannons. Its rare to see a tank be squishy enough that you can't take your attention off of them for a few moments at a time (I normally keep track via the party list rather than actually looking over at them). I'd say it doesn't matter if you like to DPS as a healer or not at that point.

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Yeah, I would say the tank was squishy. Was barely able to keep up

I also say healer as everytime im done stone vigil as a healer I have done the cannons. Plus if you want the fight to finish faster, all dps 100% focus on boss.

In Stone Vigil regular, the healer tends to man cannons between HoTs/DoTs. If there's someone with even less opportunity cost, though, such as a Summoner, then they should do it between their DoTs. As there was only a MCH available among ranged, you were the best candidate. That said, should party health start plummeting for any reason, the MCH should have swapped off to tend to the cannons.

In Stone Vigil regular, with the tortoise boss, all should be on cannons all the time. You can HoT before the tortoise lands, but after that you should be able to finish the fight without a single heal.

Back at 2.0, when gear didnt sync up, and most people were undergeared, I wasnt able to do it as a healer, and it was commonly the ranged DPS job. (even had melee do it, when we lacked range)

But in 2.1 (i think it was 2.1) updates, and people being geared up, it was plenty easy to do it as a healer, and I never questioned it since.

But its possible to encounter a tank who's squishy still

Why not both?

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Why not both?

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At the same time? or only when the other isnt able to?

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Why not both?

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That would also be fine in normal as long as you bait each tornado away from the cannons. Having two people on the cannons at all times generally makes it trickier to use them (due to failure to bait and thereby blocking cannons with—might be showing by age here—rather painful DoT-afflicting ground effects) than a single cannonier. Ideally, if the mobility is there, it should be used, because there's no opportunity cost anyways (apart from one person's cast-time on the cannon).

Had to do Stone Vigil last time. As a healer it's hard to manage the cannons, if the tank is to far away and then one of the two tornados get stucked at the cannon I have to manage while the dragon also constantly interrupt me and damage the whole party or at least 2 of the DD. If shit goes this way then you should switch with one DD and do less damage at the boss (as a healer you can also do damage, it's just lesser and the fight will take a bit longer).

Under perfect circumstances let the healer handle the cannons :) but shit happens often.

Ideally the healer will do it. With a smart party the tank will never be out of range even if the healer is standing at the cannons.
Sometimes you get a tank that's a ding-dong and they try to tank the boss right in the doorway between the 2 braziers, and that can cause lots of problems. The bosses whirlwinds target players and then travel in a straight line until it his a wall, and tanking in the doorway tends to put the party between the boss and the cannons, so whirlwinds go that way. Especially melees with rear positionals.
As a healer you can stand to the sides of the cannons to safely bait whirlwinds, and easily sprint when needed to fire a cannon. Although upcoming changes to Sprint in 4.0 put it on a 60 second cooldown, so there's that to think about T.T