The end of 1.0

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05-23-2017, 01:06 PM
radhaz

The end of 1.0

I think this release is the end of the 1.0 version. The team is finally free to leave that system and story behind.
05-23-2017, 01:10 PM
EdwinLi

I would not say leaving the story behind because we are still in the shadows of 1.0 story involving the Ascians and Garlean Empire.
05-23-2017, 01:46 PM
Lambdafish

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

I would not say leaving the story behind because we are still in the shadows of 1.0 story involving the Ascians and Garlean Empire.

The ascians didn't play a huge role in 1.0, 99.9% of the ascian plot is original
05-23-2017, 01:48 PM
Moonlite

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Originally Posted by radhaz

I think this release is the end of the 1.0 version. The team is finally free to leave that system and story behind.

Retainers, backward storage and market board system want to talk to you.
05-23-2017, 01:57 PM
ErryK

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Originally Posted by Moonlite

Retainers, backward storage and market board system want to talk to you.

Also classes still being a thing.
05-23-2017, 02:02 PM
Moonlite

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Originally Posted by ErryK

Also classes still being a thing.

Yeah it seems 1.0 will haunt this game for another 2 years at least. Not to mention all the stuff in the background we don't even see.
05-23-2017, 02:06 PM
Ama_Hamada

1.0 will still haunt the combine of SMN and SCH (they did not show the splitting) retainers ( our retainer system is PURELY because of 1.0) and because of 1.0 retainers, it runs into inventory management problems. They really need to overhaul this, maybe 5.0 once they discover it can no longer work, and bad/laggy coding of response of input.

sure there is more,, can't think atm.

Oh yeah classes though that is a sub issue of the SMN and SCH thing. Once they split the jobs, then the classes is simply a remembrance of 1.0

The market board itself is not a 1.0 thing, but how they interact with retainers is.
05-23-2017, 02:08 PM
silentwindfr

the 1.0 is still the base of this game, whatever you think people, the race, the world, the different faction present or the story was already present to a certain degree in the 1.0.
it's like say to people to scrap wow vanilla with the last expansion, when it's still part of the world you explore, event with the change of the area it's still the same world...

plus just like this, 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 will always be there in some way... we only get an upgrade of the game called FF14 into a 4.0...

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

1.0 will still haunt the combine of SMN and SCH (they did not show the splitting) retainers ( our retainer system is PURELY because of 1.0) sure there is more,, can't think atm.

Oh yeah classes though that is a sub issue of the SMN and SCH thing. Once they split the jobs, then the classes is simply a remembrance of 1.0

The market board itself is not a 1.0 thing, but how they interact with retainers is.

smn/sch thingy is from the 2.0 not the 1.0.
you have the linkshell, the grand company, leave, craft system...
05-23-2017, 02:17 PM
Ama_Hamada

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

the 1.0 is still the base of this game, whatever you think people, the race, the world, the different faction present or the story was already present to a certain degree in the 1.0.
it's like say to people to scrap wow vanilla with the last expansion, when it's still part of the world you explore, event with the change of the area it's still the same world...plus just like this, 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 will always be there in some way... we only get an upgrade of the game called FF14 into a 4.0...

smn/sch thingy is from the 2.0 not the 1.0.
you have the linkshell, the grand company, leave, craft system...

No it isn't because how classes work, they may of released that for 2.0 but still heavly tied on 1.0 ideas. the reason for the classes was to make your own job basically and try transfer that idea into SMN and SCH. SMN and SCH is more of based of a 1.0 problem, not 2.0 (where they should abolish the cross classing to begin with, the SB updates we are getting could been done in 2.0 but it was rushed i'd assume)

You have more ls then you can hold in 1.0 , or at least early 1.0, I am not sure abut grand company, I do not think that existed in 1.0 ever. For example, uldah, the grand company placement would interfere with the market wards, that section did not exist, or at least did not in early 1.0. The craft system is nothing like 1.0. The only problem you can maybe blame on the 1.0 system is rare chat box errors. (HUGE PROBLEM in early 1.0)
05-23-2017, 02:17 PM
Niqote

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Originally Posted by Moonlite

Retainers, backward storage and market board system want to talk to you.

Oh, I think it's been significantly improved since 1.0, after all, you no longer need to hunt for your possible purchases.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FkHOI9HvTW...1290280554.jpg
05-23-2017, 02:26 PM
Brannigan

There's nothing wrong with the 2.0 market board anyway.
05-23-2017, 03:08 PM
silentwindfr

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

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simply no the core idea behind the class system (before the add of the jobs system in the 1.23) was to create your own experience, with cross skill and cross trait, as yoshida have retake the game they have decide to add emblematic jobs for make it more FF like... SCH/SMN is like this not because of the V1 it's actually an idea they have wanted to try for the V2 different jobs coming from a single class. idea that they have abandoned thanks to the sch/smn trouble.

the grand company was in the V1 since i'm a twin adder since the V1. i did start in gridania as monk (yes at this time it was possible to be of different class than the town they are coming from... silly no?)

ps: here a small gift:
http://zantetsuken.net/wp-content/up...om-artwork.png

http://zantetsuken.net/wp-content/up...rs-artwork.png

http://zantetsuken.net/wp-content/up...es-artwork.png

directly coming from the V1....*sighs with nostalgia*
05-23-2017, 03:10 PM
Felis

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Originally Posted by Moonlite

Retainers, backward storage and market board system want to talk to you.

market board is original ARR
We had market wards in 1.0
05-23-2017, 03:11 PM
silentwindfr

ahh i just did find back a proof that the grand company was here in the V1

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...1347732639.jpg

in memory of all soldier that have fallen that sinister day *nods nods*
05-23-2017, 03:50 PM
Ama_Hamada

Not talking about the GC in concept, I am talking about actually joining a GC and having the place there. I know for a fact it did not exist in early 1.0. The uldah place was not even on the map early 1.0 because that is where the market ward was.

I have the point of view the SMN/SCH thing was made because they did not want to fix the cross class system that did not fit in 2.0 anyway. I have the view if they treated 2.0 like they should of how we are getting SB now, SMN and SCH would not have this weird thing going, so i call it a 1.0 problem.
05-23-2017, 04:13 PM
Beatrice

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

Not talking about the GC in concept, I am talking about actually joining a GC and having the place there. I know for a fact it did not exist in early 1.0. The uldah place was not even on the map early 1.0 because that is where the market ward was.

I have the point of view the SMN/SCH thing was made because they did not want to fix the cross class system that did not fit in 2.0 anyway. I have the view if they treated 2.0 like they should of how we are getting SB now, SMN and SCH would not have this weird thing going, so i call it a 1.0 problem.

I played 1.0 and you could join the Grand Companies. I was originally part of the Immortal Flames in 1.0 and I remember doing Grand Companies Leves as CNJ out in Thanalan.
05-23-2017, 04:19 PM
Ama_Hamada

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Originally Posted by Beatrice

I played 1.0 and you could join the Grand Companies. I was originally part of the Immortal Flames in 1.0 and I remember doing Grand Companies Leves as CNJ out in Thanalan.

was uldah in a different place? are you talking 1.x??? or 1.0 (as in start in the game)? I did not play past getting chobobos
05-23-2017, 09:17 PM
Moonlite

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Originally Posted by Felis

market board is original ARR
We had market wards in 1.0

Step back and think about how retainers and the board works. Retainers still sell like they did in 1.0 in a way. They carry the sales, they remove the items for sale when you interact with them. The sales are still listed per retainer. All we got was an interface to remove the looking. The interface is a billion times better. But we are still using remnants of the original system. You just don't get the visual interaction you had before.
05-23-2017, 09:26 PM
SpookyGhost

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

The ascians didn't play a huge role in 1.0, 99.9% of the ascian plot is original

Ironically the Ascians are the worst part of XIV's story.
05-23-2017, 10:00 PM
bass9020

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

was uldah in a different place? are you talking 1.x??? or 1.0 (as in start in the game)? I did not play past getting chobobos

They started the original quest lines for the GC in patch 1.18 I think it was? All the GC halls were in the market wards in a instance type zone and were not on the actual map. But yes, they weren't part of the original 1.0 series not until Yoshi anyway.
05-23-2017, 10:05 PM
MistyMew

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Originally Posted by Niqote

Oh, I think it's been significantly improved since 1.0, after all, you no longer need to hunt for your possible purchases.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FkHOI9HvTW...1290280554.jpg

Had an uncontrollable eye twitch when I seen the screenshot flashback lol
05-23-2017, 10:08 PM
ReplicaX

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

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Why make statements like this when you clearly know very little about 1.0 and all the system changes throughout its era.
05-24-2017, 12:47 AM
Hamada

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Originally Posted by bass9020

They started the original quest lines for the GC in patch 1.18 I think it was? All the GC halls were in the market wards in a instance type zone and were not on the actual map. But yes, they weren't part of the original 1.0 series not until Yoshi anyway.

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Originally Posted by ReplicaX

Why make statements like this when you clearly know very little about 1.0 and all the system changes throughout its era.

Well I did say 1.0 not 1.18 =/ I do not see how having GC or not would fall under if it ends 1.0 stuff completely, in my view I would only say "The end of 1.0" if it meant getting rid of all the problems we had from there, and clearly the retainer system is a big one where that is not the case currently.

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Originally Posted by Moonlite

Step back and think about how retainers and the board works. Retainers still sell like they did in 1.0 in a way. They carry the sales, they remove the items for sale when you interact with them. The sales are still listed per retainer. All we got was an interface to remove the looking. The interface is a billion times better. But we are still using remnants of the original system. You just don't get the visual interaction you had before.

That is why I said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

1.0 will still haunt the combine of SMN and SCH (they did not show the splitting) retainers ( our retainer system is PURELY because of 1.0) and because of 1.0 retainers, it runs into inventory management problems. They really need to overhaul this, maybe 5.0 once they discover it can no longer work, and bad/laggy coding of response of input.

sure there is more,, can't think atm.

Oh yeah classes though that is a sub issue of the SMN and SCH thing. Once they split the jobs, then the classes is simply a remembrance of 1.0

The market board itself is not a 1.0 thing, but how they interact with retainers is.
05-24-2017, 02:15 AM
Felis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonlite

Step back and think about how retainers and the board works. Retainers still sell like they did in 1.0 in a way. They carry the sales, they remove the items for sale when you interact with them. The sales are still listed per retainer. All we got was an interface to remove the looking. The interface is a billion times better. But we are still using remnants of the original system. You just don't get the visual interaction you had before.

What you mean are the retainer bells for sells.
The 1.0 market wards, where you went for a many hour long shopping tour, got replaced with the 2.0 market board