question about reddit ffxiv state of game

I want know how relyable is the sub commenity of reddit on state of ffxiv

state of game. i heard alot weird rumor coming coming for that reddit i first want know if any them are true or should the be ingore. there claim that ffxiv drop down 300k players which seem not as value as most claims

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Originally Posted by Savagelf

I want know how relyable is the sub commenity of reddit on state of ffxiv

state of game. i heard alot weird rumor coming coming for that reddit i first want know if any them are true or should the be ingore. there claim that ffxiv drop down 300k players which seem not as value as most claims

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Short answer: It's Reddit, you take that with a shaker of salt, not a grain.

Longer answer: XIV has dropped a number of subs lately, that much is true; however, this is mostly due to the fact that we're in a content lull while waiting for an expansion. I would expect on the next couple weeks to see an up-tick in numbers as people come back to prep for it and likely by the 9th numbers will be up again. Reddit has a tendency to take any normal downward shift and turn it into, "The game is dying!!"

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Originally Posted by Savagelf

I want know how relyable is the sub commenity of reddit on state of ffxiv

state of game. i heard alot weird rumor coming coming for that reddit i first want know if any them are true or should the be ingore. there claim that ffxiv drop down 300k players which seem not as value as most claims

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It's as reliable as this forum or any other media/networking outlet aka facebook, twitter, youtube etc. IF it's not posted/confirmed/announced by an SE official staff/Forum staff etc, you shouldn't take it serious, since it won't be a set in stone kinda thing. Any information posted by others are always subject to be changed or/and hearsay, misinterpretations, non official statements and should always be interpreted that way.

thanks you both

reddit is like doomsayer of internet i see

sorry i post that twice

Lol Reddit.

If I listened to Reddit now, I'd never play FFXIV, but I came here when ARR came out so everyone was raving about it on Reddit back then. FFXIV doesn't have a massive playerbase, that much is true, but what we have is active and you shouldn't have a problem doing any content. This is why syncing is a beautiful thing.

Rift and Wildstar on the other hand are most definitely dead.

50. Subscriptions dropping as flies. Despite even the less frequented servers started to have login queue times, and the recent SE's statement about maybe add one or two new servers in EU datacenters to help the situation, numerous reports from unknown sources are stating a severe drop in subscriptions, causing SE to take the servers offline because the game will be no longer profitable.

Adds to this thread.

oneofmanydeathsofxiv tag confirmed.

Hey man... Persona 5 is a really freaking long game. We'll be back once the harem is complete.

It's worth mentioning that FFXIV broke its record for all time peak and average players on Steamcharts in February (Well, in January and then once again in Feb). It's not quite as high right now but it's still doing very well there. Granted, it's only one section of the playerbase but unless anyone else has actual data instead of speculation...

http://i.imgur.com/AUFvQpw.png

I would expect another surge with stormblood. And then probably some dropoff but overall still very strong and steady. SE doesn't release numbers related to active subs so we won't have a complete picture, but I don't see any need for doom and gloom.

Wow what's with the reddit hate on here? I honestly find reddit better than the official forums. Just don't take everything on reddit as fact the same way you would on the official forums if someone made a thread saying something that isn't confirmed.

Also I will be honest with you the sub numbers are not as high as you think. I would say its in the 400k-500k range and that's being generous. It will increase with the expansion but drop again quite quickly. It's not really being doomsayers but looking at the game realistically based on some data people have gathered. The data isn't from SE so you can't say its official but its the closest thing to active players of some form pulling data from the lodestone.

If you don't see a source on the post then don't believe it straight away. Most of the time people would put a source with it to prove what they say.

Also generally you get information faster due to people looking at the JP forums quite often ;D

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Originally Posted by Remus

Wow what's with the reddit hate on here? I honestly find reddit better than the official forums. Just don't take everything on reddit as fact the same way you would on the official forums if someone made a thread saying something that isn't confirmed.

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...The FFXIV subreddit has plenty of its own issues, some which are reddit-as-a-whole, some which are specific to that particular community...

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Originally Posted by Remus

Wow what's with the reddit hate on here? I honestly find reddit better than the official forums.

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Gimme a brocheck.

Reddit is like every communication platform, everyone can put his mind on it. You will find salty people but also great and invest people on the community.
Most of them are just players that enjoy the game like you and me...

They are no different than this forum IMO. Wait until after stormblood launches and you will see the game isdying because there are no healers or tanks, WHM and PLD are still dead, and thanks for killing monk SE posted all over this forum too. I've found some great information on Reddit too in regard to gameplay. It is another source of information both positive and negative.

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Originally Posted by Remus

Wow what's with the reddit hate on here? I honestly find reddit better than the official forums. Just don't take everything on reddit as fact the same way you would on the official forums if someone made a thread saying something that isn't confirmed.

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Thank you. I was thinking the same thing.

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Originally Posted by RukiaFae

They are no different than this forum IMO.

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One big difference is this forum can be used only by people that have subbed the game.

my concern with reddit isn't hatred is who has truth about what going on in ffxiv and on in dev team i heard thing like yoshi p make his devs team anger about his hyper around red mage. see i not sure this relyable informations

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

One big difference is this forum can be used only by people that have subbed the game.

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Doesn't make it any better.

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Originally Posted by Savagelf

my concern with reddit isn't hatred is who has truth about what going on in ffxiv and on in dev team i heard thing like yoshi p make his devs team anger about his hyper around red mage. see i not sure this relyable informations

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Like I said don't take posts like that seriously. Most of the time things like that get downvoted if it's not true. Most people will give sources for their claims. If the haven't provided a source don't believe it. When using Reddit just don't think everything on there is true same way you would on the official forums. You just need a certain mentality when you go on reddit and not take everything face value.

Lot's of people have different opinions on reddit and that's why I like it because people can criticise the game without needing to worry looking over their back of being banned from the forums. May not be the best criticism and those are the ones you ignore because it's silly.

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

One big difference is this forum can be used only by people that have subbed the game.

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Ok so if you were on this forum for the last few days and believed everything you read, would you get a good impression of the game? You would think most of the people subbed to this game are trolls, who hates man cats lol.

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Originally Posted by RukiaFae

Ok so if you were on this forum for the last few days and believed everything you read, would you get a good impression of the game? You would think most of the people subbed to this game are trolls, who hates man cats lol.

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Yeah but that's not relevant to actual gameplay or how healthy our endgame population is. That's just banter.

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Originally Posted by Remus

Wow what's with the reddit hate on here?

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Mostly I was just being silly, but... You know... Easy target is easy.

Most internet forums you need a good dose of skepticism, especially when people start throwing numbers and emulating Chicken Little, even these forums. It's just that Reddit is particularly known (stereotypical as it may be) for calling most any drop in sub numbers the "downfall of the game as a whole."

Moral of the story, "Welcome to the Internet and be mindful of which cake you decide to eat lest you choose the wrong one."

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Originally Posted by Remus

Wow what's with the reddit hate on here? I honestly find reddit better than the official forums. Just don't take everything on reddit as fact the same way you would on the official forums if someone made a thread saying something that isn't confirmed.

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When I had to deal with SE support over my double charge issue, a vast majority of the Reddit community said it was my fault for the double charge, yes my fault for a system error on either Mogstation or my bank. The Reddit community went as far to say that I wouldn't likely get my account back for asking for a reversal, and that I was a horrible customer to do that to SEs bottom line. I proved the Reddit community wrong, I got my account back, and even just added a 4th retainer to my sub. I don't hate the Reddit community for their ignorance as that can't be helped, I dislike it for their belief that they're always correct and the blind white knighting of SE. Granted the official forum has white knights, nothing on here compared to idiocy I read that day on reddit.

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Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox

Granted the official forum has white knights, nothing on here compared to idiocy I read that day on reddit.

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That is why i refrain from posting there a lot. They abuse the down vote button and anyone who does not hive mind will get down voted into oblivion. Example, Someone posted that they weren't happy with some feature added, and contributed to the discussion nicely but got down voted lol.

While reddit does post nice info now and then, I still prefer to post here...at least you can't get hated on for having a different opinion ^^

Also I remember your post on there...felt bad for how they were attacking you :/ glad you got your account back ^^

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One big difference is this forum can be used only by people that have subbed the game.

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Ok so if you were on this forum for the last few days and believed everything you read, would you get a good impression of the game? You would think most of the people subbed to this game are trolls, who hates man cats lol.

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Didn't argue about quality of posts. Just answered to one, pointing a objective difference between forums. If the difference matters or not, not the point of my post.

Do not read me wrong, to me a good post is good wherever it is being posted.

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Originally Posted by Iromi

That is why i refrain from posting there a lot. They abuse the down vote button and anyone who does not hive mind will get down voted into oblivion. Example, Someone posted that they weren't happy with some feature added, and contributed to the discussion nicely but got down voted lol.

While reddit does post nice info now and then, I still prefer to post here...at least you can't get hated on for having a different opinion ^^

Also I remember your post on there...felt bad for how they were attacking you :/ glad you got your account back ^^

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Thank you that means a lot, once I was able to get ahold of someone reasonable at CS it made the situation a million times more easy, seems there was confusion on their part and my banks part. But it's over and here I am still playing and handing over more even money to SE lol.

Sub numbers are fine, even at this stage in the content cycle I still have queue onto Cerberus sometimes. I know it's not exactly a small server, but still, back in the 2.X cycle I never had to queue outside of patch weeks.
I'd personally be a bit surprised if we're not hovering somewhere around the half a million subs mark.

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Originally Posted by Iromi

That is why i refrain from posting there a lot. They abuse the down vote button and anyone who does not hive mind will get down voted into oblivion.

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They sure do, out of the subs I use they're by far the worst for it.

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Originally Posted by Doki

Hey man... Persona 5 is a really freaking long game. We'll be back once the harem is complete.

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That, my friend, is what your retainers, squadron members, and Alts are for. ;)

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

One big difference is this forum can be used only by people that have subbed the game.

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Which eliminates the majority of people who deliberately post crap, anger, hate and negativity towards the game, it's developers and players alike. I've been on several subReddits and found that at least a 10% of active posters are there solely to troll the group, or start drama, and don't in fact play, or like the game in question.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

They sure do, out of the subs I use they're by far the worst for it.

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...Yeah, that's kind of one of the things I noticed too. It's a problem with the whole site but really emphasized on the FFXIV unit. And, there have been slow times between patch cycles where very few new threads manage a score above 0 (bonus points if they then complain about the amount of fanart there)...

My opinion is that, there a lot more games now to be played than when Arr was launched.
Most of the ps4 users have a lot of exclusive games so i imagine many of them cancel their sub and will comeback with the new expansion.
I would imagine this will happen again when games like destiny 2 gets launched.
MMORPG games are prone to this.

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Originally Posted by Remus

Wow what's with the reddit hate on here?

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In 1996 I made a better looking website on Angelfire using a small guide out of a GamePro magazine for HTML and random images I found on the net.

If they could get a proper webdesigner for formatting, I may consider using it. But it looks like a convoluted bit of trash. This goes for all of Reddit, not just the FFXIV one.

Can't stand the upvote/downvote trends on r/ffxiv. Generic screenshot with /gpose run through a few elementary Photoshop filters to improve textures? 1k upvotes. Question or concern about PvP? Hovers on the fifth page around -15. Like healers who obsess over DPS or other forms of trash-talking "bads"? To the top you go! Make a post about features that you think another MMO (ESPECIALLY World of Warcraft) does better? Might as well make a new account to purge all that negative karma.

If I were willing to be a bit more duplicitous I could easily karma farm the crap out of that sub, they're that predictable. At least on this forum your stuff doesn't pretty much get deleted from general view just for being unpopular or controversial.

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Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox

When I had to deal with SE support over my double charge issue, a vast majority of the Reddit community said it was my fault for the double charge, yes my fault for a system error on either Mogstation or my bank. The Reddit community went as far to say that I wouldn't likely get my account back for asking for a reversal, and that I was a horrible customer to do that to SEs bottom line. I proved the Reddit community wrong, I got my account back, and even just added a 4th retainer to my sub. I don't hate the Reddit community for their ignorance as that can't be helped, I dislike it for their belief that they're always correct and the blind white knighting of SE. Granted the official forum has white knights, nothing on here compared to idiocy I read that day on reddit.

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I sympathise with your story. There are a lot of people which just say ignorant stuff. Particularly with situations like this where it has been an issue in several cases now. The community should be discussing SE's short fallings, particularly when they are very specifically SE's fault like in this case.

That said...

I have a pet peeve with people using the terms fanboy and White Knighting. I get the logic for it but much of the time its uses as a term to dismiss other people's opinions when they aren't negative towards some aspect of SEs work.

Any public forum is going to have its share of trolls, ignorant people, those with almost fanatical loyalty and people who just want to complain about everything. I wouldn't specifically say reddit is hugely worse than say this place but it has had its moments. On the flipside I saw a thread there once which was almost the exact opposite of what happened to you.