First Hræsvelgr and now Susano-O

Is this Final Fantasy 14 or Bravely Default?

And in DF, my Dark Knight is fighting with people not from my own world.

Unacceptable.

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Originally Posted by MisterLucie

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Bravely Default was created to be like the older FFs anyway(still haven't finished it, I prefer the vocation system in DQ7 to the FF class system). It is all Japanese stories influenced by Japanese folklore, Susano'o makes me think of Naruto Shippuden personally. There are so many Kaguya's in Japanese anime/stories it isn't funny, wouldn't be surprised to see the princess from the Moon make an appearance either.

FF games have always tapped into old mythology for names. Even someone minor enemies we fight have names which often reference mythology. Ethys Asher's lore tours are based around that and pointing out the references.

Its like the Frog skill we see NIN use in the Benchmark. People instantly think Naruto but those Naruto characters are copied from Japanese Folklore.

How far in BD do you fight Hræsvelgr? I'm at the water temple and getting my butt kicked.
Game makes me think this is what FFIII DS remake should have been.

Pretty sure the last original villain SE didn't scrape from world mythology was Kefka. Susano-o is old. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanoo-no-Mikoto

I'm only so consternated because Susano is being lauded as "An original primal just for FF14" when it's just fat Odin with a name lifted wholesale from Shintoism. I mean cool, fine, use mythos from wherever for inspiration, but don't give me that "Original character do not steal" junk when you made Fat Japanese Odin, dude.

My first exposure to a "Susano-o" was from Digimon Frontier. I think. Although even then I might've been dimly aware of it being a mythology thing.

I can only read that as Susan or Susannah. I'm not sure I want to fight a primal named Susan. It doesn't feel right.

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Originally Posted by Confidence_Trick

I can only read that as Susan or Susannah. I'm not sure I want to fight a primal named Susan. It doesn't feel right.

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Susano-O Calloway, The Lady of Answers

People tents to relate Susano to Naruto, Bravely Default and that. But Susanoo is a god in the Japanese mythology (God of storm and sea I think). He most know story was kill the Yamata-no-orochi (8 headed snake) with his sword Totsuka to save a young girl from being devoured by it. He find the Kusanagi blade inside that big monster.

I am more surprised they didn't add this summon before in Final Fantasy, as is one or the most iconic god on their mythology. Same for other lis Izanagi/Izanami, Amaterasu,Raiden or Tsukuyomi. For some reason Final Fantasy always get western culture gods more often.

I never played bravely default.

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Originally Posted by Vanitas

I never played bravely default.

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You really should. Bravely Default gets a bit tedious at one point of the story, but it's an awesome game.
Bravely Second is even better, imo.

Disappointed at no Okami talk in this thread

I wouldn't mind more Bravely Default stuff, it was a good game and the sequal too... Though the first games plot did take a rather stupid turn towards the end...

Bravely Default crossover plx

You make it seem like these names originally came from Bravely Default

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Originally Posted by Xlantaa

I am more surprised they didn't add this summon before in Final Fantasy, as is one or the most iconic god on their mythology. Same for other lis Izanagi/Izanami, Amaterasu,Raiden or Tsukuyomi. For some reason Final Fantasy always get western culture gods more often.

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From the start, Final Fantasy was intended to be an RPG rooted in Western culture. This was partly to do with the fact that the original game cribbed a LOT of material directly from Dungeons and Dragons, and also because then, as now, Western culture was considered to be pretty cool by the Japanese target audience. To the Japanese, they've been hearing stories about samurai, ninjas, Susano-o, Amaratsu, and so on practically from birth - but figures like Odin, King Arthur, paladins, and so on? This is all cool foreign stuff!

It's still a bit surprising that some of the primary Japanese gods have taken so long to be represented in game, but not totally inexplicable.

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Originally Posted by Yudzster

Susano-O Calloway, The Lady of Answers

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Susan's enrage would be her FABULOUS tuna casserole dumped all over the Warriors of Light a la Cuchilainn.

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Originally Posted by Xlantaa

Izanagi/Izanami

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What is this Persona 4? x3 (I kid, I only recently learned Izanagi's cultural relevance thanks to Persona 5 having a page on him)

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Originally Posted by Atlaworks

I'm only so consternated because Susano is being lauded as "An original primal just for FF14" when it's just fat Odin with a name lifted wholesale from Shintoism. I mean cool, fine, use mythos from wherever for inspiration, but don't give me that "Original character do not steal" junk when you made Fat Japanese Odin, dude.

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I thought the same thing about Ravana.

http://ffxiclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Hahava

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

Pretty sure the last original villain SE didn't scrape from world mythology was Kefka. Susano-o is old. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanoo-no-Mikoto

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Even Kefka can be said to be based on the writings of Franz Kafka.