It is 2017 but the realism in this game is still subpar

Look at all the AAA games out there. A lot of them are photorealistic and have great immersion.

Now, I love FF14 but sometimes I feel like I'm not actually the character in another world... but that I'm actually playing a game. Given this is a role-playing game more can and should be done to improve the situation.

1. Why don't characters sweat? A long hike on Sohm Al should make any person, even the Warrior of Light, sweat profusely.

2. Why do enemies respawn in dungeons and raids? Once you clear it they should be gone.

3. Why are Lalafell tanks a thing...? This completely ruins any immersion anyone may have.

4. Why is food not essential? Why is the Warrior of Light able to survive days without food?

The list goes on and on but suffice to say my immersion is broken at every turn in this game.

Edit: Someone suggested bills as a feature. I agree. You should pay tax to the Sultana every month based on your income. So if you make 20m gil this month you need to pay 2m to the Sultana.

No video game goes by that many real life rules. They are still video games. Noone wants to get a game over because they didn't pay they light bill or forgot to eat breakfast. :/

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Originally Posted by Hikuras

No video game goes by that many real life rules. They are still video games. Noone wants to get a game over because they didn't pay they light bill or forgot to eat breakfast. :/

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Ok but can we agree Lalafell tanks don't make sense

If you want bodily fluids and viscera, there are plenty of action RPGs out there for you. This is a final Fantasy game, and you're just going to have to deal with it as is, because that's how Final Fantasy is.

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Originally Posted by Skyrior

Ok but can we agree Lalafell tanks don't make sense

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No, but I think we might now be able to agree that this topic adds nothing to the forum and is simply a troll.

Solution: Eat the Lalafel tanks at the start of the dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Hikuras

No video game goes by that many real life rules. They are still video games. Noone wants to get a game over because they didn't pay they light bill or forgot to eat breakfast. :/

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No a lot of people mod the heck out of Skyrim and Fallout just for that thing exactly but that's really not the same demographic as FF XIV.

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Originally Posted by Texa

No a lot of people mod the heck out of Skyrim and Fallout just for that thing exactly but that's really not the same demographic as FF XIV.

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They mod that game to pay bills? o.O WHY? I pay bills in real life.. let me spin dash robots and throw hadokens without worrying about sonic needing to pay his gotta go fast bill this month. D: - I hope that comes across as a joke.. cause it is.-

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Originally Posted by Hikuras

They mod that game to pay bills? o.O WHY? I pay bills in real life.. let me spin dash robots and throw hadokens without worrying about sonic needing to pay his gotta go fast bill this month. D: - I hope that comes across as a joke.. cause it is.-

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You pay bills in games like Sims 3 and 4. So is it too much to ask SE to implement a bill feature? If you have a house you have to pay bills.

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Originally Posted by Skyrior

You pay bills in games like Sims 3 and 4. So is it too much to ask SE to implement a bill feature? If you have a house you have to pay bills.

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The sub is your bill.

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Originally Posted by Skyrior

1. Why don't characters sweat? A long hike on Sohm Al should make any person, even the Warrior of Light, sweat profusely.

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Very powerful deodorant.

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2. Why do enemies respawn in dungeons and raids? Once you clear it they should be gone.

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They got back up.

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3. Why are Lalafell tanks a thing...? This completely ruins any immersion anyone may have.

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They hit things very hard.

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4. Why is food not essential? Why is the Warrior of Light able to survive days without food?

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Did you miss the part where the WoL stuffed their face with crystals in that one cutscene? You know, the one? That was all the sustenance they'll ever need.

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Originally Posted by Skyrior

You pay bills in games like Sims 3 and 4. So is it too much to ask SE to implement a bill feature? If you have a house you have to pay bills.

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you monster lol. You know how many heroes will lose cause they don't have housing? when's the last time you saw Ryu or Sonic in a house they could own? You just doomed video game land. T.T

ie requests for meaningless things.

Who cares about these things. Are they fun?

Come on. Real Life itself is the worse MMO in existence! If you want realism... then well stop playing games that are meant to take you from it.

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Originally Posted by Hikuras

you monster lol. You know how many heroes will lose cause they don't have housing? when's the last time you saw Ryu or Sonic in a house they could own? You just doomed video game land. T.T

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Isn't Ryu like canon a hobo anyways? He looks like a hobo that might just crash on friend's couches when the weather is bad and eat all of Ken's cheese-nips or something.

You're trolling you're done good if you're serious wow show me one game in which characters sweat and other such things as in your post. Granted I haven't played many but is there a game which character sweat and do all that stuff mentioned.

I realize in Sims you do pay bills but seriously come on.

Personally I can do without pit stains in my video games, but to each their own.

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Originally Posted by Krokov

You're trolling you're done good if you're serious wow show me one game in which characters sweat and other such things as in your post. Granted I haven't played many but is there a game which character sweat and do all that stuff mentioned.

I realize in Sims you do pay bills but seriously come on.

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A ton of games have sweating. Games that SE published have characters sweating. The first one that comes to mind specifically was Rise of the Tomb Raider. Final Fantasy specifically doesn't really do body fluids except tears and the occasional little trickle of blood to keep that T rating.

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Originally Posted by Krokov

You're trolling you're done good if you're serious wow show me one game in which characters sweat and other such things as in your post. Granted I haven't played many but is there a game which character sweat and do all that stuff mentioned.

I realize in Sims you do pay bills but seriously come on.

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Do you even need to ask? There are a LOT of sweat mods in Skyrim

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Originally Posted by Skyrior

Why is food not essential? Why is the Warrior of Light able to survive days without food?

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Because they have one hell of a metabolism, don't you know? Every single video-game protagonist must meet this requirement. It's why they're the main character.

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Why do enemies respawn in dungeons and raids? Once you clear it they should be gone.

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If you're gonna ask this question, you're gonna have to answer this question first: Why are you back in that dungeon, when the original reason/problem that drew you there in the first place has been solved?

That's right, you're repeating the same events as before, and that to me, is breaking my immersion! Monster.

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Why are Lalafell tanks a thing...? This completely ruins any immersion anyone may have.

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Although this I agree with, down with popoto's!

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Originally Posted by Skyrior

Look at all the AAA games out there. A lot of them are photorealistic and have great immersion.

Now, I love FF14 but sometimes I feel like I'm not actually the character in another world... but that I'm actually playing a game. Given this is a role-playing game more can and should be done to improve the situation.

1. Why don't characters sweat? A long hike on Sohm Al should make any person, even the Warrior of Light, sweat profusely.

2. Why do enemies respawn in dungeons and raids? Once you clear it they should be gone.

3. Why are Lalafell tanks a thing...? This completely ruins any immersion anyone may have.

4. Why is food not essential? Why is the Warrior of Light able to survive days without food?

The list goes on and on but suffice to say my immersion is broken at every turn in this game.

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Originally Posted by Skyrior

Look at all the AAA games out there. A lot of them are photorealistic and have great immersion.

Now, I love FF14 but sometimes I feel like I'm not actually the character in another world... but that I'm actually playing a game. Given this is a role-playing game more can and should be done to improve the situation.

1. Why don't characters sweat? A long hike on Sohm Al should make any person, even the Warrior of Light, sweat profusely.

2. Why do enemies respawn in dungeons and raids? Once you clear it they should be gone.

3. Why are Lalafell tanks a thing...? This completely ruins any immersion anyone may have.

4. Why is food not essential? Why is the Warrior of Light able to survive days without food?

The list goes on and on but suffice to say my immersion is broken at every turn in this game.

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5- Since immersion is broken everywhere for you, why continue playing this game? Why not return to the "realism" of your AAA games and we--the many who have much lower threshold for immersion-will continue playing it.

Mods but not a part of the actual game itself

Better question though why does it bother you so why does this affect your enjoyment and immersion of the game these little annoyance as I guess you could call them

well, ffxiv doesnt really make sense in most things...its an unpredictable pattern.


They sometimes DO randomly add some realism to spoil the fun:

Remember Fish tanks? I have to choose between sea water and fresh water? SRSLY?! Just let me combine whichever fish I like!


but then on the other hand....... desynthesizing fish will give you bikinis.
Because duh, obviously!

Have you been watching too much Sword Art Online?

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Originally Posted by Skyrior

You pay bills in games like Sims 3 and 4. So is it too much to ask SE to implement a bill feature? If you have a house you have to pay bills.

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The Warrior of Light saves the entire realm from disaster twice a week, in between running errands for any Tom, Dick or Harry who asks and bringing peace to centuries-old conflicts...I doubt anyone had the nerve to ask him to pay taxes or his water bill or anything so petty. You don't want the only god-slayer in town too distracted by trying to make ends meet to do his job.

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Originally Posted by Krokov

Better question though why does it bother you so why does this affect your enjoyment and immersion of the game these little annoyance as I guess you could call them

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This is a troll thread, I don't believe he's being serious. He did made another topic earlier about how ugly Elezens are.

Entertaining the notion this isn't a troll thread, you might be able to expect stuff like that from a PC exclusive game with an enormous budget, but it's not. The amount of detail and realism they can put into it is very finite.

Why aren't there any bathrooms in Eorzea?

Yall can miss me with the sweat.

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4. Why is food not essential? Why is the Warrior of Light able to survive days without food?

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I have always dreamt of a mmo who would take into account all the realism about food.




After countless epic battles you and your group are at the final boss door.

You :
- Hum, guys ? I really have to take a crap right now. I really shouldn't have eaten 3 desserts at the inn.

The group :
- Wtf are you for real ?
- Talk about a mood killer.
- Man, please hurry, we have the world to save.

You :
- So errrrr i am gonna go to this room... Good thing we killed all the mobs in it.

A few minutes later :

You :
- Guuuuys ? I dont see anything in my inventory to wipe my a**, i forget to take the needed items back from my second retainer.

The group :
- OMG, please kick this guy !
- Well, i can give you some, but it is gonna cost you quite some gold XD

Meanwhile, in the boss room :

The boss :
- Wtf are the heroes doing ? My summoning of the ultimate huge apocalyptic meteor is now finished... Oh s**t, it looked like a good idea when i was only scheming it ! I dont want to diiiiiie !

The end of the world.




Next time we are gonna talk about the realism of being a single male adventurer, stuck hours long with cute females Miqo'tes in his group.

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This post reminds of me of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zViYpS3BIqY

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Originally Posted by Faliandra

but then on the other hand....... desynthesizing fish will give you bikinis.

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Isn't it normal to find bikinis in sharks?

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Originally Posted by Skyrior

Look at all the AAA games out there. A lot of them are photorealistic and have great immersion.

Now, I love FF14 but sometimes I feel like I'm not actually the character in another world... but that I'm actually playing a game. Given this is a role-playing game more can and should be done to improve the situation.

1. Why don't characters sweat? A long hike on Sohm Al should make any person, even the Warrior of Light, sweat profusely.

2. Why do enemies respawn in dungeons and raids? Once you clear it they should be gone.

3. Why are Lalafell tanks a thing...? This completely ruins any immersion anyone may have.

4. Why is food not essential? Why is the Warrior of Light able to survive days without food?

The list goes on and on but suffice to say my immersion is broken at every turn in this game.

Edit: Someone suggested bills as a feature. I agree. You should pay tax to the Sultana every month based on your income. So if you make 20m gil this month you need to pay 2m to the Sultana.

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Pretty sure this is a troll post, but just for fun I'm going to play along.

1. Meh, who cares? If I cared about sweat, I wouldn't be playing a game where I can summon a miniature bird monster.

2. If you pay attention to the lore of the game and some of the Minstrel/Anima/WT quests, they strongly hint that you never actually go back to these dungeons, you are simply remembering the battles, and you remember it a little different every time, hence the reason every run is different.

3. Because that would be pretty stupid. Honestly, I don't think a Hyur or Roe is going to take a punch from Titan or Alexander any better than a Lalafell, soooooo.

4. It is essential if you wanna git gud.

5. The Sims is literally titled as a simulator, worst possible reference. A better reference would be Fallout's hardcore(right?) mode, which requires food and water while still saving the world.

6. Bills suck and the fact you mentioned them is basically the defining factor that this is a troll thread.

TL;DR GG Troll.

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Isn't it normal to find bikinis in sharks?

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I know that whenever I use the power of my own will to magically decompose the 27 sharks that I had in my pockets I will manage to come home with a bikini or two.

If food becomes essential. I'm gonna eat a lot and see what happens. lol

To respond in a practical way to a likely troll post...
Point 1 the game would end service due to being unplayable on almost any system with modern high speed home internet. Maybe with a $3k+ PC and a T1 business line for just one internet connected device would this be possible in an MMO.
Point 2 the game would end service long before anyone hit level cap due to genocide of all enemies and people quit even faster than they quit FFXI in its early days at lvl ~13ish.
Point 3 like someone said... The enemies turn MRoe MAu'ra and MHHyur into bug like existences as it is also... Who better to tank rats squirrels ands ladybugs than someone who doesnt have to play dead just to get their shield in the right spot. Also this refutes dwarves in almost all their occurances in fantasy worlds.
Point 4 at some point youd realize that everyone lives on tap water raisins and hard boiled eggs and think... Thats nit a balanced diet for that rigorous a lifestyle and your immersion would die anyways.
Pseudo point 5ish having to repair your gear is a bill, paying for teleports is a bill, paying for transport paths is a bill, ranking up gcs is a bill... Tho i had rent in eq2 for housing but the auto demolish feature somewhat counters that need, as long as you can pay far in advance.

Tho i guess my rebuttals to point 3/4 were a bit of pure troll fodder tho...

To everyone saying the subscription is a bill.... No it is not an in-game bill. I want every player to pay taxes to the city state. And maybe we can set up welfare for sprouts so they get a generous 100k gil a week (paid for by the omnicrafters' tax of course).

I know many people don't agree with me but this idea not only makes the game more realistic it also helps sprouts buy glamour sooner.

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People who create bait threads like these should be banned from the game. Yes. No mercy.