No commendations

Am I the only one who's getting a little annoyed with getting little to no comms for dungeons and duties? I mean at least one comm or a thanks for the healing would be nice.

Are you only doing the bare minimum as a healer, just healing? Most people will give the healer comms if they are stance dancing and have very good dps while keeping everyone alive. I main DRK, if the healer does this, they get the comm. Else the comm goes to the dps that did the best. If the healer and dps were bad, I just leave without giving a comm. Plus if you are doing this and aren't giving comms, remember comms aren't a guarantee, players give them to anyone for varying reasons.

I mean, I comm when someone plays well. How good are you? :P

If you're not getting many commendations, and it's a consistent thing, you may want to look at whether your own dungeon performance is just the bare minimum. If all you're doing is standing there topping off the tank and very little else (occasional party heals for unavoidable party damage) then a lot of players don't comm for being mostly inactive during a run.

If you know that your performance was better than average, good, or great, then you've encountered a lot of jerks.

I run all three roles and it's very rare I don't get at least one comm a day unless the only thing I do is run content with my static. So people ARE comming.

No issues on Tonberry.

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Originally Posted by Carvaka

No issues on Tonberry.

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Instances aren't server based, they are data center based. When you are in an instance you can be queued with anyone from your data center, not just the server.

To answer the assumption that I'm doing the bare minimum I will say this. I am performing my role. I heal and dps. however when I continually get tanks who can't hold aggro or use cool-downs its a little difficult to do two jobs at once. I get comms I'm saying that people are increasingly just leaving the instance without so much as a tyfp.

Secondly I almost never go without leaving a comm. I've always felt that is was polite but I guess that was a misunderstanding on my part as well

not a big deal if people just want to leave fast without comming anybody. you'll probably get some commy groups eventually if you play a high volume of duties. sometimes I think people just forget to comm unless you do something memorable like say something funny or nice to them, or do cute emotes ;p

I don't give out comms just for players showing up to content. I give comms to those that impress me with keeping the run going smooth and fast. I generally heal content and in 4 man it generally goes to the tank cause the dps df gives me rarely does anything above the bare minimum. In 8 person raid finder it is more often I find a dps or healer that stands out. Either way to get a comm, you have to go above and beyond average. In playing I get equal comms between my healers and my blm. I do tank on drk but that is a work in progress and I rarely get comms there. I sit somewhere around mid 4000 comms. I would also wonder since you ask for a thanks, do you talk in content? I say hi at the start of almost every run and thanks at the end all runs regardless of how the run went. I also take time to explain mechs to new players where helpful.

Whilst I'd be lying if I said the raw DPS numbers were anything other than unexceptional, it's been a while since I've done a roulette where I'd genuinely call it a train wreck. The last three experts I logged all have me at an 80% or higher cleric stance uptime across the entire run, so pretty clean sailing really.

Commendations are coming if a little slowly, I usually get 1 or more per expert for the most part.

Maybe it's your attitude? What are you like in duties?

Comms are fickle, really. Sometimes when I'm preoccupied and I do the absolute bare minimum, i.e. not talk, just throw up regens and stand around, I'll walk out with three comms. Others, I'll heal and DPS my butt off and walk out with one or zero. There are times I'll get into arguments with the whole group and weirdly get a bunch, and then another time I'll get on really well with some players and get none at all. There's no point in getting annoyed or questioning it, people comm/ don't comm for a variety of reasons. I've even heard some people comm based on what glamours they like.

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Originally Posted by Lunaxia

Maybe it's your attitude? What are you like in duties?

Comms are fickle, really. Sometimes when I'm preoccupied and I do the absolute bare minimum, i.e. not talk, just throw up regens and stand around, I'll walk out with three comms. Others, I'll heal and DPS my butt off and walk out with one or zero. There are times I'll get into arguments with the whole group and weirdly get a bunch, and then another time I'll get on really well with some players and get none at all. There's no point in getting annoyed or questioning it, people comm/ don't comm for a variety of reasons. I've even heard some people comm based on what glamours they like.

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I typically stay really positive with my groups. I don't really have time to talk because like I mentioned earlier I always get groups that are near death within five seconds. but I do leave a positive "well done guys" at the end.

I get a metric butt-ton saving bad parties on my AST in Dun Scaith and healing in Frontlines. For the most part I don't think expert roulette really tests anyone's ability to any sort of extreme, so I wouldn't be surprised that people aren't comming there.

I have over 4100 commendations and I usually either heal or tank, and I've long settled to the "don't care" anymore attitude.


You do a lot of DPS, maybe enough to surpass two DPS that aren't pulling their weight, however you won't get one because you probably "scared" the tank or the party HP by healing the bare minimum at-times, maybe even forcing them to actually their jobs better like using cooldowns. Like taking advantage of being able to use WHM Benediction while doing serious damage. The good players and raiders you run into will always thumbs-up this attitude though, they know what's going on. The bad players have no clue.

Clutch saves usually have your name attached to it, hard to miss.

Although standing around and being a heal "bot" you always likely to end up on the negative end.

In PvP, its also about being effective at using all your skills. Are you sleeping players? Using your PvP cool downs to annoy the opposition along with keeping your alliance alive?

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Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow

Am I the only one who's getting a little annoyed with getting little to no comms for dungeons and duties? I mean at least one comm or a thanks for the healing would be nice.

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Nope. I've had situations where, considering all the trouble I went through to keep everyone healed up when things turn to s***, I don't get a single one. :mad: But on the other hand, I've done runs where it's all just routine, nothing out of the ordinary, and I get comms from everyone. :eek: So it all balances out in the end.

Often times with my raising mid-fight/high DPS and explaining the mechanics (then people die over and over) I carry lots of groups...sorry if it sounds arrogant, its not meant to..but yeah I never get any comms. I just do it because I want to finish the duty and help others.

That being said, I always make sure to comm one DPS. We never get any love.

This day i see less people giving com especially if you are doing DF such as levelling or level 50 DF, those people are probably doing their daily quota and their anima quest which can get very boring and tedious so they just "hit and run" through it (dungeon finished, mash leave button in 0.1 second not even a "thankyou")

Level 60 DF, raid, or anything that close to end game dungeon is probably what you should aiming at if you want to get com, also a little friendly like saying hello or small talk can help too

And it could be your end too, try to wait or be the last person to leave, maybe they want to give you com but you already bail =P

If you're having problems getting commendations as a healer you might need to look at your rotation a bit... cleric stance, how often non-tank chars' HP goes below 90%, how often tank chars' HP goes below 30% for more than one GCD, etc. Normally healer is the second easiest role to get comms from behind tanks.

In most of the content finder groups I've been in, healers are relatively bad, ranging from non-use of Regen-type skills, leaving damaging conditions on forever, casting heals in Cleric Stance and casting sleep on mobs inside a persistent fire/doton field. White mages sometimes completely run out of MP for no reason. Special shoutout goes to healers who request tanks use Shield Oath when they had no issues with damage or aggro in Sword Oath.

• Tanks usually get my commendation if they complete a run without getting lost halfway, pull groups of a sufficient size to reduce their HP to 60% or below, don't delay before pulls for no reason and use defensive cooldowns.
• Healers usually get my commendation if they AoE when AoE is required, DPS when DPS is required, maintain Regen, clear damaging conditions and maintain tank HP well. In particular, if nobody else deserves a commendation, the healer gets it.
• DPS are mechanic specific. Ninjas who use Doton, Fuuton and DoT properly get it. Bards who maintain twin DoT get it. Monks who actually move between flank and rear get it. Lancers who interrupt attacks correctly (and don't force bosses into stun resistance for no stupid reason) get it, particularly if single targets die fast in clearly large HP decrements. Black mages who know how to AoE properly and maintain some thunder stack on bosses get it. Summoners who leave uptime of 3 DoTs on more than half the mobs half the time get it.
  And if everyone disappears quickly after the dungeon, whoever is left gets it unless they stood inside an obvious AoE and died.

Even so, I usually end up giving commendations to the healer half the time.

I'll take a closer look at the dps's performance nowadays. Healers and Tanks got my commendations in 2.x, because to that time they actually had a harder time performing, especially when tortured with a new tank in STR gear that wouldn't pop any cool down what so ever.

With HW healers can pretty much go afk, and while their dps might be welcoming in some parties for me personally that doesn't deserve a commendation anymore, because we've done that in ARR already, as well as solo healed content some people now think is "skilled" or "outstanding", when it has been done in ilvl 90 gear and under already.

On the other side compared to ARR content dps has suffered a lot and it's more noticeable,it's like a win in the lottery if you find a dps in expert roulette or anywhere that can actually perform decently. But that's about it, maybe 1 person out of 10000 dungeons will have a outstanding performance but let's not fool ourselves because that's super rare. If I see a dps that at least accomplishes "decent" or close to that, he/she will get my commendation, if not I'll leave the run without giving any commendation to anybody.

I find getting comms easy, rarely ever not getting one.

Basically say hi, bye and don't let people die. Never failed me

Well as of late (especially Dun Scaith and Weeping City) healers always seem to die, or not even heal so not many comms being sent their way.
Comes down to performance, that is who gets my vote

In my experience, I seem to get more comms when I'm playing AST compared to BRD (since people tend to comm tanks or healers, and just ignore us DPS v.v). I usually don't care too much about commendations; the only time I get salty is when I am consistently having to raise party members (this is usually in my Dun Scaith runs), where I'm literally the only party member not dying, where I'm sharing Balances among DPS if I'm holding a Balance already, and don't draw a Spire/Ewer to spread it but instead a second Balance, and basically just being a god (no, I am not trying to sound or be arrogant here), and walk away with one or no comms. That's the only time I get mad about commendations, but usually that anger only lasts for about five minutes.

I comm for different reasons, and I tend to comm other DPS if I notice that they are doing more than just hitting 1-2-3.

If I see a BRD playing me Foe's while I'm DPSing on AST, they automatically get my comm. Same if I see them pop MP song for myself if I'm running low, or TP song for some of the TP-starved melee without anyone having to ask for MP/TP. Plus, I'm partial to BRD anyways since it's my main, and if I see a good BRD, they're more deserving of my comm than a tank or healer, who usually just get brownie points for showing up, imo.

If the DPS suck, I'll comm the tank if they did a decent job holding aggro, and if they knew what cooldowns were and how to properly use them. Bonus points if they're a DRK that consistently keep up BOTH Grit and Darkside during the majority of pulls.

If I'm running 8-man or 24-man content, and I have an amazing co-healer, I usually comm them, especially if they are another AST, and coordinate card usage and sects with me.

If the entire group was just subpar, I don't comm anyone. If I feel like throwing them a pity bone, I'll comm whoever died the least.

However, sometimes I comm people that others would think probably don't deserve comms. If I am running something with a sprout, and I can tell that they are trying really hard to do well, even if they die a lot or don't have the best DPS or rotation, I still comm them because at least they are trying. Bonus points if they're given advice from another party member, and take said advice to heart.

Sometimes I comm a person who I think is funny, or who makes the run less boring. Sometimes I comm someone if they use a funny macro. And sometimes I comm on things like character name or glamour.

Commendations are more or less subjective, so I don't hold them to much value usually. If your lack of comms seems to be a consistent and pervasive thing, however, I would take a few moments to look back on your individual performance in duties, and see if there is anything you think you can do to improve. Just keep in mind that there are those that just don't comm at all, or only comm 5 times a week to get the Challenge Log entry.

Side note for myself (and this goes for some people I know as well): I don't care how well a player is doing, or how god-like they are, the minute they post some "Thank you for the party! If you liked me, give me your commendation! I almost have XXXX comms!" macro, they automatically lose my comm. Commendation begging just annoys me more than someone outright sucking at their role.

I think healers get TONS of commendations - its DPS classes I feel bad for. Aside from seeing who's highest on the aggro table, their contribution is more subtle than constantly fluctuating health bars and flashy buffs/healer AoEs. I have a lot of comms, and I play 270/270 AST/SMN about equally. I'd say 80% or more are from healing (I swear I don't suck at SMN! XD). When I give out comms, I always try to consider the DPS first.

I typically get at least one per instance, so no issues on my end. However, it does irk me when I know I kicked ass and don't get anything while getting multiple comms when I derp like crazy.

I get 2 comms in expert dungeon all the time as bard.

I give comms to the players that left the best impression on me, I don't give one to a player just for playing their class, its really pompous to expect comms just for healing.

Don't expect them, they are a nice bonus for a job well done, expecting them is kind of a bad attitude to have. I mean if every performs well, players still have only one comm to hand out. Yeah getting no comms for turning a run around or carrying everyone else is annoying, but at the end of the day, there isn't much you can do about it.

Expecting commendations, even when doing a good job, will just eat away at your sanity. I've had the dungeon-of-my-life many time as Healer or Tank (and I'm not slouch on DPS-Healing, or doing what it takes to make runs silky smooth as tank), and sure, sometimes you click 'exit' and not a single commendation appears (and I'd be lying if I said it didn't feel bad sometimes), but having said that, it's just one of many systems out there where it'll boil down more to player choice than it will certain standards.

I see many great posts on the forums but I rarely feel inclined to use the Thumbs Up, for example, just like you'll reach a point in FFXIV where most people just want to get X done and get out to re-queue ASAP [commending people is wasting a precious second of lifetime]. Still, I usually commend people, sometimes because I've noticed someone being awesome, other times because I get a fistful of gil for the weekly commendation requirement - and never if I feel everyone was bad. I'd be hypocritical if I expected people to do more than that for me no matter how good I play(ed).

I think the general guideline I have is "this player can definitely raid in this game, or probably already does well and it shows". Or exceptional circumstances. There are times I don't even a comm at-all. Like the in-prog Bailsar's Wall at the last boss I got as PLD, the Astro didn't DPS at-all, cards were a mystery, the two SMNs were horrible at damage. I was in Sword Oath the whole fight just to get through it, it was painful. That is a no comm situation.

I've been giving more nods to DPS lately, as I queue more as DPS, and that's just because I've ran into these kind of players that fit that description. Whereas the tanks or healers can be seen as just forgettable. I know that may sound a bit harsh you probably know what I mean when you see an Astro that just holds cards forever, the tank that can't mitigate worth their life, losing aggro, or playing the stance dance game but isn't good at it, yada yada.

The only time I get upset at no comms is when its a run where there are new people, I explain all the mechanics so they dont go in blind, I perform admirably both dpsing and keeping everyone healthy, I banter socially during the run, offer positive reinforcement when newbies do well on new fights, only to find at the end of the run not one of them thought to give me a comm. It doesn't happen often... but when it does, I really notice. :(

I usually see an influx of comms on reset and shortly after. Many people just do their 5 comms for challange log and don't click that notification until next reset.

99.9% of the time, if my healer is dpsing (in cleric stance), they will get my comm. If i see a tank stance dancing is a runner up. Or if somebody just endsup makong me laugh (bard ripping hate and dying and has something whitty to say). It all really depends.

But the person who doesn't say anything or do anything beyond "pew pew or make HP go up" and waits to be the last one out hoping for default comm...lol no.

Personally no - we're doing the job we're supposed to do. I don't give a tank a commendation for keeping hate, or a DPS a comm for doing damage. But if I see a Tank has used initiative at a point where something could potentially wipe the party and he's saved us, or a DPS has cleverly interacted with a mechanic or has otherwise remembered to use their available support utilities then yeah, I'll comm them. In full parties if none of the above happens, I'll probably just comm the other healer for a job well done.

I never comm...ever. I find the whole thing subjective. I don't expect comms, don't give comms. Who am I to judge if you did 'acceptable' or not. In my opinion: If we finished a dungeon/raid/trial the tank held hate, the healer kept people alive, and the dps dsp'd...we won. Comms for everyone.

I take that back...I will comm if something absolutely 'what the fuck just happened' amazing took place. Like dps solo'd the last 3% of a boss after a wipe...or healer gets everyone up and back under control after a wipe. Other than that...fuck comms.

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I used to get annoyed at never getting comms as paladin when I used Clemency to heal heal, or save the cleric from dying, figured actually saving people from a party wipe would be commendable...but then I realized the same I said above...what I think should be worthy of a commend, is clearly not the same as what the other player thinks is worthy. I'm sure there are people out there that will not commend a Cleric unless he has 1,800dps per second in any given dungeon. Harsh..but his guideline for comming people.

I'm sure everything has been said on the topic, but oh well.

Tanks/Healers are a bit spoiled when it comes to coms, tbh. I see healers complains in LS too when they don't get a com, because they have come to expect them at this point lol. I've had to keep my mouth shut a couple times because if they knew the coms went to me as NIN, they'd lose their shite.

I think what people don't realize is the higher level you get, the pickier people are about giving out coms. In the earlier levels tanks/healers got coms for showing up. In stuff like expert roulette, people are looking to speed run it, which means they are eying up the DPS that knows their Job enough to help that.

But it really boils down to the people you end up with. Some com based on performance. A lot com purely on "was this person pleasant to play with?"

i tend to give comms out regulary. i don't get your issue comms are really subjective to someones whims like, being friendly, glam, played well and the challenge log even pays to comm. that being said I've wanted comm someone and he/she leaves the duty like their pants are on fire b4 i can. if you main healer you will be swimming in comms I'm just shy of 3000. i don't expect comms but its always nice when i do.

I get more comms as BLM these days than as any of the healers, and that's because i simply move to dodge mechanics rather than eating them.

I use cleric stance as much as possible, and i don't let people die. People just aren't impressed by healers anymore. Some people see the people constantly switching in and out of cleric stance as just doing their job, and nothing extraordinary. Others get annoyed that their healer is dpsing, and don't think they deserve the comm.

I am extremely bias and almost always comm tanks unless they give a big reason not to.

Need more tanks!

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Originally Posted by winsock

I am extremely bias and almost always comm tanks unless they give a big reason not to.

Need more tanks!

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I am this way with healers. I almost always (90% of the time) comm my healer, unless one of the DPS was so off the hook they made the dungeon into EZ Mode, then I will comm a DPS.

Need more healers!!

I actually try to avoid comming healers just because DPS never really experience any appreciation of any kind. They're kind of ignored unless they miss a DPS check, and people rage at them if they can't do every skip ever created.

Well, comms are mostly about preference.

Personally, I always try to give out a commendation. Who gets it depends on whether they were pleasant to play with (Greeting, humor etc), whether they did a good job, whether I like or disapprove of their glamour etc etc. It's basically an internal point system. If the run was non-descript and nobody stood out either way, I give it to my complementary role - tank&healer, DPS&DPS.

As for getting comms myself, I don't really have issues getting them. As nasty as I am on the forums, people typically seem to enjoy playing with me. /huh

I tend to give comms to whoever is the most fun to play with. Playing with good players is much more common than fun players. If you respond to me after the initial "Hello!", you're likely to get it! If no one does, the next option I use is how much I enjoy their glamour. I don't avoid comming someone based on principle or whatever. Only if they're a jerk!

I think there's a good portion of people that give comms based on enjoyment rather than skill. I usually get about the same amount when I play DPS.