3.57 Hinterland drop rate of Luminous Crystals incorrect!

15 fates only got 1 crystal...
all other areas are fine but only hinterlands doesnt drop as fast as them

Not to be that guy, but rng is rng, right?

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Originally Posted by Tule

Not to be that guy, but rng is rng, right?

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This.

FFXIV has a pretty sophisticated RNG, so as long as the base drop rate isn't more than 50% you're still more likely to not get a crystal from each attempt.

You only need 1 crystal now soooooo....

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Originally Posted by KingXRay

15 fates only got 1 crystal...
all other areas are fine but only hinterlands doesnt drop as fast as them

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Looks to me it's working as intended. Because as others mentioned there's always RNG and I remember having to run a couple of zones for hours doing more then 80+ fates to even get a crystal or two. Sometimes they would drop at the first fate but the last one would be such a pain in the butt to get. Before the adjustments from last night. Reminded me a bit of the old relic quest. So I guess you're running 15 fates and getting 1 crystal, since you only need 1 and not 3 anymore is a good drop rate I personally wouldn't complain about.

Oh no, 15 whole fates?

What about the hundreds people did, if not over 1000, for the old amount of crystals, or even the ATMA of 2.X?

Go talk to the crafters too, ask them about their 80% Hasty Touches missing a lot. They'll be more than happy to talk about that *cough*

Yea, 10% is 10%, that means 90% chance to miss, 90% is 90% that means 10% chance to miss, just because you miss 15 times and think to yourself but if it's 90/100 then that must be 9/10 times I should get it, then you're thinking of RNG in the wrong way. RNG has the quirk of rolling the lower end at times so it's pretty much bad luck that out of all the zones you had 1 zone where you kept rolling a fail to get the crystal.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Go talk to the crafters too, ask them about their 80% Hasty Touches missing a lot. They'll be more than happy to talk about that *cough*

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Ohhh a 10x Inner Quiet Stack and one Hasty Touch left, I'll 100% HQ this It.... SHIT.. Hasty just failed.. NO!!! I have only 24 CP left for Byregots and... OH GOD WHAT IS THIS?! POOR CONDITION NOOOOOOOOOOO..

(Example of someone who is fresh to Raths Rotation, INB4 People go crazy and tell me how to Craft xD)

There are exactly two categories of randomness.

100% : guaranteed to succeed, praise the deity of choice for not requiring the sacrifice of two left gonads and two first-borns.
Not 100%: expect it to fail, praise the deity of choice when it doesn't.

That you got a crystal at all after only fifteen FATEs should have you thanking your patron god.

Were you around for the old Atma FATE grinds back in the day? I farmed for four hours one day in one single zone and no drop. I'm sure many others have similar stories. RNG is a b*tch, but it is what it is. Like everyone said, thank your lucky stars you got it all instead of having to do 30, 40, or God forbid 100.

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Originally Posted by whiteblade89

Were you around for the old Atma FATE grinds back in the day?

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Those were the best. I got my first 11 inside of twelve hours. My last atma took nineteen hours by itself.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

Those were the best. I got my first 11 inside of twelve hours. My last atma took nineteen hours by itself.

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Sounds about right lol there was always one area that would screw you over. I almost gave up a few times, but eventually you just go into autopilot until you hear that glorious "shink" sound lol

I just called the popcorn manufacturers. They's have several truckloads ready within the hour.

1/15 was bound to happen to one of the people who would post a thread like this about it. Sorry it had to be you (but yes, it did have to be somebody).

Please think before you actually post a thread....

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Originally Posted by Airget

Yea, 10% is 10%, that means 90% chance to miss, 90% is 90% that means 10% chance to miss, just because you miss 15 times and think to yourself but if it's 90/100 then that must be 9/10 times I should get it, then you're thinking of RNG in the wrong way. RNG has the quirk of rolling the lower end at times so it's pretty much bad luck that out of all the zones you had 1 zone where you kept rolling a fail to get the crystal.

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Incorrect. That's not RNG, that's percentage. Unless it's zero or 100 you need to ignore it. RNG works differently to how you think, there's no bias in it, no luck involved, just mathematics.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

...or even the ATMA of 2.X?

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Finished all the 2.x relics through Atma and then a week later they nerfed the drop rate... FeelsBadMan

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Originally Posted by Mwynn

I have only 24 CP left for Byregots and... OH GOD WHAT IS THIS?! POOR CONDITION NOOOOOOOOOOO..

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If you got an Excellent on the step right before you would normally hit Byregot's, and you didn't skip Great Strides to use your Excellent proc on BB, you deserve to NQ!

Welcome to Final Fantasy XIV where crafting has taught me about rates in this game, 99% and 1% are actually 50%

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Originally Posted by Elixirboy

If you got an Excellent on the step right before you would normally hit Byregot's, and you didn't skip Great Strides to use your Excellent proc on BB, you deserve to NQ!

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Someone doesn't understand Sarcasm it seems, People need to chill in this Section ^^

No worries on that, espescially if you work with HQ Mats to begin with, those errors literally can't happen if you atleast take two ToT Proccs in the start as a "Fail Safe" Plan.
If you purely use NQ Mats... ya, it's the fault of ones own, that NQ Results will happen as Hasty Touch can be nasty in those Moments.
Though to someone that is new to Crafting and probably uses Raths Rotation or Kats MaMa's Rotation, mistakes like that tend to happen quite often.

In my case, I'm almost maxed out on Quality before I even use Byregot's Blessing, so in that case... a "Poor" Conditioned Byregots would max my Craft out anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

anyway i already finished grinding for all classes anima by hitting my space bar so hard :D
i dk why hitting my space bar but i find it make it easier to drop for no reason!
NO MORE RNG TROLLING ME NOW HA :P