Different types of weapons for classes.

I think it would be kind of cool if classes had like 2 weapon choices. Like how CNJ can choose between a 2h staff, or wand and shield. Maybe it would be like a series of quests for your class to learn a new weapon. Skills would be the same though. Like for example, a crossbow or bow, nunchucks for monk. A staff for lancer. A whip would be cool also...no idea what class that would work for though.

They took those out, I THINK because there were issues with either balancing the two weapons or drops(ie, like PLD's Shield/Sword). I forget what the said reason was.

IF they did add new weapons(especially if they're drastically different) then they'd have to revamp the animations. Though there are times I'd kind of like a mace-type weapon for my PLD...

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Originally Posted by CryBloodwing

I think it would be kind of cool if classes had like 2 weapon choices. Like how CNJ can choose between a 2h staff, or wand and shield. Maybe it would be like a series of quests for your class to learn a new weapon. Skills would be the same though. Like for example, a crossbow or bow, nunchucks for monk. A staff for lancer. A whip would be cool also...no idea what class that would work for though.

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They could equip wand and shield and is been removed. It creates problems for the general progression an BiS... Also that's a way liberal use of the word cool.

I think it would be kind of cool if you posted your idea in this thread: Future Ideas thread for 4.00 Stormblood and beyond/Quality of Life http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ality-of-Life.

Really? I was just using a wand and shield like a week ago....

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Originally Posted by CryBloodwing

Really? I was just using a wand and shield like a week ago....

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Yes. But you'll notice very soon that they don't exist above a certain level.

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Originally Posted by dragonseth07

Yes. But you'll notice very soon that they don't exist above a certain level.

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But the person said they were removed, which they have not. It looks like 50 for the highest shield and 56 for the highest wand.

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Originally Posted by ZioSerpe

They could equip wand and shield and is been removed.

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I wish they gave each race a different stance when a weapon is drawn, similar to FFXI. The image below is the difference races as MNK when their weapons drawn:

http://www.devtome.com/lib/exe/fetch...%2FZOMxCWH.gif

I honestly miss the 1h wand+shield on WHM and BLM. It's a shame they discontinued that concept.

I posted this myself but someone i ran with made a good point, balancing issues. take my PLD one handed axe and shield idea. Axes would up the damage yes but it just wouldn't fit the lore.

Unfortunately the very core of the Armoury System prevents that - this is not like FFXI where Job class and weapon were completely separate (and thus a Job could often use multiple types of weapons), in FFXIV's Armoury System your weapon is your class, it's identified by it's weapon or tool. One-handed wands and shields for CNJ/WHM and THM/BLM was a holdover from the original version of FFXIV where shields were actually a seperate sub-class called 'Sentinel' (or SEN for short) - CNJ and THM could equip the SEN class and gain skill points for the class but only GLA could make use of it's abilities.

This changed when 1.0's battle system and classes were redesigned for the introduction of Jobs, SEN as a specific class was scrapped and it's abilities given to GLA/PLD by default, shield use became classless, but THM and CNJ could still equip certain types of shields.

I'm pretty sure Yoshi wanted to move away from single handed wands and shields for THM/BLM and CNJ/WHM (shown by high level THM/BLM and CNJ/WHM weapons being almost solely two-handed) so it's even more telling that SE are rather committed to sticking to the 'one weapon type per class' concept I'm afraid.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

I'm pretty sure Yoshi wanted to move away from single handed wands and shields for THM/BLM and CNJ/WHM (shown by high level THM/BLM and CNJ/WHM weapons being almost solely two-handed) so it's even more telling that SE are rather committed to sticking to the 'one weapon type per class' concept I'm afraid.

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The change to two-handed exclusiveness was originally more a system thing. Prior to one of the first patches of Heavensward they couldn't really pair drops together. Sword/Shield and Wand/Shield combos would end up with parts dropping independent of each other. This actually made a fair amount of mess during leveling and 2.0/2.1 progression.

Right now they could start giving BLM and WHM wands/rods and shields, but I think they have chosen to hold off in order to give them more room for future class design.

Its a good idea to remember that originally Gladiator and Paladin used 3 "different" weapon types: Daggers, Macuahuitl and Swords. Daggers were changed to Swords in 2.4 so that Daggers could be exclusively Rogue/Ninja weapons.

Yeah, it'd be nice to have more variety in weapon and especially the weapon animation, or perhaps have existing ones more customisable. I think they would say it is too much work though..

I wish we had this to be honest.

Hate me all you want.
But in FFXI i had a blast equipping whatever weapon i want. That Naginata Polearm was so dope on Samurai for Bird parties, until you got Amanomurakumo!
And i wish so much, that we could use a Naginata on Samurai, additionally - not instead - to the Katana.

I don't think Balancing would even be an issue, just make them the same stats really.
It's more of a... "okay, now we need to make new stance/auto-attack animations, possibly new skill animation that detect which weapon type you have equipped,
and if you want them to be seperate and have one of each for every primal etc., then it's instantly twice as much art design work.

What.. I could see them actually implement, is weapon glamours that are unique weapons. But making this work with current animations might be tricky or limiting too.

Glamour is the way to go...add them to gold saucer and you'll see people loving gold saucer a lot.

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Originally Posted by ShinMetsu

I wish we had this to be honest.

Hate me all you want.
But in FFXI i had a blast equipping whatever weapon i want. That Naginata Polearm was so dope on Samurai for Bird parties, until you got Amanomurakumo!
And i wish so much, that we could use a Naginata on Samurai, additionally - not instead - to the Katana.

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actually that is the one thing FF11 got right, almost ever FF that had a jobs system had weapon variations for every job except for a small few like bard or dancer. The major ones that didnt were everything from 7 uo with 12 and noctis being the exception it seems
Furthermore the class system was originally designed for the exact oppositte purpose, but when they added jobs in this game they had to limit what one could do, by naking the class system less useful.
MAYBE when they eliminate the class system entirely, they could do this, but I feel like at this point it would require too many resources to be worth it