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With Kurogane being a huge one map city, isn't it about time to make all previous city one map cities? I think that would be cool and more interesting to walk through them.

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Originally Posted by Arutan

With Kurogane being a huge one map city, isn't it about time to make all previous city one map cities? I think that would be cool and more interesting to walk through them.

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Seems like a waste of the developers time to me

There have been quite a lot of threads about this recently. Splitting them up was a design decision and stitching them back together again would be a massive amount of work adding all of the extensive 'missing' areas in between the joins. The benefits don't outweigh the costs right now, but hopefully new cities will be designed more ambitiously.

That would still be less of developer's time waste than diadem v2.

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Originally Posted by Arutan

That would still be less of developer's time waste than diadem v2.

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Not really the new diadem is better than the old one and provides something to do, this would remove a 60 second or so loading screen the rare times people don't just teleport where they want to go in the city

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Originally Posted by Arutan

That would still be less of developer's time waste than diadem v2.

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No it wouldn't, Diadem was redesigned with new concepts and replaced the older design, it's easier to redesign a concept when you don't have to worry about leaving anything out from the older version.

With the cities it's extremely different, it's not just about take Zone A and Zone B and overlaying them to fit together as a new zone.

-You have to first recreates the zone and re-imagine it as 1 whole zone.

-Then you have to look at everything in those 2 old zones and meticulously place them in the same location.\

- Then you have to make sure all the NPC triggers are still there.

-Make sure all the Cutscenes are still in the game for those zones

And this is just for 1 city, then you have to repeat the process of the other 2 2.0 cities as well as the 3.0 city. It just isn't worth the effort for the minimal immersion it would provide to a small minority that would like to see it.

It's not very marketable though. Whether you like Diadem or not, saying 'we released a new gameplay mode to give a taster of a mode we're adding in Stormblood' is a lot more impressive-sounding than 'we spent hundreds and thousands of dollars adding more corridors 99% of people will never use in Ishgard'.

Limsa was one map during 1.0 I liked it much better then it being split now.

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Originally Posted by Serilda

There have been quite a lot of threads about this recently. Splitting them up was a design decision and stitching them back together again would be a massive amount of work adding all of the extensive 'missing' areas in between the joins. The benefits don't outweigh the costs right now, but hopefully new cities will be designed more ambitiously.

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Gridania, Limsa Lominsa and Ul'dah are only missing some tunnels and stairs.
It is Ishgard that will make the most work

I wonder if the new city will have loading times like afkshire. Because teleporting to that place

I would love to be able to sit on the top deck of Limsa and look down at the people on the lower deck. Its so strange to see nothing there right now. Maybe one day we will see a small change to the old cities!

I would rather the dev time be spent on making SB better than HW, instead of resources being used on older cities. I'd rather have more new content.

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Originally Posted by LadyKairi

I would rather the dev time be spent on making SB better than HW, instead of resources being used on older cities. I'd rather have more new content.

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^ this

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Originally Posted by LadyKairi

I would rather the dev time be spent on making SB better than HW, instead of resources being used on older cities. I'd rather have more new content.

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Sometimes other QoL and non content features are better than new content that will be obsolete quicker than you can blink or be dead on arrival like most is.

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Originally Posted by bass9020

I would love to be able to sit on the top deck of Limsa and look down at the people on the lower deck. Its so strange to see nothing there right now. Maybe one day we will see a small change to the old cities!

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Merging the two zones doesnt seem like a "small change" to me though - for this scenario the small change would be to add NPCs walking on the part of the lower decks you can see. I guess its all some sort of background-map-thing, so that would be a small addition and well within reason... redesigning whole areas... phew...

So regardless of where you are in a city, you will have the chat flooded with RMT messages? No thank you ;)

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Originally Posted by Arutan

I think that would be cool and more interesting to walk through them.

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Not really, V1 Ul'dah and Gridania were one big map (except for the top tier in U'ldah) and IMO it's a toss-up and certainly not worth the non-trivial engineering effort I expect it would need to combine them now.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Limsa was one map during 1.0 I liked it much better then it being split now.

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All the cities were a single map each, not just Limsa. But yeah I agree it was much better.