Data Center Move - Any Idea Where To?

As a player from SoCal, the latency is complete crap =/ and then I saw this...

https://puu.sh/uEiMM.jpg

And now I'm curious if anyone knows where it's headed?

Please, for the love of sweet baby Jesus, do LA or something lol. At the very least Texas =D

Somewhere in the middle might be nice, I don't understand all the network so a literal equidistant to the majority of players may not make the best sense for speed.. but I'd love to see it closer than it is now. Also have to keep in mind our friends to the north and south.

Saw no change from Japan to Canada (also west coast), actually maybe even worse sometimes, so the whole change last time was like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ lol.

Happy to get some more responsiveness, I hope XD.

I don't think we have any infos on the location yet, so for all we know, they might just move it to the other side of the room so that access to the coffee machine is easier.

Pay attention to future live letters and interviews, tho', the question of "Where" is bound to pop up at some point.

They said they would give detailed info on forums when time is about right, so expect info on early May or April maybe. No one knows yet.

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Originally Posted by KiloByte

As a player from SoCal, the latency is complete crap =/ and then I saw this...

https://puu.sh/uEiMM.jpg

And now I'm curious if anyone knows where it's headed?

Please, for the love of sweet baby Jesus, do LA or something lol. At the very least Texas =D

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Not many gaming companies move their servers to LA and there's a reason for that, but the topic would be pages long if we start to explain that. Also most likely you're with comcast or warner and that's your nr1 problem right there, not so much SE, I've experienced the same till I switched providers. Again complete different topic but no we do not know where the servers are going to be moved. Let's just hope it's somewhere inside the US but it might not happen.

Why is it my ISP's fault that their servers are in Canada? I can play WoW, Rift, BD Online, GW2, Destiny, H1Z1, and many other just fine as they all have servers closer to me. The DC for FF XIV NA is entirely too far away to get a good connection to. I even have ping issues at work where I'm working with the following connection lol...

http://www.speedtest.net/result/6130193857.png

It isn't me.

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Originally Posted by KiloByte

Why is it my ISP's fault that their servers are in Canada? I can play WoW, Rift, BD Online, GW2, Destiny, H1Z1, and many other just fine as they all have servers closer to me. The DC for FF XIV NA is entirely too far away to get a good connection to. I even have ping issues at work where I'm working with the following connection lol...

http://www.speedtest.net/result/6130193857.png

It isn't me.

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I'm in Seattle, on a 30/30 connection, and I have sub 100 pings most days. Its probably your ISP's routing tables lol. Especially if its 5-800 ms.

High bandwidth does not equal low ping.

I'm also in the Seattle area, and on Comcast, it's definitely a routing issue. My ping is so bad when it hits level3, I have to use a VPN to get a decent connection. Not sure a server move will do any good, but it's exciting nevertheless.

level3

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and bard weapons.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Somewhere in the middle might be nice, I don't understand all the network so a literal equidistant to the majority of players may not make the best sense for speed.. but I'd love to see it closer than it is now. Also have to keep in mind our friends to the north and south.

Saw no change from Japan to Canada (also west coast), actually maybe even worse sometimes, so the whole change last time was like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ lol.

Happy to get some more responsiveness, I hope XD.

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It has nothing to do with distance, if you compare world wide distance, Canada is pretty good. The problem with it being there is having to go though level 3 and they may not have a good internet service going to their servers there.

They could move it 50 miles and be a 1000 times better just because of having better services to connect to the servers.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

It has nothing to do with distance, if you compare world wide distance, Canada is pretty good. The problem with it being there is having to go though level 3 and they may not have a good internet service going to their servers there.

They could move it 50 miles and be a 1000 times better just because of having better services to connect to the servers.

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Yeah I figured as much, since I've read similar (which is why I added that I don't think equidistant is probably not a thing to worry about/consider) - but I don't know crap about level 3 besides that everyone complains about it lol. (Well I understand basics of routing, but still nothing about good locations to optimize everyone's circumstances, sounds impossible tbh haha.. someone is going to get the shaft :3).

So if they moved 50 miles and it's 1000 times better that's cool with me :P. I noticed when they went from Japan to Canada that the usual delay went no where but /occasionally/ it's much worse, but I've considered that maybe the game is more popular too so eh. lol. Suppose I could have tested the connection when it was bad to see where the issue was mostly coming from :P

lol @ "I use speedtest, therefore I understand networking"

You don't have to be a douche about it.

Where would you guys like it to move?

I think they should move it to Antarctica.

run a trace to the server ip, thatll tell you where the issue starts

Chicago, Dallas or Kansas City all have excellent fiber connections and are in the middle of the continent.

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Originally Posted by Lyshell

Where would you guys like it to move?

I think they should move it to Antarctica.

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Orbital colonies work well too, though, they do have Gundam related service interruptions periodically.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

The problem with it being there is having to go though level 3 and they may not have a good internet service going to their servers there.

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The issue is more complex than simply blaming Level 3. As network infrastructure is by no means simple and relies on several companies.

Many times Level 3's services are not the issue. As other servers and hardware by other Companies provide essential routing services are vulnerable to Redundancy failures, misconfiguration from network changes, and of course DDoS attacks. Below is a perfect and more recent example:

The last major outages that affected a large portion of XIV players was falsely reported blaming Level 3. As the true issue after investigations was DDoS attacks on DNS Servers which is an entirely different company and service. It is why it also affected more players located all over the US. From a normal PC player's eyes via trace routing it looked like the issue was Level 3, but in fact it was a DNS server being crippled and not sending you to the proper route.

The other not so complex issue is Level 3 owns and operates several major pipelines in the US. A physical location move has a good percentage of the major pipeline still being Level 3.

I am not supporting Level 3, I'm simply stating the issues are not so simple to go the easy route and just blame them.

All I hope is that they end their alliance with Level3. I know that their Frankfurt-am-Main EU Datacentre also uses Level3 to provide the last bit of the route & for me, in the UK, it has terrible latency. In fact, it's often worse than to the NA Datacentre because my route to there usually avoids Level3 altogether.