Why only can hit 8 at the same time?
AOE spell/ws only can hit maximum 8 mobs at the same time?
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12-02-2011, 10:17 PMLeo_HartAOE spell/ws only can hit maximum 8 mobs at the same time?
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12-02-2011, 10:24 PMDelsus
For your own safety, if you dont oneshot them 50+ mobs will kill you.
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12-02-2011, 10:25 PMKhazar
i guess they would answer it's related to server issues :) these servers cant do almost anything :/
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12-02-2011, 10:41 PMSyrous
Sage Sundi: Sorry, PS2 Limitations. Wait... Wrong game...
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12-02-2011, 10:55 PMFiosha_Maureiba
Balancing I suppose.
The server should be capable with AoE heal buff on 15 people.
Eight means the whole party still gets hit! -
12-02-2011, 10:59 PMCoglinLOL, well 8 won't kill me but by god that 9th one gets me every time...........Quote:
Originally Posted by Delsus
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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba
Not just buffs but WS and what not does beg the question. -
12-02-2011, 11:02 PMAmyRae
Must... powerlevel... faster...
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12-02-2011, 11:09 PMLeo_Hart
this is not just for PL (sry im lie), but also good for normal xp party :)
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12-02-2011, 11:20 PMTheFatHousecat
Like said before, it's most likely a server issue. We may (or may not, if the reason is balancing) see this go away once 2.0 arrives.
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12-02-2011, 11:23 PMDelsus
I would seriously say that its ballancing, if you can oneshot 20 mobs with one AoE in a PL party you will be seeing lvl 50 in a few hours, only hitting 8 mobs makes it slightly longer.
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12-02-2011, 11:44 PMviionThat "slightly longer" is about 1 seconds longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delsus
A MRD for example can do 1 AOE then another one immediately after, then another immediately after that. (3k/2k/1k). Thus AOEing 24 targets in few seconds.
Much, much faster than conjurer can do since cons limited to 8 and then casting time.
When I dual boosted (2leech, 2pl) in Copperbell we would get 23 Ants, it was hilarious how fast they dropped when my buddy would AOE and I would just heal on Conjurer.
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It seems odd to be balancing due to this, but it doesn't seem to server issue. Back when PT size was 15 you could AOE your team and mobs higher than 8 entities. -
12-02-2011, 11:54 PMDelsusThats after the MRD has TP, I know it doesnt take long with invigorate 2 etc etc but its all a little time, whish brings it up. When I was in a PL party at Treespeak the THM was killing them faster than the MRD.Quote:
Originally Posted by viion
There can be alot of problems with allowing AoEs on all mobs, say they add a mob filled dungeon that all mobs need to be killed to pop the boss, in this case people will be asking for MRD CON THM GLA only, and we will have another FotM DD (possibly scratch the GLA cos MRD can tank) -
12-03-2011, 12:59 AMAnon
Um is this confirmed? I'm pretty sure I kill more than 8 creatures at a time on my thm.
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12-03-2011, 01:01 AMDragon
It should be limited to 1 mob, just for teh lulz.
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12-03-2011, 01:06 AMviionGo try it, get 9+ low level mobs u can 1shot n do an AOE, you'll see. Its most commonly seen in PL PT's, when mages only nuke 8 mobs lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anon
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12-03-2011, 01:14 AMRedAffinityxD I laughed! <3Quote:
Originally Posted by Khazar
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12-03-2011, 01:35 AMJennestiaEven though in FFXI I was able to hit well over 22 at a time....but I digress.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syrous
It's just the limit they set in place either due to the server or because they didn't want people hitting x amount at once. Nothing more nothing less. -
12-03-2011, 02:59 AMcharlemagnewell over 22 in SMN burnsQuote:
Originally Posted by Jennestia
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12-03-2011, 03:28 AMShneibel
Case A:
lets say that your aoe deal 300 dmg/mob and you hit 8 targets, that ll make the total dmg = 2,4k total dmg
Case B:
now w/o the limit and you pull a group of 8+ the dmg will be 2,4k to unlimit of dmg depend on how many target in the aoe
in mmorpg, aoe spells are suppose to have equal dmg with single target spell but divide to the amount of target it hit (standard are from 6-8 target)
so in that point, Case A will suit for the above information, and case B will make the aoe spell become overpower.
For aoe spell, the worst I can think of is the CC w/o limit, those are nightmare in pvp.
So my conclusion is for prevent overpower in DMG/effect & balanced in gameplay , nothing about server