Emergency Mission Sabotage

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03-10-2017, 01:14 PM
AureliusDraconium

Emergency Mission Sabotage

Has anyone else experienced people trolling during the emergency missions and wiping everyone very apparently for laughs? I find that once the enemies are engaged they do not seem to reset in anyway. Someone during a run thought it would be funny to grab hate on the enemies in the middle and drag them over to where everyone else were fighting. This caused a unrecoverable wipe. Even though we got everyone to wait before heading back in, the enemies just instantly slaughtered everyone once again. Everyone can avoid the enemies in the middle by running around the outer rim of the area but some people get enjoyment from causing this frustration...I think the emergency missions are cool and will be trying again but its just annoying from all the time wasted waiting for it to trigger.
03-10-2017, 01:17 PM
DaikiKiyoshi

Sounds pretty hilarious to witness the first time or two but after that I imagine it gets real old real fast. Just goes to show the trolls will always find a way.
03-10-2017, 01:35 PM
Melondra

That is considered griefing and they should be reported for it
03-10-2017, 03:17 PM
AlexanderThorolund

So it happens once and suddenly it's an epidemic?
03-10-2017, 03:21 PM
LaylaTsarra

Been in two emergency missions today. The cause for the wipe was more so because people were not communicating and party members were not selecting the same entry point. Not sure what the rush appears to be to jump in but once you mess it up you can't really recover in my view. The amount of Salt that resulted from my second experience was quite disappointing.

I'd be very surprised personally if people were purposefully trying to wipe the groups and more than likely simply had no clue what to do. It's pretty hectic once things go bad.
03-10-2017, 03:22 PM
BorisDaBlade

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Originally Posted by AlexanderThorolund

So it happens once and suddenly it's an epidemic?

Theres is always a patient zero with epidemics. And this is day one so........*forbiding music*
03-10-2017, 03:24 PM
Yurimi

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Originally Posted by Melondra

That is considered griefing and they should be reported for it

Unfortunately unless you can prove beyond doubt that it was intentional (basically they have to brag about doing it in the chat logs nothing else will matter/count) nothing will be done to the player.
03-10-2017, 08:15 PM
Culfinrandir

I've seen it with the Notorious Monsters where the member of a group arriving later to the fight pulls it out of its 'area' to reset it while the rest of their team(s) arrive. The problem is that because enmity is immediately lost, thus the monster resets, there is no name shown of who does it, unlike during a troll pull of a Hunt/open world mob. As there's no name it's impossible to report a person for doing it.

If anyone is unsure that it's trolling I witnessed - the person took enmity (there's methods) whilst standing at the very limit of the reset boundary then ran away from the fight, taking the monster with it. There wasn't even time for a tank to Provoke or whatever they do to get number one on the enmity table.
03-10-2017, 08:22 PM
Arthem

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Originally Posted by AlexanderThorolund

So it happens once and suddenly it's an epidemic?

Who said it was an epidemic?
03-10-2017, 08:34 PM
MuseTraveller

Saw emergency mission on my first run. I had no idea what to do, seems like no one did. Wipe happened, no idea why and it was impossible to re-try as everyone got slaughtered the moment they respawned cause the mobs are circling around. I'm not sure if this is intentional or what but it's a bit harsh to be unable to re-attempt this considering the RNG layers behind it.
03-10-2017, 08:50 PM
Kitfox

I think it's absolutely ridiculous that the arena doesn't reset and a single curious soul or a troll can ruin the whole thing by entering before people are ready. Utterly terrible design.
03-10-2017, 09:13 PM
Valenth

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Originally Posted by MuseTraveller

Saw emergency mission on my first run. I had no idea what to do, seems like no one did. Wipe happened, no idea why and it was impossible to re-try as everyone got slaughtered the moment they respawned cause the mobs are circling around. I'm not sure if this is intentional or what but it's a bit harsh to be unable to re-attempt this considering the RNG layers behind it.

I think they may adjust this particular aspect in the near future. It's indeed impossible to save the event once the middle guy has spawned because the middle crystal wasn't defended. Everybody who enters is one-shot immediately, which is a shame really.
03-10-2017, 09:40 PM
Cidel

Probably is meant to be this frustrating by design.

The devs might have wanted the prerequisites to be as sensitive as possible if a weapon with the highest ilevel at is at stake.

The only time I see them "fixing" or "nerfing" anything to do with the Emergency Mission is at the absolute end of HW's life (if not after). I mean I've been surprised by them before, but not nearly enough to think they'll do something here. I honestly envision them with a grin on their face saying "working as intended," as if it was their intention from the beginning for the playerbase themselves to be the biggest obstacle to the ilevel 280 weapons.
03-10-2017, 09:49 PM
Mhaeric

I've done a total of one of these missions, and this exact thing happened. I have no idea if it was intentional or not. I certainly didn't think that it was a possibility, and it was probably just people not knowing. I was new to it too obviously, as were many of the people there likely. Our small group was dealing with our boss on our side platform just fine when I noticed a bunch of chaos happening in the middle right before we got swarmed by everything after everyone else died.
03-10-2017, 11:36 PM
aesteval

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Been in two emergency missions today. The cause for the wipe was more so because people were not communicating and party members were not selecting the same entry point. Not sure what the rush appears to be to jump in but once you mess it up you can't really recover in my view. The amount of Salt that resulted from my second experience was quite disappointing.

I'd be very surprised personally if people were purposefully trying to wipe the groups and more than likely simply had no clue what to do. It's pretty hectic once things go bad.

I can say that my experience in there - yes, there was a major issue with people running back in, splitting between different gates, getting instakilled, respawning, and doing it all over again. I don't think anyone was trying to troll, I think everyone was just over-excited to get back into the new thing where people weren't 100% using their heads about it yet.
03-10-2017, 11:44 PM
aesteval

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Originally Posted by MuseTraveller

Saw emergency mission on my first run. I had no idea what to do, seems like no one did. Wipe happened, no idea why and it was impossible to re-try as everyone got slaughtered the moment they respawned cause the mobs are circling around. I'm not sure if this is intentional or what but it's a bit harsh to be unable to re-attempt this considering the RNG layers behind it.

Like you said: it's day one and learning. The proper preventative action is to learn for the next attempt. It's good to have some content to offer a challenge and learn over time instead of being immediately solvable for player engagement at times (depending on a number of factors of course - too much and it'll be a barrier and what's too much varies player by player.)
03-10-2017, 11:45 PM
aesteval

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cidel

Probably is meant to be this frustrating by design.

The devs might have wanted the prerequisites to be as sensitive as possible if a weapon with the highest ilevel at is at stake.

The only time I see them "fixing" or "nerfing" anything to do with the Emergency Mission is at the absolute end of HW's life (if not after). I mean I've been surprised by them before, but not nearly enough to think they'll do something here. I honestly envision them with a grin on their face saying "working as intended," as if it was their intention from the beginning for the playerbase themselves to be the biggest obstacle to the ilevel 280 weapons.

Yeah, I agree with this.
03-11-2017, 12:26 AM
Lunaxia

This update is one day old, and while a small percentage of intense players may have already done this 100 times, the vast majority of people will be new amd simply don't know what to do. No one is "trolling" or "ruining your fun."
03-11-2017, 12:50 AM
bardaboo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cidel

Probably is meant to be this frustrating by design.

The devs might have wanted the prerequisites to be as sensitive as possible if a weapon with the highest ilevel at is at stake.

The only time I see them "fixing" or "nerfing" anything to do with the Emergency Mission is at the absolute end of HW's life (if not after). I mean I've been surprised by them before, but not nearly enough to think they'll do something here. I honestly envision them with a grin on their face saying "working as intended," as if it was their intention from the beginning for the playerbase themselves to be the biggest obstacle to the ilevel 280 weapons.

Naaah they'll nurf it and up the drop rate on the weapons. Don't worry about it.
03-11-2017, 01:19 AM
MicahZerrshia

The one big issue is that people who know will say in /sh and /y "Don't rush in, wait a moment, let's talk strat" etc etc etc

and yet you see people running in and pulling the entire place or pulling middle mobs into the sides, dying and rushing back in, dying, repeat. It's not something you can brute force like that.

every time I have seen an emergency mission we just end up giving up on it.

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