Removal of Surnames

No offense, but less than 1% of the population has an interesting, clever, or powerful sounding name. This is virtually unattainable when requiring surnames.

I believe the only reason for surnames was because of the drama that occurs 8 years down the road when you have to merge servers...

Surnames should not exist in FFXIV. Not only do most people's names suck, but it makes the game look like a text-adventure in crowded zones.

I won't even bring up the fact that trying to send a /tell to Whargershire Alizeilaronetsunakashima as he runs across the screen is often a disaster.

If you are in defense of surnames, please know that your name sucks and is not memorable to anyone other than yourself (unless you're Belgian, Rofl, that is...)

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EDIT: The solution we have all agreed upon is to make surnames optional. Those people who don't care about having a name that sucks can keep their surnames. Those of us who want to be seen with only a nickname will be satisfied as well. Yoshi-P! Fix this right away!

Yeah, i thought they were sort of silly.

It anything it just makes /telling a hell of a lot more tedious.

I dunno most of my names are pretty bad ass


Ruari Cairdeas : Which translates to Red Headed King of Friendship. :P
I need to play Ruari more though, I've kinda left her sit idle lately.

/thumbsup for surnames

surnames are stupid.

Surnames are alright. You really can't remove a feature because people picked names that didn't exactly fit in with the game.

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If you are in defense of surnames, please know that your name sucks and is not memorable to anyone other than yourself (unless you're Belgian, Rofl, that is...)

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Oh nevermind, it's just a bored kid trying to troll.

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Originally Posted by BelgianRofl

No offense, but less than 1% of the population has an interesting, clever, or powerful sounding name. This is virtually unattainable when requiring surnames.

I believe the only reason for surnames was because of the drama that occurs 8 years down the road when you have to merge servers...

Surnames should not exist in FFXIV. Not only do most people's names suck, but it makes the game look like a text-adventure in crowded zones.

I won't even bring up the fact that trying to send a /tell to Whargershire Alizeilaronetsunakashima as he runs across the screen is often a disaster.

If you are in defense of surnames, please know that your name sucks and is not memorable to anyone other than yourself (unless you're Belgian, Rofl, that is...)

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First of all, I despise having to mis-name my character to be able to have one that I want. This game lets me walk through town once without seeing 10 people with the following names..

-Cloud
-Clowd
-Clouud
-Clouuud
-Clooud

or

-Sephiroth
-Sephiiroth
-Sephirothh
etc
etc
etc

At the very least people can use a more diverse set of names. It iritates the living hell out of me when I am forced to misspell a name that I often like just to obtain it. I loved having my name as Amecia, but I'm forced to scour name books, wikipedia, google, etc for another hour or two just to find a decent one and hope that one isn't taken as well.

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Originally Posted by Blitz0309

Yeah, i thought they were sort of silly.

It anything it just makes /telling a hell of a lot more tedious.

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Yes, the /tell function sucks right now. It would be nice if we could get a CTRL + R function for auto reply to last sender.

You do know that if you are sending /tells to just one person you can do /cm t Mr Smith , and it will set that as your default chat right?

I think surnames should be available as an option, but I dislike the fact that we're all forced to use them.

Back before release, Tanaka said surnames were implemented to ensure players can always get the name they want. Well guess what, SE? The name I want is only ONE name! Forcing me to use two names takes away my freedom to use the name I truly want.

I understand some people might run into issues if the name they want is already taken, and so surnames should be available as an optional choice for them, but for the rest of us they're just unnecessary and obtrusive.

I like the idea of Surnames it makes the game a lot more realistic in my opinion. And it prevents random thrown together names with no spaces.. All they need to do is fix the /tell functions and search features so that only one half of the name needs to be put in to tell or look for someone .. Or maybe a /sea all function like in FFXI.. And to fix the name crowding ..there was also a function that could take off names in XI just by typing /names. Surnames aren't the problem the /tell function and search feature is where the game needs work.

BelgianRofl, you are teh Ubertroll.

Everyone I know, in all 3 LS and every forum, has heard of you! You are famous!

Are you trying to seek attention in any possible way? It's working. Keep it up. You could, one day, be known worldwide for being banned from the most forums ever!

How do you contain all that Epic in just one person?

I love the surnames so yay! Really is it that hard to come up with a surname man laziness...

Also if you ever do first "The Horn and the Hand Faction" leves they actually poke fun at the people that try to use Sephiroth as their name and mention at least 4 different ways people to try to write it before the NPC gives up on trying to remember.

And besides just because right now there isn't a use is no reason to take away a unique and harmless feature of the game I mean now your just nit picking.

I'm in favor of a system without surnames.

I'm in favor of a system that is unfair to people who are uncreative and pick some of the dumbest sounding names from other FF titles, various rpgs, and anime.

Not taking into account that OP is a troll, main thing I see with surnames is that all the migrating people from ffxi should be able to retain their names. Since they all mix up in new servers in ffxiv, odds are a number of the more popular names are already taken. That along with Magicofgaia's excellent examples.

It's not that big of a deal sending a message to a certain player. with <t>, ctrl+r or just the plain ability to type a full name, it's not that tedious.

I like my alliteration.. Lina Lux... It just roles off the tongue!

And I can assure you that over half the people's first names in game aren't that great neither! Like what Jillian Nekonia said, you're just finding little things to pick at

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Originally Posted by MagicofGaia

Yes, the /tell function sucks right now. It would be nice if we could get a CTRL + R function for auto reply to last sender.

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Um.. you can use CTRL + R and it will cycle though roughly the last 5-ish people that you have talked to so you don't have to keep typing their name, this has been in the game for a while now.



As for surnames, I really like having them and I have seen some very clever ones running around. I don't think they will remove them, and I hope they don't because I've also become attached to my name. <3

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Originally Posted by JillianNekonia

And besides just because right now there isn't a use is no reason to take away a unique and harmless feature of the game I mean now your just nit picking.

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I disagree with the notion that surnames are harmless.

Surnames have their advantages, sure, but there are several downsides as well. For example, as I already pointed out, one downside is that their forced usage strips players of their freedom to choose the name they really want (I wanted to simply name my character Rhianu, but the game forced me to come up with a surname, which took away a certain degree of my freedom). Plus it also creates a situation in which every single player has a ridiculously long name, thus making it annoying when trying to send /tells, and creating an excessive amount of on-screen text. Also, some names just feel less interesting when a surname is stuck on the end of it.

Surnames should be available as an option, but they should be just that: an option. They should not be mandatory.

I like surnames. And I believe there is away to save nick names to ppl we talk to alot

My forum name is my planed game name actually.

As for the OP, sorry but you name is far from creative, forum name that is.

I like them.

People are unoriginal regardless of surnames. Surnames are literally such a non-issue, that it would be a waste of time to remove them at this point.

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Originally Posted by Rhianu

I disagree with the notion that surnames are harmless.

Surnames have their advantages, sure, but there are several downsides as well. For example, as I already pointed out, one downside is that their forced usage strips players of their freedom to choose the name they really want (I wanted to simply name my character Rhianu, but the game forced me to come up with a surname, which took away a certain degree of my freedom). Plus it also creates a situation in which every single player has a ridiculously long name, thus making it annoying when trying to send /tells, and creating an excessive amount of on-screen text. Also, some names just feel less interesting when a surname is stuck on the end of it.

Surnames should be available as an option, but they should be just that: an option. They should not be mandatory.

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That's the thing though, without surnames, you'll have people with Rhianu4352 and people trying to spell it different ways. The point of surnames is to where you can have the same first name with spelling. I get the 'sounds better without' but I'm sure there is a name that would sound good... or you just picked a bad first name ;)

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Originally Posted by Galamantyl

I'm in favor of a system without surnames.

I'm in favor of a system that is unfair to people who are uncreative and pick some of the dumbest sounding names from other FF titles, various rpgs, and anime.

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What if you heard of a name in an anime, looked up its meaning and liked what it meant?

I had a character named kekkaishi. I learned it from an anime and I liked what it meant and fit my mithran rdm.
Kekkaishi translates into barrier master. And rdm has alot of self buffers.

honestly why do you guys play mmo and feel the need to nitpick what ppl use as names. I like how silly ppl names can be. Or if they use them off anime. I met friends who like the same stuff I did cuz I saw their name was from an anime I like.

I think the system should be unfair to those who nitpick.

Surnames ensure that a HIGHER percentage of names will be imaginative and interesting, as imagination won't be restricted by the impossibility of duplicated names, forcing people to settle for lesser names and silly one-two letter variations.

As of the game being turned in a "text adventure", don't make me laugh. FFXIV actually features more or less the same text as other MMOs, that display the guild name under the name. If it bothers you so much /names is your solution.

It's always funny how the opposite of a troll's arguments is normally true.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

I met friends who like the same stuff I did cuz I saw their name was from an anime I like.

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I have to agree with you on this, in FFXI I used a name from a novel I love. There were some people who caught the reference and knew of the book (and of course liked it too) and I made new friends because of that common connection. :)

the more i read this the more im reminded how much my surname was just off the top of head and how i wish i could go bak and think of something better again.

so i guess im in favor of being able to change surnames?
doesn't have to be free but rather then throwing real money i would prefer to throw time(Quest) or gil at the idea.

Oh hey look, it's that guy that sits on crafters to grief them (OP)

on-topic: No, let's not remove them.

I love surnames.
Without them we wouldn't have people named Hello Kitty or Pizza Hut.

'nuff said XD

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Originally Posted by Sirrush

the more i read this the more im reminded how much my surname was just off the top of head and how i wish i could go bak and think of something better again.

so i guess im in favor of being able to change surnames?
doesn't have to be free but rather then throwing real money i would prefer to throw time(Quest) or gil at the idea.

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Great idea. And I guess the "quest" will add a 2 at the end of your name in the case there's someone else with the same name around, right? :D

Great idea.

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Originally Posted by SirEdeonX

I love surnames.
Without them we wouldn't have people named Hello Kitty or Pizza Hut.

'nuff said XD

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We'd have Hellokitty and Pizzahut.

I like the fact that we have Surnames. I always hated when I'd create a character and low and behold the name was already taken and used.. it does give it a more real life quality to it because how many Amanda's, Michaels, Johns and peters are there out in the world today?

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Originally Posted by BelgianRofl

No offense, but less than 1% of the population has an interesting, clever, or powerful sounding name. This is virtually unattainable when requiring surnames.

I believe the only reason for surnames was because of the drama that occurs 8 years down the road when you have to merge servers...

Surnames should not exist in FFXIV. Not only do most people's names suck, but it makes the game look like a text-adventure in crowded zones.

I won't even bring up the fact that trying to send a /tell to Whargershire Alizeilaronetsunakashima as he runs across the screen is often a disaster.

If you are in defense of surnames, please know that your name sucks and is not memorable to anyone other than yourself (unless you're Belgian, Rofl, that is...)

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All they need to do is a "click to tell" to solve your little problem.

I'll agree though that it's kind of depressing when you spend a few hours going through different cultures' vocabularies trying to come up with a sweet name to log on and see some jackass named xCloudx Sephiroth.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

What if you heard of a name in an anime, looked up its meaning and liked what it meant?

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I am in favor of multiple names that mean the same thing.

I am strongly against "meanings" being the only reason to pick a name, and should be discouraged by any means possible.

I am strongly against most anime and the flintstones.

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Originally Posted by Galamantyl

I am in favor of multiple names that mean the same thing.

I am strongly against "meanings" being the only reason to pick a name, and should be discouraged by any means possible.

I am strongly against most anime and the flintstones.

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It would be more amusing if you would talk in third person instead of "I am" in every thread.

Galamantyl in favor of multiple names that mean same thing RAWWR.

I'm more interested in knowing why he hates the flintstones so much

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Originally Posted by Smashington

BelgianRofl, you are teh Ubertroll.

Everyone I know, in all 3 LS and every forum, has heard of you! You are infamous!

Are you trying to seek attention in any possible way? It's working. Keep it up. You could, one day, be known worldwide for being banned from the most forums ever!

How do you contain all that Epic in just one person?

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There, I fixed it for you :P

This discussion doesn't even make sense. Duplicate names already exist, so surnames will never be removed. It's that simple.

Putting surnames into the game was a great idea.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

It would be more amusing if you would talk in third person instead of "I am" in every thread.

Galamantyl in favor of multiple names that mean same thing RAWWR.

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That is... The absolute best idea I've heard on this forum yet. I'm telling you, out of the thousands of stupid ideas everyone at one point or another on this forum have suggested or even thought of, yours is outstanding! I love it!

Sadly, I started the "I am" and I'm too lazy to go back and change it all.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

That's the thing though, without surnames, you'll have people with Rhianu4352 and people trying to spell it different ways. The point of surnames is to where you can have the same first name with spelling. I get the 'sounds better without' but I'm sure there is a name that would sound good... or you just picked a bad first name ;)

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Actually, the name "Rhianu" is hardly ever taken in any online game I play. So forcing me to use a surname to guarantee that I'll get a name that I would have most likely gotten anyway is simply irritating and unnecessary.

Of course I do recognize that some people might have a preferred name that is more common and more likely to be taken, and so surnames should be an option that those people can use if they discover their desired name is already taken, or if they simply want to have a name in two parts.

But forcing every single player in the entire game to have two names is ridiculous and unnecessary, and limits the creative freedom of each player to choose the name they really want.

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Originally Posted by Galamantyl

That is... The absolute best idea I've heard on this forum yet. I'm telling you, out of the thousands of stupid ideas everyone at one point or another on this forum have suggested or even thought of, yours is outstanding! I love it!

Sadly, I started the "I am" and I'm too lazy to go back and change it all.

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LOL I'm really hoping there was no sarcasm in that whatsoever.
BTW it would so go with your avatar pic too.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

LOL I'm really hoping there was no sarcasm in that whatsoever.
BTW it would so go with your avatar pic too.

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Nope. Not sarcasm. I seriously thought it was a good idea. I might switch it up later, but for now, I'm moving forward with "I am". Thank you tho.

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Originally Posted by Rhianu

But forcing every single player in the entire game to have two names is ridiculous and unnecessary, and limits the creative freedom of each player to choose the name they really want.

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Not having clear rules causes confusion. So no, either you give sunames to everyone or you have everyone with only a name, and get all the Rhianuxxx, Rhianuthesecond, Rhianuhohoho and so forth.