Welcome samurai class

Welp there it is, samurai class in all its glory, june cant come fast enough =D

Judging from the quick video, it seems like the sam class will be a hybrid "charge" class, mix of melee attack with charge/cast time melee attack, cant wait!!!

I think Mr. Happy already made a small list of what they said from the livestream.
If I recall he said they will build up charges (much like warriors do for their stuff) and then spend those charges on big attacks with generally longer animations or wind-ups. So think of it like, finisher combos with much more painful and flashy numbers I guess. That said, they will MAYBE be joining dragoons on the floor as players will try to use those skills only to find themselves stuck in an AoE after clicking it. Still cool idea though. Totally will main that class. Only question is, do I main it immediately at launch and lvl it up or get all the way to the end of the expansion first and then level it up? Decisions decisions...
Also, while I'm honestly shocked they are using monk gear instead of dragoon mail gear, I love the edo period style of no/little armor and more speed/power. At least I think it's edo period... I'm not Japanese, I just fool myself to thinking I think I know stuff.

I dont think drg gear will fit to their nature i mean stereotypical of samurai is always traveling light with common clothes, not spiky or heavy armor (though iam think there will be one with shogun warlord like armor)

As for skill i really hope they will give something unique to sam class because those "charge and spend" skill seems to apply for RDM too, i can only hope yoshi not going to take easy step and make something like brd/mch again (similar class similar style similar gameplay)

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do I main it immediately at launch and lvl it up or get all the way to the end of the expansion first and then level it up?

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Last i heard is once you get it, it start immediately at level 50, as for the requirement iam not sure but considering the class share armor with monk, probably something like monk at level xx to open it and iam sure it will just like HW class, you can get it without advancing the MSQ (at least until certain part i think)

Samurai will be using monk gear

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Originally Posted by gumas

Last i heard is once you get it, it start immediately at level 50, as for the requirement iam not sure but considering the class share armor with monk, probably something like monk at level xx to open it and iam sure it will just like HW class, you can get it without advancing the MSQ (at least until certain part i think)

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The requirement is having completed the Praetorium. So level 50, end of the 2.0 story, SAM it up. (or RDM it up).

Well there's that mystery solved! (Not like it was obvious) Now the question, where would we unlock it? New area or old? Mor Dhona would actually be a nice little starting point for the new class since it's assumed it starts at 50 and ARR endgame hub took place there. One of those unused rooms could be perfect for it. NIN makes good use of that house near Wineport. Going to max out my Lore and Scripture and get all the 50 poetic stuff in preperation for SAM now, and since my main is MNK this makes me very happy.

Also curious how it will play, will it play like MNK with positionals or more like DRG where you have to master a specific rotation otherwise your DPS suffers if you mess up. I hope they try a new style, maybe they combined the playstyles of NIN (Mudras) and WAR to make this class.

I just really want they make Samurai armors i love the way the Samurai looks in FFXI

Probably monk at level xx, and finish HW story, talk to npc to unlock the class, just like HW class

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I just really want they make Samurai armors i love the way the Samurai looks in FFXI

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They seem going with common samurai style like from manga kenshin or gintoki from gintama instead of going full armor back in the day where samurai is still the major player in the army, though iam not surprised to see 1 or 2 shogun armor set

Samurai, like Red Mage, will be unlocked in one of the 2.0 areas. Given they talked about foreign trading and pirates, it'll probably be unlocked in Limsa.

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Originally Posted by Draniav

I just really want they make Samurai armors i love the way the Samurai looks in FFXI

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Assuming that SAM will use striking gear, the most we can hope for is that they'll make some armored striking sets. Thankfully we have some.

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Originally Posted by gumas

I dont think drg gear will fit to their nature i mean stereotypical of samurai is always traveling light with common clothes, not spiky or heavy armor (though iam think there will be one with shogun warlord like armor)

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Um, no. Samurai who went to battle always donned full body armor. Although not the kind we know in the west. The samurai you're referring to are those who are on RnR and happened to be strolling in town with a katana in their obi. Which was one of the samurai privileges to wield a katana in a town

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Originally Posted by gumas

Welp there it is, samurai class in all its glory, june cant come fast enough =D

Judging from the quick video, it seems like the sam class will be a hybrid "charge" class, mix of melee attack with charge/cast time melee attack, cant wait!!!

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Eagerly anticipating my close range melee caster with positionals. If it does turn out to be a Sword Wizard I'll laugh.

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Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine

Um, no. Samurai who went to battle always donned full body armor. Although not the kind we know in the west. The samurai you're referring to are those who are on RnR and happened to be strolling in town with a katana in their obi. Which was one of the samurai privileges to wield a katana in a town

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yeah I am actually not a fan of this aesthetic they chose for samurai, but im gonna guess that they want to keep the shogun look for a tank probably later on, doesnt really make sense that theyd go into dungeons almost naked, when they did wear armor in battle times


as far as monk gear goes, im thinking itll be alot like how nin was and share gear till 60. But then again, a lot of monk garb doesnt really seem to fit samurai. Theres even a ninja set from CT the fuma set that would just look very odd on a samurai...

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Originally Posted by ADVSS

yeah I am actually not a fan of this aesthetic they chose for samurai, but im gonna guess that they want to keep the shogun look for a tank probably later on, doesnt really make sense that theyd go into dungeons almost naked, when they did wear armor in battle times


as far as monk gear goes, im thinking itll be alot like how nin was and share gear till 60. But then again, a lot of monk garb doesnt really seem to fit samurai. Theres even a ninja set from CT the fuma set that would just look very odd on a samurai...

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Well, I can sort of understand why they went for this look. Samurai served a master till their death - Normally anyway. When said samurai lose favor or privileges of their master, they become "masterless" or ronins. Which were wandering samurai with no master and this does fit a samurai with adventuring in mind. These wandering samurai were more likely to be found wearing the more traditional Japanese clothing as displayed in the trailer.

Glad they went with the robed look. Was never crazy about the classic Samurai armor.

Real excited to see how it plays.

^ pretty much yeah, real life lore wise thats spot on

in game technical, most samurai in videogames (an anime i guess) is always shown with their common/wandering/ronin clothes too so i think SE just take whichever is more "common" to viewers

Looks pretty cool to me, I plan to play it.

Judging primarily from the brief notes, but also partly from the animations released thus far, it looks a bit duller than I had hoped.

Casting isn't generally something I want to see on my melee, especially if the release doesn't come with burst movement.

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Originally Posted by gumas

in game technical, most samurai in videogames (an anime i guess) is always shown with their common/wandering/ronin clothes too so i think SE just take whichever is more "common" to viewers

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Um, no, again. Sorry. As a little history tour, the kind of samurai you have in mind were in Tactics Ogre (weren't even called Samurai in here), Final Fantasy Tactics A2, Bravely Default. These had traditional Japanese (casual) clothing. The more heavily armored, ready for battle, iteration kind of samurai were in: Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy V, Final Fantasy X-2, Final Fantasy XI, Final Fantasy XIII Lightning Returns. There were some grey-area samurai. They weren't explicitly mentioned as one, but were received as one. For example Auron from Final Fantasy X. A majority of the games belonging to Square-Enix donned themselves in Japanese styled (full-body) armor or parts of it the very least. Even in the more recent game like For Honor (not belonging to Square-Enix) the samurai all participate in combat fully armored. If you'd search for some images on google for "Samurai in games" you'd notice the greater share of the images display samurai in armor. Not in their casual clothes. The lightly armored samurai isn't even common in videogames. That kind of samurai is the type romanticized by Hollywood - Or what I call them, at least.

That aside, I'm glad they went for the "historically" correct aesthetics for this. Considering the player characters are adventurers. Historically in quotes, because if they actually went for the absolute correct one only the most rich adventurers who are also nobility would be samurai. And none of us would be sporting a katana and we'd be shooting arrows on horseback instead.

So, I know SAM is going to be STR based, but could someone direct me to where they said they'd be sharing actual gear with MNK? And is there any clarification if they mean "All gear ever will be shared" or just "Stuff that's in game now" will be shared, like they did with NIN?

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Originally Posted by Zyxenfryx

So, I know SAM is going to be STR based, but could someone direct me to where they said they'd be sharing actual gear with MNK? And is there any clarification if they mean "All gear ever will be shared" or just "Stuff that's in game now" will be shared, like they did with NIN?

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It was in the keynote where it was introduced: https://eldelphia.wordpress.com/2017...-keynote-2017/

They didn't say SAM would share gear with MNK for the rest of time just that their gear would be shared with MNK. The phrasing suggests that it's a similar relationship to BRD/MCH and yeah, they're probably together forever except for AF.

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Originally Posted by gumas

Probably monk at level xx, and finish HW story, talk to npc to unlock the class, just like HW class

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why would you need mnk to unlock sam? they have nothing in common (except gear, and that's like saying you'd need BLM to unlock SMN or RDM) and sam isn't based off any class either.
all you'll need is any DoW/M class/job at 50.

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Originally Posted by Radacci

why would you need mnk to unlock sam? they have nothing in common (except gear, and that's like saying you'd need BLM to unlock SMN or RDM) and sam isn't based off any class either.
all you'll need is any DoW/M class/job at 50.

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They have also said that you unlock both of them in 2.0 areas (Ul'Dah was apparently said in an interview for RDM, guessing SAM in Limsa). One probably just needs to hit level 50, maybe beat Ultima before being able to access them.

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Originally Posted by Zyxenfryx

So, I know SAM is going to be STR based, but could someone direct me to where they said they'd be sharing actual gear with MNK? And is there any clarification if they mean "All gear ever will be shared" or just "Stuff that's in game now" will be shared, like they did with NIN?

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From FanFest Frankfurt keynote, "Those of you who uh play melee DPS are maybe going to worry about what type of equipment you'll be wearing, and battling other players over. The uh equipment will be in the same section as monks. So all you ninjas out there, breathe a sigh of relief."

The last line addressing the ninja population suggests that Striking-type gear (in dungeon sets, raid sets, and non-AF tomestone sets) will from 4.0 on be MNK/SAM, and MNKs and SAMs will be fighting over drops while NINs maintain the position of having uncontested armorsets.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

From FanFest Frankfurt keynote, "Those of you who uh play melee DPS are maybe going to worry about what type of equipment you'll be wearing, and battling other players over. The uh equipment will be in the same section as monks. So all you ninjas out there, breathe a sigh of relief."

The last line addressing the ninja population suggests that Striking-type gear (in dungeon sets, raid sets, and non-AF tomestone sets) will from 4.0 on be MNK/SAM, and MNKs and SAMs will be fighting over drops while NINs maintain the position of having uncontested armorsets.

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is this post 70 though? nin got monks gear too, till 50 and up.

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Originally Posted by ADVSS

is this post 70 though? nin got monks gear too, till 50 and up.

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He probably would have said so if it was only a certain amount of gear that would be shared, and might even have pointed out Ninja because they did share 50 and under gear with Monk. While we are getting more inventory space each job not sharing gear WILL take up alot of space AND means more resources being put into it.

Right now Monks, Dragoons, and Ninjas each have their own gear. Tanks, Healers, Ranged and Magic all share gear with atleast one class. SAM sharing with Monks means that only their weapons add a little more time and resources to development time. Red Mage will PROBABLY share with the other two mages with this being part of the reason, though they might also take Monks spot alongside Dragoon and Ninja for not sharing gear.

Well, SE did it. They got me to resub. Samurai is my favorite job in the FF game series and RDM isn't far behind. Going to be awesome to play.

I admit, I'd prefer to be wearing classic O-yoroi or at least Do-maru, but it looks like they're going more with a Rurouni Kenshin type look, which will work.

Now I just need to get caught up. I'm a few months behind. :(

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Originally Posted by ADVSS

is this post 70 though? nin got monks gear too, till 50 and up.

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Well, NIN stats were added to MNK gear that was pre-NIN so that is more of an convenience exception than anything.

I thought they would have gone with the armored samurai style, so they could share with drg being that drg doesnt share with any jobs. Im not mad, infact im happy, i prefer lighter armor, but im sure they will have some shogun armor sets, perhaps there pvp gear.

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Originally Posted by Staar

I thought they would have gone with the armored samurai style, so they could share with drg being that drg doesnt share with any jobs. Im not mad, infact im happy, i prefer lighter armor, but im sure they will have some shogun armor sets, perhaps there pvp gear.

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MNK doesn't share with anyone else. I mean, NIN doesn't count, they did that so they could focus on newer gear and forget about the older sets. SAM could be sharing their gear with NIN and the point would still stand.

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Originally Posted by Staar

I thought they would have gone with the armored samurai style, so they could share with drg being that drg doesnt share with any jobs. Im not mad, infact im happy, i prefer lighter armor, but im sure they will have some shogun armor sets, perhaps there pvp gear.

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Iirc Yoshi-P once mentioned in an interview the armored version of a samurai he envisions as a seperate (tank) class called a Shogun. But yeah, I was kinda hoping for it to share in DRG gear, for a little more sturdiness. Oh well, this will do... xP