scrub crafter needs help pls

Hello everyone sorry to post this thread but ive been looking the past 10 minutes and cant find anything so im trying to learn how to craft blue scrip stuff and one of the thing is a opal str ring and ive got the mats to prepare to make the ring but i dont know any rotation of any kind pls help anyone i would be eternally greatful.

http://ffxiv.lokyst.net/#/simulator

You can use this calculator to figure out a good rotation for what you are trying to make. You can input your class, stats, and item. :)

Sorry I dont mean to be rude but I asked if anyone knew of any crafting rotations not a calculator for me to figure it out on my own. Like I said im a scrub I got my crafts to 60 through leves Ixal, and Moogle beast tribes i barely know anything, and yes ive tried asking ppl in my fc but ppl are always busy.

"Give a man a fish he eats for a day."
I think it's best you try the calculator and learn to fish.

yeah thats great help let me fuck up crafts and learn the hard way when theres a millions of you out there that know what there doing but wont help thats just great thanks but no thanks.

Everyone has their trials to overcome. We don't know your gear, your melds, your CP, or what you even have in the way of cross class skills.
We can throw out rotations but they may be literally unavailable to you, or just put of your CP range.

Now pick up that fishing pole and cast away! You will eat for life!

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Originally Posted by Canadane

We don't know your gear, your melds, your CP, or what you even have in the way of cross class skills.
We can throw out rotations but they may be literally unavailable to you, or just put of your CP range.

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^ This. You have provided 0 information about your cross class skills or gear, how is someone supposed to provide advice?

You could try something like this as a starting point but, you are gonna have to make sure you have the required stats.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...70_durability/

There may be better rotations though. With that said, I would try to learn how to craft. Try to figure out which abilities are useful, how to use them, what to use them with, etc. It will be very helpful in the long run if you learn how to craft and not just use rotations.

ok so i have HQ Ironwork gear from head to toe and accessories and was about to started melding is that enough info all i want is a rotation just never im done with this crafting crap.

You are incredibly rude, that calculator would have spoon fed you a rotation like you wanted. As stated: we aren't mind readers, no person can give you a rotation without knowing your cross class skills and stats. I regret even trying to help you honestly, and I wonder if your FC is too busy or if you act like this to them too.

how can my frustration with getting no help in game or forums be considered rude i literally stated i suck at crafting i beast tribed and leved my way to 60 i just hit buttons when i craft all i want is help what rotations not to be told hey heres this figure it out on your own. Dont get me wrong thanks for the calculater that i dont know to work.

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Originally Posted by Jillian

You could try something like this as a starting point but, you are gonna have to make sure you have the required stats.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...70_durability/

There may be better rotations though. With that said, I would try to learn how to craft. Try to figure out which abilities are useful, how to use them, what to use them with, etc. It will be very helpful in the long run if you learn how to craft and not just use rotations.

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see thats the kind of stuff i asked for tks Jill not just a calculator so figure it out

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Originally Posted by yondaimeflash

i beast tribed and leved my way to 60 i just hit buttons when i craft

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There's your problem. You went for the fast, most economical way to level and didn't bother to learn anything on the way up. The fast, easy, and ignorance-generating way of leveling.

Try reading tooltips on what the various moves are. If you're bright enough to craft stuff for the beast tribes, you are bright enough to read them and figure out just what they all actually are and do, and use that information to make your own general purpose rotation for things like scrips. Once you have those basics down, then you might consider looking at more advanced rotations or even ditching rotations altogether and just freehanding your crafting.

What Jillian gave you is very helpful for starting out and you'll get to make a lovely little macro using copy and paste. Basically no work for you which is obviously what you want. But there are better and SAFER (so you don't break your HQ ingredients) rotations out there. That calculator (which is extremely easy to learn if a little effort is put in) can make you macros like that for any item. I have 3 specializations and almost all crafting classes at least to 50 and I still use that calculator to be safe. I suggest you really put in the time to learn your classes and how to use the helpful outside sources provided to you. And for the third time: no one can give you a truly optimized rotation without knowing your stats and cross class abilities.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

There's your problem. You went for the fast, most economical way to level and didn't bother to learn anything on the way up. The fast, easy, and ignorance-generating way of leveling.

Try reading tooltips on what the various moves are. If you're bright enough to craft stuff for the beast tribes, you are bright enough to read them and figure out just what they all actually are and do, and use that information to make your own general purpose rotation for things like scrips. Once you have those basics down, then you might consider looking at more advanced rotations or even ditching rotations altogether and just freehanding your crafting.

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Very much this. It is very similar to those who max out their combat classes using leves, Beast Tribe quests, and FATEs and as a result, have no clue how to optimize their skillset.

OP, I know you want just a simple layout of how to successfully craft your target item, but you might as well hand your keyboard/controller over to an experienced crafter to do it for you if you have absolutely no desire to learn how to craft. What the posters here are advising, is that the solution to your problem is that you spend sometime outside of leves and BTs so you can learn how to perform optimal rotations on your own. Or as Roth wisely stated, to actually ditch rotations and freehand your craft.

Also note, that simply typing out a rotation for you is asking for someone's time to help you obtain your goal. It is going to be difficult finding people willing to give you this time when you are not willing to put your own time in to help yourself.

There's literally dozens of crafting guides available if you Google ffxiv crafting.

The forums are more than willing to bend over backwards to help you if you've exhausted the resources available to you and still have questions. Buy if you don't even try to see what those resources are you're gonna have a bad time.

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Originally Posted by yondaimeflash

theres a millions of you out there that know what there doing but wont help thats just great thanks but no thanks.

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you can not drive a car, just when we tell you there is power, break and a steering wheel.
there is no omni rotation that works for everyone! so you need learn to craft on your own, everyone doing diffrent rotation because everyone has diffrent stats and skills.
first you need go to school before you can start working!

regards hobbit

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Originally Posted by LuckiGoLucki

http://ffxiv.lokyst.net/#/simulator

You can use this calculator to figure out a good rotation for what you are trying to make. You can input your class, stats, and item. :)

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Actually... THIS IS AWESOME!!! *-*
Thanks for sharing, I will definitely try this out tonight when I'm at home. :D I never knew something like this exists. :)

No idea how OP can be so rude and thankless... I am not a very experienced crafter myself, used Ixal and Moogles to get all of them to 60, but I'm trying to get into it step by step. This calculator will absolutely be a huge help. :)

Hey :) the reason no one has yet provided you with a single rotation is simple - crafting rotations depend on MANY factors, most of them related to the crafter themselves. Most specifically, your stats (CP, craftsmanship and control), as well as the recipe you're looking to craft specifically, as different recipes have different requirements.

With the information you've provided, a calculator is actually some of the best help you're going to find, as you can upgrade your stats onto that page and from then on you can simulate and test out different rotations.

We also don't know if you've got any cross class skills, if it's for your spec crafter...
The "best" rotation you can use for crafting really only depends on the tools you have available to you, and with what little info you gave in your initial post, nothing too specific could have been mentioned. ou don't need to be rude, my man, because that tool is actually one of the best crafting resources going around :P Be glad someone mentioned it.

EDIT: Went and read some of the comments on second page, including OP's own posts - I really, REALLY do think you should carefully read all your skill descriptions and use the calculator tool, not only to draw up a rotation that fits with your stats but also so you can start better understanding skills, how they synergize with each other, and even to know which stats you lack on, so on and so forth. That tool isn't useful ONLY for rotations, but also to test and study without actually wasting any mats in game (and thus won't you any gil).

this is my rotation i usually use for red scrips, i prefer this roation because is really fast, please feel free to use it.
not sure about your stats so you may have to try out, it fit into your stats :)

http://i.imgur.com/obSluLg.png

regrads hobbit

Now may i ask a question, since i'm also going to try crafting one day, is the calculator telling us what to use? and the chances of failing and success?

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Originally Posted by sean_whitmire

Now may i ask a question, since i'm also going to try crafting one day, is the calculator telling us what to use? and the chances of failing and success?

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as it says is a simulator it show you the results of your rotation and the how big the chance is of RNG, its not crafting for you but it will tell you when you fail so you dont need waste your worth items.
which is already a big help.

regards hobbit

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Originally Posted by sean_whitmire

Now may i ask a question, since i'm also going to try crafting one day, is the calculator telling us what to use? and the chances of failing and success?

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You can simulate a craft with the calculator - you select the skills in the order you want to use them and the calc. tells them wether the raft will be successful or not, and HQ chance (it also takes into consideration all your stats including CP, so if you use up all of it you won't be able to simulate using any more skills).

However you're the one inputting data onto the calculator (skills available to you, your stats, and any food extras, etc) and you're the one selecting the order in which skills are used, the calculator will only deliver to you the results (HQ chance and if it fails or not)

Thank guys that makes it a lot more easy to understand and use!

Aye your best bet is to find a rotation on the internet (such as rathes rotation) and then using the calculator, input your stats and the recipe your going to be working on. Then input the rotation from the internet into the simulator. If it's works, then happy days. If not you will need to adjust it to suit. It may require some experimentation. Once you get familiar you can start trying some of your own rotations

Dont want to hijack this thread, I never heard of this crafting optimizer. Just want to thank LuckiGoLucki for sharing it.