Put Main scenario roulette in the WT.

Queue time are getting ridiculous, been 25min and im a healer, this need more traffic.

Everyone doing raid most likely, also make sure your under join party in progress. Right now DPS seems to be faster, tanks and healers taking a bit of a back seat.

I doubt that putting it into WT would do much if anything.

For WT I do a combo of the following every week.
Doing leveling and EX for singing clusters and tomestones. 3/9
Most people do the ARR Primal train for 4 more. 7/9
Mhach dungeons are there and needed for upgrades. 8/9
Many people doing PVP for Garo, 9/9
People do CT for oils, 10/9
Aquapolis/PotD, 11/9

All of them are better than anything MSQ Roulette gives.

Make umbrites purchasable for 150 poetics and make MSQ Roulette give 150 and another 150 for the dungeon? That might do more. Maybe.

what is WT?

It really just needs to be redesigned into a solo instance and just ultima normal in trail roullete. How people are treated in msq is ridiculous and I try to never use it.

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Originally Posted by Xyno

what is WT?

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Wondrous Tails, a content you can unlock later. Requires you to do certain things to earn seals in the hopes of getting a specific Reward List.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

It really just needs to be redesigned into a solo instance and just ultima normal in trail roullete. How people are treated in msq is ridiculous and I try to never use it.

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I'm actually shocked and a bit disappointed SE hasn't done anything with the dungeon. A solo version isn't a bad, I remember 90% of the repeat players having ZERO patience for new players. If I didn't rush as a tank people would vote kick me, so it was non-option every run is a speed run.

It's easy to not get to experience any of the dungeon (endless cut-scenes) or get left behind with a wall of monsters and have no fun as they die trying to get to a panel.

SE really should do something about it. Really is a mood killer I imagine, if you were forced to skip cutscenes or not experience the dungeon and even then you have no idea what in the world is going on lol. I remember doing the first 50 MSQ when Darklight was end game, just pull every single monster till the next checkpoint, would bring them into the boss fights too and sometimes people would get locked outside and have to watch. It was really funny to me to pull that much but also a bit heart breaking to see people have to watch... but again, speed run or get kicked (like legit was kicked the first time I was like "nah.. lets go slow they're new" lol). That's the only time I've been kicked from a party too >.>;

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Wondrous Tails, a content you can unlock later. Requires you to do certain things to earn seals in the hopes of getting a specific Reward List.

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Oh. I see. I think it is a good idea. WT- is just a method to force the players to do ANY content of the game. I dont see any reasons the MSQ not to be in the book

So I AGREE with the TS

Main scenario roulette only gives poetics, right?

By the time you hit WT, poetics is meaningless. If you are a Tank farming full party instances, might as well do trial roulette.

And like someone always stated, you have more than enough options to complete WT. I had no trouble doing WT even before I unlocked Alexander and HW EX primals.

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Wondrous Tails, a content you can unlock later. Requires you to do certain things to earn seals in the hopes of getting a specific Reward List.

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I used it the other night I vowed to never use it cause I know how I was treated when I did it acutally going through story, its pretty much a must if your new to watch the cuts on youtube are in the inn that you never even go to. Even when you run it unsync most of your friends wouldnt wana sit and let you watch all the cuts either, Im willing to bet that some people just quit the game after they saw community behavior in this instance. All of that for poetics which mean nothing like someone said earlier.

With the 2nd chance points putting it in WT won't help much if people don't want to do that content.

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Originally Posted by Bixillarla

With the 2nd chance points putting it in WT won't help much if people don't want to do that content.

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It depends on whether or not people would be willing to put the time in to run it over WT content or not. I see a limited window where it could draw some people in. How many or how often? Who knows.

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I'm actually shocked and a bit disappointed SE hasn't done anything with the dungeon. A solo version isn't a bad, I remember 90% of the repeat players having ZERO patience for new players. If I didn't rush as a tank people would vote kick me, so it was non-option every run is a speed run. ;

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To be honest that's true with everything in the game. everything is SPEEEDRUNS ONRY!!

in 3.4 I got kicked from library hard mode on my first run. cos I was stopping and reading the books and having a little laugh at the extracts within... because the 10-15 seconds it takes to read is tooooo much waiting.. not even 36 hours into the patch.....

I once got kicked from sastasha in ARR cos I was going to all the optional rooms for the mapping achievement. people complained when I did the same in hauke manor one time..... the whole game is speed runs so it swhouldnt be remptely suprising to see it in the msq roulette

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Originally Posted by Big_Panda

Main scenario roulette only gives poetics, right?

By the time you hit WT, poetics is meaningless. If you are a Tank farming full party instances, might as well do trial roulette.

And like someone always stated, you have more than enough options to complete WT. I had no trouble doing WT even before I unlocked Alexander and HW EX primals.

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Crystal Tower also only give Poetics (and lv 50 gear and weekly aether oil) and is still in WT

I would say leave it out. There were a lot of threads about people ruining the experience of new players asking them to skip cutscenes and whatever. Would just make that problem even worse if it is put in WT.

Maybe if it counted for more than 1 sticker? As it is the fastest route for me is the 4 dungeons (1 unsycnd), 4 ARR primals and HW primal.

I do Main Scenario roulette everyday to level up all my jobs, I totally understand the speed running, is one of 2 places everyday. One might say expert roulette is the same, but the difference is Expert roulette can give you from a little to an ok challenge depending on your ilvl and skill as a player; Main Scenario doesn't.
When I did these 2 scenarios for my MSQ some months ago I just watched the cutscenes while people cleared the place and didn't care about helping. At the time I didn't know about the book thing where you can rewatch the cutscenes, I would have skipped them and watched them later had I known.
Point is, I am not willing to wait for other people watching the cutscenes, is at best 1 or 2 people per run than need it, and sometimes not even those, and the scenario can be completed without their help probably.
Is boring, is a chore and I'll drop it as soon as I get everything to 60... then probably pick it back up in stormblood when I'll be leveling everything to 70.

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Originally Posted by RubenSnizzle

Queue time are getting ridiculous, been 25min and im a healer, this need more traffic.

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As others have said, this likely has a lot to do with the time / day you are queuing. While admittedly anecdotal, I played from level 1 to Heavensward over the past month and a half (as a healer), and never once waited for more than 15 minutes on a queue.

I'd also caution against rash action based on what is, in reality, a rather small wait time. The more rewards given for the Main Scenario Roulette, the less patient people are going to be with new players - which isn't a good outcome, either. SE should be trying to strike a balance between wait times and relaxed, friendly veterans populating the DF. I'd say they've done a decent job so far. If the wait times worsen considerably (30+ minutes on average for Ifrit, say), maybe it'll be time to do something. Until then, I think a bit of judicious restraint is the right move.

Edit: Was thinking of the Leveling Roulette; removed a reference to Main Scenario Roulette being involved with WT already. I still stand by my second paragraph, though.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

It really just needs to be redesigned into a solo instance and just ultima normal in trail roullete. How people are treated in msq is ridiculous and I try to never use it.

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They just need to delete the MSQ roulette, make the 2 dungeons 4man like the facility and put it in the lvl 50 roulette.

Delete main scenario roulette and have both give 150 poetics problem solved. This way it encourages people who are farming poetics for whatever reason to do them 2 dungeons. Also remove all cutscenes and place them at the end of the dungeon.

Same with expert roulette it isn't a roulette anymore its 2 dungeons. At the very least leave the older 2 in so we have 4 or combine it all with 60 and just increase the bonus.

If they just added a daily lore reward for it people would run it more.

It's already in the WT as the 50 sticker. I run it every week as a tank.

IMO it should be made a Solo.

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Originally Posted by Derio

IMO it should be made a Solo.

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Totally agree s hould be revamped and redesigned its a mess right now

I doubt anything would make me run those again.