Please bring back chat... Image explains it all.

Chat box.

http://i.imgur.com/NDMg2X5.jpg

Edit: Fixed image names

It does explain why I don't PVP - look at that idiotic amount of buttons. Would rather poke my own eyes out.

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

It does explain why I don't PVP - look at that idiotic amount of buttons. Would rather poke my own eyes out.

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You mean the same amount of buttons for a pve healer + like 4 or 5 more?

Not sure if you realised but even with blacking out their names all over, you still forgot to do it on their characters. :P

I'm pretty sure most PvPers swap out their PvP useless abilities (especially on healer without cleric stance) for their actual PvP abilities on hotbar. Maybe that's just something I do but it feels just as natural using those abilities in PvP as it would if I wear using PvE abilities.

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Originally Posted by Praesul

You mean the same amount of buttons for a pve healer + like 4 or 5 more?

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I know, so it's no surprise I gave up healing a long time ago (which is a pity, because I quite like doing it)

You could, of course, use the spear card & the icon appearing next to the bard's information would let him know. I've experienced nothing but good things since the chat was disabled, including what seems like better team coordination without several cooks trying to stir the pot.

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

including what seems like better team coordination without several cooks trying to stir the pot.

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You're either lying or delusional.

Also, saying that someone should just be more aware does not excuse this inability to communicate.

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

I've experienced nothing but good things since the chat was disabled

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No you didn't or quoting 1 match does not mean quoting the norm

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Originally Posted by KusoWat

You're either lying or delusional.

Also, saying that someone should just be more aware does not excuse this inability to communicate.

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agreed. I had matches and so has my friend of making it hard as hack to tell people to all attack the person with the most medals. a lot of these matches was filled with "kill healer" despite having like 20 medals. "Pull back" does not stop a healer from taking my defense supplies and running to the center to give the other team a free kill, calling it "lag" (asked after the match, the person was on my server) I know how win trading works and I seen that used as an excuse before this change happened

Also I seen vast toxicity with this new system like "good job" spam for losing or being killed.

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Originally Posted by Evilsyndicatemember

Not sure if you realised but even with blacking out their names all over, you still forgot to do it on their characters. :P

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Thank you lol. Fixed it. That's what 1 AM does to me lol

The thing that really makes this picture special is that its a light party match

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Originally Posted by awesomega

The thing that really makes this picture special is that its a light party match

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Our bard is hearing impaired. So voice chat doesn't work for him.

It also doesn't make sense at all to remove chat for light party...

Still can see the BRD's name in the target bar ^^


Nvm that's fixed now too lol

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

It does explain why I don't PVP - look at that idiotic amount of buttons. Would rather poke my own eyes out.

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Why are you in the Pvp forums?

We have Enough "bring back Feast chat" Threads Already. Post on one of those.

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Originally Posted by Araxes

We have Enough "bring back Feast chat" Threads Already. Post on one of those.

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I am sure they will keep appearing till something is said by SE about it

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

No you didn't or quoting 1 match does not mean quoting the norm

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Excuse me? Were you in my matches? Have you been monitoring my account? Or are you just blatantly calling me a liar with no evidence whatsoever to back up your assumptions? That would be incredibly rude and through EXACT reason why SE removed chat - certain people's complete inability to be civil.

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

Excuse me? Were you in my matches? Have you been monitoring my account? Or are you just blatantly calling me a liar with no evidence whatsoever to back up your assumptions? That would be incredibly rude and through EXACT reason why SE removed chat - certain people's complete inability to be civil.

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Dealing with jerks is worth being able to work as a team in a team-based game. Seriously.

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

Excuse me? Were you in my matches? Have you been monitoring my account? Or are you just blatantly calling me a liar with no evidence whatsoever to back up your assumptions? That would be incredibly rude and through EXACT reason why SE removed chat - certain people's complete inability to becivil.

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I would disagree, as I think it is the receiver of the criticism that makes things snowball further then they should, and not hear the real message. Instead of trying to keep it civil, you have the nerve to say I am not and I dealt with more uncivil starts of a conversation then what I said to you that I had to deal with, while trying not to escalate it, unlike you seem to be doing. You chose to be defensive, and only go at it with me, despite someone else saying the same thing to you as I had, only with stronger words. Why did you not state the facts? How many matches you played? You never seen people trying to let the other side kill them? you never saw a person spam "attack healer" despite having like 12 medals? This system clearly does not work, and the only people parsing it are the ones that can't take any ounce of criticism, or only know of low level play. Even at the fanfest they talked about the communication and strategy, so to see this "update" to feast is mind boggling.

It is very possible to click on a subconscious level and everyone happens to have the same expectations of others, that is why a lot of times in PvE you can not have an unspoken word and be successful. Everyone knows what the other should do, but this only works at beginner and intermediate levels of play. In expert play, the other side will or should be anticipating such moves and being a lot more dynamic, throwing off these explanations. This is why you see all the higher level players, and i know for a fact there at least one on that top 100 list that is strongly against this update that speaks here on the forums. (i do not know anyone else by name, im sure there is more) Also I like to know other then by ESP taht people expect you to sleep a healer while you rush down a DPS without any form of communicating. Just because you think something appears in x way does not mean it is that way. I met a lot of people today that do not know what a PvP raise is. A lot of people are new to PvP and it might just be a more skilled group vs a lesser skilled, and has little to do with coordination, you can only quote that if you see people attempt to lead, or lead your self and see people listen or not. Having a healer able to heal though 3 people on her allowing her team to get free kills is not coordination. That is a skill gap, plain and simple. The reason I was able heal though it was from them lacking coordination. That could of been fixed by having chat *queues MLG horn*

I am not the only one reporting toxic behavior with this button chat, like spamming good job for losing, "attack healer" spam when you are trying to select the person with the most medals, people doing their own thing and not FF, people simply not fighting at all, going in as 8 dps, (gee how did we win that 7 v 8 in 1 min again?) So yeah you think people are not going to criticize you for saying "including what seems like better team coordination without several cooks trying to stir the pot." Also remember to read the line I bold again to answer the word use of "seems"

Oh that word choice without the details, yes you had the goal to have a negative conversation at the start. Welcome to talking to people that knows what is going on. The thing I find shocking is how you chose to call me out for posting to you, when someone else was way more confrontational then I was.