Natron

Hi. Please change natron back to 6 per synth or remove the effervescent water requirement and change it to mineral water. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Baxter

Hi. Please change natron back to 6 per synth or remove the effervescent water requirement and change it to mineral water. Thanks.

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Yes. The drop rate on effervescent water is pathetic and only a very few mobs drop it to begin with, and there is only a few of those few mobs. This is highly annoying. In fact, how about we just have "water" instead of muddy water, distilled water, mineral water, and effervescent water.

You can buy Natron, it's not too expensive (~1k).

I do, however, agree concerning the ingredients :I Muddy Water, Mineral Water, Distilled Water, Effervescent Water... seems a little like overkill.

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Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat

You can buy Natron, it's not too expensive (~1k).

I do, however, agree concerning the ingredients :I Muddy Water, Mineral Water, Distilled Water, Effervescent Water... seems a little like overkill.

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I just think 1k is too pricey for such a common ingredient for many crafts. I wouldn't mind they keep the price 1k, and keep the ingredient effervescent if they just changed it back to 6 per. The water is a bit of a hassle.

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Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat

You can buy Natron, it's not too expensive (~1k).

I do, however, agree concerning the ingredients :I Muddy Water, Mineral Water, Distilled Water, Effervescent Water... seems a little like overkill.

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will need natron +3 to make all the felt cloth +3 tho. While raptorskin +3 and Alument +3 are so easy to get, natron+3 shouldn't be this 100x harder.

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Originally Posted by Baxter

I just think 1k is too pricey for such a common ingredient for many crafts. I wouldn't mind they keep the price 1k, and keep the ingredient effervescent if they just changed it back to 6 per. The water is a bit of a hassle.

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I agree 1k is too much for an ingredient. I am happy to farm it, but at least make it something you can go farm.

Probably you guys already know this, but you can go killing the Assassins inside the caves of South Drybone. You can get a bunch of those if you kill regularly =)

Well... that's if you don't regret killing little smallfolks fellows.

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Originally Posted by Renshi

Probably you guys already know this, but you can go killing the Assassins inside the caves of South Drybone. You can get a bunch of those if you kill regularly =)

Well... that's if you don't regret killing little smallfolks fellows.

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Thanks for the heads up. I still think it should be changed. As it is, it's a lv 10 alchemy synth, and it has over 8 synths under the level lv 35 as an active ingredient. Some starting as low as level 4. For something fairly low, and fairly common, it's pretty expensive, and the fact they changed it to 1 yield per synth makes this a little bit more ridiculous imo.

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Originally Posted by Renshi

Probably you guys already know this, but you can go killing the Assassins inside the caves of South Drybone. You can get a bunch of those if you kill regularly =)

Well... that's if you don't regret killing little smallfolks fellows.

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Yes ty for the heads up! ~40% drop rate from what YG says, I'll check it out and see how much of a pita it is to farm from them.

Don't worry, I have absolutely no problems with killing Lalafell.

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Originally Posted by Baxter

Thanks for the heads up. I still think it should be changed. As it is, it's a lv 10 alchemy synth, and it has over 8 synths under the level lv 35 as an active ingredient. Some starting as low as level 4. For something fairly low, and fairly common, it's pretty expensive, and the fact they changed it to 1 yield per synth makes this a little bit more ridiculous imo.

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You're welcome!
Just hope that this change will be implemented with 1.20, as I think they stated further recipe changes during time. For now just hunt =)

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Originally Posted by Renshi

You're welcome!
Just hope that this change will be implemented with 1.20, as I think they stated further recipe changes during time. For now just hunt =)

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Cul and Alch changes are still to come.... hopeing this patch as well.

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Originally Posted by Renshi

Probably you guys already know this, but you can go killing the Assassins inside the caves of South Drybone. You can get a bunch of those if you kill regularly =)

Well... that's if you don't regret killing little smallfolks fellows.

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I am aware. This is the few mobs I was referring to above. They have a pretty lame drop rate.

To Baxter's point- this is a level 10 alchemy synthesis, yet the few mobs in the game that drop them are level 40'ish and typically aggro + link.

This is crap.

Yea its a pretty beat situation i will agree.

Though according to the producer letter alchemy is slated to get some recipe revamp love this coming patch hopefully the problem will be remedied

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Originally Posted by Griss

Yea its a pretty beat situation i will agree.

Though according to the producer letter alchemy is slated to get some recipe revamp love this coming patch hopefully the problem will be remedied

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Indeed, but they made Natron a ingredient for felt (weaver recipe) ..

Natron is a mineral, that has historically been acquired via a lake bed or thru mining other mineral deposits.

Seems like they could add it as a fishing reward or a mining reward. Rather than a venomtongue assassin reward.

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Originally Posted by Renshi

Well... that's if you don't regret killing little smallfolks fellows.

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Not as bad as killing the fluffy snurbles and cuddly Karakuls.

I could be wrong but I could have sworn it Effervescent Water drops from Ants?

Bah never mind they drop Formic Acid... which looks like all the other water.

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Originally Posted by Technolust

I could be wrong but I could have sworn it Effervescent Water drops from Ants?

Bah never mind they drop Formic Acid... which looks like all the other water.

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I expect they will be introducing

vitamin water
hard water
boiled water
raw water
rain water
snow water
filtered water
soft water
reverse osmosis water
deionized water
spring water
artesian water
well water
muncipal (tap) water
primordial water

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Originally Posted by captainpicard

I expect they will be introducing

vitamin water
hard water
boiled water
raw water
rain water
snow water
filtered water
soft water
reverse osmosis water
deionized water
spring water
artesian water
well water
muncipal (tap) water
primordial water

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You forgot fluoridated water, brackish water, and *fresh spring water not to be confused with spring water

They will implement Holy Water so all those waters will be inglobated into one object (Dark Matter anyone? =D)

Should just make an item called WATER.

dog water.
/10char

Just an update concerning the Lalafell camp: it's a decent spot with a decent drop rate. Run in, Warmonger, Storm's Path, get items.

After ~20 kills I've accumulated 12 NQ and 1 HQ Effervescent Waters

Edit: Seems like the Venomtongue Assasins have a better drop rate than the lower tier ones. They're in the cave area just south of the Outpost near Drybone

Hours later I have 1 stack of NQ and 12 HQ Effervescent Waters D; HNNG SO MANY DEAD LALAFELL BODIES

My work here is done...

*Disappears, laughing maliciously*

Still a lower drop rate than, say HQ Alumen and HQ skins, like said before :I I'd like a slightly better drop rate or the ability to mine it or something (if you wanna go all RL on this: Natron was originally gathered from dried-up lake beds; Ancient Egyptians mixed it with castor oil to make a smokeless fuel so that artisans could paint in the tombs of pyramids without accumulating soot on the walls THE MORE YOU KNOW).

Also, to add insult to injury, the Assassin mobs drop ridiculous amounts of Mineral Water, at the end of my farm I had almost 20 stacks...

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Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat

Also, to add insult to injury, the Assassin mobs drop ridiculous amounts of Mineral Water, at the end of my farm I had almost 20 stacks...

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What did you expect from assassins who live in Thanalan day and night without any source of water to drink from? =)

Anyway, thanks for your Story lesson, I really learned something new and useful!

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