New Cross Server PF is Intimidating

I used to pull up the PF and see, at most, 8. Usually the same people birb farming or what not. So, when I joined I knew what I was getting into.

Now, it's 40+ PF's, and most are from other servers. I'm just worried how toxic some of the parties may become because of the ambiguity.

Anyone else feel this way?

I've had some great PF groups in the past couple of days, mostly cross-server ones. No complaints here.

A little bit. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the new UI has Cross-World set as the default, and everyone's throwing their parties up there.

I feel like as the new system ages and people get used to it, more parties will rein it back a bit, and resume posting just in-world. Like with a lot of new features, there's going to be an adjustment period.

the only intimidating thing i find at the moment is the crazy amount of Zurvan EX parties there are. i'm just there looking for ones related to my Wondrous Tails

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Originally Posted by ZhaneX

A little bit. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the new UI has Cross-World set as the default, and everyone's throwing their parties up there.

I feel like as the new system ages and people get used to it, more parties will rein it back a bit, and resume posting just in-world. Like with a lot of new features, there's going to be an adjustment period.

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Why would you do that? Why would you restrict your party? You're only hurting recruitment.

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Originally Posted by dragonseth07

Why would you do that? Why would you restrict your party? You're only hurting recruitment.

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I guess someone would do that if he wants to meet and make new in-game friends to play on his server, as in looking beyond just to make a one time Pug.

Still I do no think it will go back much to the "world-only" parties.
I guess most of the Khloe, Bird Farms or equivalent might become done in cross-world, because people only care about doing a temporary objective asap,
While Raiding parties will be spread between Datacenter and World, between those who might be more inclined to look within their server in a more "static/long term" approach, and those using the cross-world PF as a kind of DF with more control.

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Originally Posted by Chocolys

I guess someone would do that if he wants to meet and make new in-game friends to play on his server, as in looking beyond just to make a one time Pug.

Still I do no think it will go back much to the "world-only" parties.
I guess most of the Khloe, Bird Farms or equivalent might become done in cross-world, because people only care about doing a temporary objective asap,
While Raiding parties will be spread between Datacenter and World, between those who might be more inclined to look within their server in a more "static/long term" approach, and those using the cross-world PF as a kind of DF with more control.

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Remember for statics that this feature isn't going away. You can form a cross-server static, now!

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Originally Posted by dragonseth07

Remember for statics that this feature isn't going away. You can form a cross-server static, now!

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Indeed, although it's not as simple because they have to use an external mean of communication, such a Discord or whatever to be practicable while planning things.

Also another disadvantage is members cannot help each other if they need help with something since they're not on same server. It's really a static with the least in-game interaction between its members. But of course that might suffice or fit the need of some raiders. So it's good it's now possible :)

Let me tell you my happy story: Got a group together to go into Zurvan Extreme -- blind. Filled relatively slowly compared to most Zurvan parties apparently (it is a rare stipulation) but everyone was nice and cuddly and polite. Two pre-existing friends gave each other a hug, I assumed we were all just getting in on it, and thus we did. No excessive frustration sounds, no blaming, etc. Someone even had to tend to a physical person who needed their aid. We were all understanding. Just put "no blaming" in the PF or something like that. Only one other person was from my server. We friended each other immediately.

Quite the opposite. Is nice to look in pf and see lots of different things to do

It's amazing. I love it. My world's PF used to have 0-1 PFs open at all times other than peak hours when we might get up to the heady heights of 4-7 PFs running at once. Now, I can actually see that it's not a single player game and there's more going on than one guy trying to RP or recruit people to kill a single A rank mob. Hurrah!

I just hope people will precise which server they are on when creating pf to sell their house :p

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Originally Posted by dragonseth07

Why would you do that? Why would you restrict your party? You're only hurting recruitment.

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Well, for one thing not all PF features are capable of being run crossworld and some people are putting PFs in crossworld that can't actually be done crossworld. Not sure how much of the clutter is because of it, but some of it is.

It's not too bad. Only thing I find slightly annoying are the people trying to hold a conversion on PF like "Hey guyzzz" or a PF that is something that you can't actually do cross server like selling stuff but is there in the cross server list anyways. At least there is a filter.

The new party finder is great for servers like Adamantoise with low population numbers, it both helps and strengthens our community. I can understand the intimidation factor, however that's what filters are there for. As far as the 20+ EX parties... that'll now exist for any new patch, and my recommendation is that you either wait a few days, or create a world party finder.

I really like it. The only frustration I have at the moment with it is parties are often filling too fast and sometimes by the time I scroll through them all to find a party I wish to join, it's been filled. It's definitely a frustration I can live with, though and as I get better at remember to properly use the filters the problem should dissipate. It's especially nice since I play somewhat late and even on Balmung in the first few hours of my night I could find plenty of PFs up before but by the last few hours before I go to bed it was often pretty devoid of anything to do.

Once people realize that you can't really sell runs to people on other servers, I imagine it will be much better.

Don't get me wrong, the diversity in the PF is nice to see, but could it start server wars? You join a party with let's say 6 people from exodus, 2 people join from ultros. Now the 2 ultros people just can't seem to do mechs. In RF there was a sense of ambiguity, now everyone will know where you're from.

Just random things I think of.

I have to respect the development team for their work trying to deal with such a culture clash getting the same things to work on both JP and non-JP server groups. PF conversations? Cross-world politics? Selling runs? Selling houses? It's like another world in every sense :s

Ours is literally just a bunch of Zurvan/WT/Alex Savage groups peppered with a few RPers having fun and occasional first timers wanting a fresh run through Haukke Manor to train their newbie friend etc. I think the most edgy thing I've ever seen in PF was a drunk person suggesting an all-night bird farm. These anecdotes are on another level.

This is one the best things to happen to the game, it's awesome seeing how busy the pf is now.

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Originally Posted by Dement

Once people realize that you can't really sell runs to people on other servers, I imagine it will be much better.

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I kind of expect that there are people who do realize that but put up crossworld PFs anyway to make sure the players on their world see their PF. Saw two PFs up yesterday advertising for the same group selling runs, one PF limited to the world, one PF in crossworld.

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Originally Posted by Serilda

I have to respect the development team for their work trying to deal with such a culture clash getting the same things to work on both JP and non-JP server groups. PF conversations? Cross-world politics? Selling runs? Selling houses? It's like another world in every sense :s

Ours is literally just a bunch of Zurvan/WT/Alex Savage groups peppered with a few RPers having fun and occasional first timers wanting a fresh run through Haukke Manor to train their newbie friend etc. I think the most edgy thing I've ever seen in PF was a drunk person suggesting an all-night bird farm. These anecdotes are on another level.

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Those are just the more common annoying ones that congest the PF. The most edgy ones I've seen on Aether are along the lines of "Join the Honey Pot Discord Server for lewd minds and lewd conversations" and things along the lines of "Adorable Lallafel looking for sexy Miqotes for sultry adventures."

I would also like to point out that not one of these came from Balmung, thank you.

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Originally Posted by dragonseth07

Remember for statics that this feature isn't going away. You can form a cross-server static, now!

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Actually, from what I can tell this isn't really possible.

You can form statics for current content since it's all in the Duty Finder... but if you intend for that static to stick together up to 4.0 when we get a new raid I don't think it will work.

You'll have to enter the new raid manually, through the open world entrance. You cant cross-server anything that requires manual entry (see: POTD).

I just want to see less advertisements that have nothing do with me. For example, Savage sales from servers that aren't my own; or advertisements for being able to craft anything in-game, again from another server; and even FC recruitments form servers also not my own.

These ads make the PF look cluttered and ugly, and sometimes I don't wanna skim through it cause it's full of junk I can't even reply to.

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Originally Posted by Jahaudant

Actually, from what I can tell this isn't really possible.

You can form statics for current content since it's all in the Duty Finder... but if you intend for that static to stick together up to 4.0 when we get a new raid I don't think it will work.

You'll have to enter the new raid manually, through the open world entrance. You cant cross-server anything that requires manual entry (see: POTD).

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They seem to be moving away from this. The Creator Savage is queued up for through Raid Finder and has been since inception.

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Originally Posted by Jahaudant

Actually, from what I can tell this isn't really possible.

You can form statics for current content since it's all in the Duty Finder... but if you intend for that static to stick together up to 4.0 when we get a new raid I don't think it will work.

You'll have to enter the new raid manually, through the open world entrance. You cant cross-server anything that requires manual entry (see: POTD).

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It'll probably be in raid finder right away so you can probably do cross server statics. (It was one of the reasons why cross PF+raid finder were implemented so people could find statics without server transferring).

Put a password on it, queue RF and go.

It's a mixed bag. Nothing too toxic yet, but plenty of people leaving groups after second wipe in learning parties. Oh, and one guy was told to off himself, but I'm not sure if that was serious.

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Originally Posted by Rennies

Oh, and one guy was told to off himself, but I'm not sure if that was serious.

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That seems pretty par for the course after 2 wipes. :p

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Originally Posted by Rennies

It's a mixed bag. Nothing too toxic yet, but plenty of people leaving groups after second wipe in learning parties. Oh, and one guy was told to off himself, but I'm not sure if that was serious.

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Pls. Real players rage quit after the first wipe.

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Originally Posted by BorisDaBlade

I used to pull up the PF and see, at most, 8. Usually the same people birb farming or what not. So, when I joined I knew what I was getting into.

Now, it's 40+ PF's, and most are from other servers. I'm just worried how toxic some of the parties may become because of the ambiguity.

Anyone else feel this way?

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welcome to balmung

Haven't seen many toxic parties in Primal. Several people in other servers were pretty helpful on many instances like Zurvan Ex and AS12. I honestly don't see anything wrong with it.

I hope they eventually let us add people to our friends list from other servers, I've met some cool people so far with cross pf.

Nothing toxic/out of the ordinary so far, just the same it used to be except with many more choices now, having a lot of fun and good runs

Are there ways to include cross-server friends into a LS or onto your friendslist? Or whisper them?