Astrologian draw issues? Or not?

Soo i notice when i use (Draw), it comes right away from my enchantment bar b4 it appears flying text (compare to previous patch in which it had some delay). As a result, it cause me to use a card when i click (spread) twice. Or when i accidentally use (redraw) ability.

I have to pay attention and patience tho...

This was announced in the patch notes in the section on how the game handles certain types of instant abilities, although admittedly they gave more focus on how it would affect ninja's mudra. It's a good change, but one to get used to.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

This was announced in the patch notes in the section on how the game handles certain types of instant abilities, although admittedly they gave more focus on how it would affect ninja's mudra. It's a good change, but one to get used to.

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Ahhh so that's why. Thanks! I haven't read that change.

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Originally Posted by DarkLink09

Ahhh so that's why. Thanks! I haven't read that change.

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Trust me, it's easy to miss since it's super vague:

http://i67.tinypic.com/33200g4.png

I haven't tested, but I'm hoping this also applies to things like Bane after a Bio where we no longer have to wait half a second before executing it.
Edit: I tested, and unfortunately a delay is still required between Bio and Bane or it misses spreading the Bio. :(

I found this very annoying (since I'm used to press the draw button twice). So i ended up almost always using the card ion the tank. To make it more like pre-patch, i made a macro. Posting it here if anyone else finds it annoying as it is now:

/micon "Draw"
/ac "Draw"
<wait.2>

there's text that tells you which card you draw? what do i have to turn on to see it, if so? i just try to guess the card by the card graphic.

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Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon

there's text that tells you which card you draw? what do i have to turn on to see it, if so? i just try to guess the card by the card graphic.

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Flying text in the main view shows this, and there's also battle text showing it. Both have options to hide or show it, although not specific to just cards. You either hide or show all flying text and/or effects on self in battle log.
http://i66.tinypic.com/2nuobbr.png
http://i64.tinypic.com/211tqub.png
http://i65.tinypic.com/faa9s5.png

It takes some getting used to, since I am also one of those that had to press Draw twice sometimes, but I like the change, just took me 3 Boles and 1 Balance on myself later to get the hang of it.

For me it's a buff.
Now, between 2 spells, I can cast Draw followed by Shuffle or Royal Road or launch the card. Before I couldn't.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

Trust me, it's easy to miss since it's super vague:

http://i67.tinypic.com/33200g4.png

I haven't tested, but I'm hoping this also applies to things like Bane after a Bio where we no longer have to wait half a second before executing it.
Edit: I tested, and unfortunately a delay is still required between Bio and Bane or it misses spreading the Bio. :(

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yeah =/ I was hoping that would fix it too.

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Originally Posted by Ceasaria

For me it's a buff.
Now, between 2 spells, I can cast Draw followed by Shuffle or Royal Road or launch the card. Before I couldn't.

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This. Love that it eliminates that previous pesky oGCD clipping. It makes Shuffle in particular a lot better to use, since before you had to wait for both the Draw animation AND the Shuffle animation to get the second card to come up.

It took me about a dungeon or so to get used to (mind you I also haven't played since like 3.2), but now that I'm more aware of it I think it's an excellent change.

Yea, I like this change. I can draw, shuffle/spread in a GCD which means I can shift more things up and it opens up new possibilities for me.

I dislike the change, because sometimes a single click of draw behaves as if I have clicked twice. I thought that it could be my mouse, but I've tested it in every other game I've been playing of late and none of them produce this kind of problem. At one point I thought that clicking draw (yes, I know, there are many of you who will balk at the fact that someone clicks anything still) and swiftly moving the mouse away was a fix to the issue, but I've since learned that the problem persists on occasion.

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Originally Posted by VanEinstein

I dislike the change, because sometimes a single click of draw behaves as if I have clicked twice. I thought that it could be my mouse, but I've tested it in every other game I've been playing of late and none of them produce this kind of problem. At one point I thought that clicking draw (yes, I know, there are many of you who will balk at the fact that someone clicks anything still) and swiftly moving the mouse away was a fix to the issue, but I've since learned that the problem persists on occasion.

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Question: Do you have your hotbar locked or unlocked? If it's unlocked then I could see this happening, since placing a skill after it has been moved will trigger the skill in some circumstances. I.e. You click it and simultaneously inadvertently move your mouse a fraction of a hairline and the skill gets clicked once, picked up, dropped back down, and triggered again. Locking the hot bar would prevent this if it is what is happening.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

Question: Do you have your hotbar locked or unlocked? If it's unlocked then I could see this happening, since placing a skill after it has been moved will trigger the skill in some circumstances. I.e. You click it and simultaneously inadvertently move your mouse a fraction of a hairline and the skill gets clicked once, picked up, dropped back down, and triggered again. Locking the hot bar would prevent this if it is what is happening.

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Yes, I have my hotbar locked. I almost wish it weren't, because then your suggestion might have been the solution I so desperately want. It might only happen to me once or twice in a dungeon, but it's still very frustrating to see cards go to waste.

Since making a macro for draw, I haven't had a problem. I use a mouseover macro for draw, so I can cast it on people without targeting them. But, this also makes it alot less likely to accidentally activate it.

And, I can still macro in discards with redraw without a problem. (I macro in redraw, followed by the commands to dismiss the drawn cards, so if redraw is on cooldown, the macro will dismiss any drawn card to start the cooldown on draw as soon as possible, but if redraw is available, it redraws the card normally)

Overall, I'm happy with the change, but it did take some getting used to.

my draw macro:
/micon Draw
/autofacetarget off
/ac "Draw" <mo>
/autofacetarget on

my redraw macro:
/micon Redraw
/ac "Redraw" <me>
/statusoff "Bole Drawn"
/statusoff "Spire Drawn"
/statusoff "Ewer Drawn"
/statusoff "Spear Drawn"
/statusoff "Arrow Drawn"
/statusoff "Balance Drawn"

I love this new stuff, so I can do everything so fast without delay anymore.

Wait you guys are really using macros for this simple spell ? O_O

Why ?

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Originally Posted by Watachy

Wait you guys are really using macros for this simple spell ? O_O

Why ?

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Utility. Macros are a great thing. Honestly, if SE would give us a REAL macro system instead of this intentionally bad thing we have now, macros would be everywhere.