Thank you, ability/trait/spell reform [1206]

Just a general thanks to all the devs for putting in so much work to redo all the class/job abilities, spells, traits. Already I can see clear defined roles for each discipline and a lot less clutter with nonsense skills. This could not have been an easy task to essentially redo everything from scratch and build from the ground up but I think the preliminary design looks like a home run. This gives me the confidence I was looking for 1.20 to bring especially considering P2P is coming soon.

Im super excited about the reform cant wait to start comboing it up especially with jobs, thanks Yoshi and team!

Agreed the list looks nice. We now have more defined classes not skills for everything on everything.

Now can we get some Names on that list ^^^^^^^

i bet I know what this one is XD

DRG Abl. 1
Performs a jumping attack on the target.

BLM gets Convert. Nice.

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Originally Posted by Krausus

i bet I know what this one is XD

DRG Abl. 1
Performs a jumping attack on the target.

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Aye, I wonder how that one will be called!. Hmmm...

Waiting to become a bard sure is a long way still, I'm so excited! xD
Thank you very much for all the hard work devs!

Can we just get the ability switch now? I can't wait another month D:

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

Can we just get the ability switch now? I can't wait another month D:

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I know right lol, waiting on Dragoon and White Mage is gonna be killer

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Originally Posted by Krausus

I know right lol, waiting on Dragoon and White Mage is gonna be killer

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I'm looking forward to the ability changes... the job system is entirely too far away!

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Originally Posted by Holland

Aye, I wonder how that one will be called!. Hmmm...

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Doomspike II

Finally Pugilist/Monk will pwn! And will be able to kick some NM asses hahaha :p

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Originally Posted by Krausus

i bet I know what this one is XD

DRG Abl. 1
Performs a jumping attack on the target.

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Durr... Leap!

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Originally Posted by Alkoun

Durr... Leap!

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Hahahaha, that would be so much trolling on SE's part.

Exploring and playing with these "new" classes should be a lot of fun and keep us busy for a while.

I was thinking on waiting for 1.21 at least to start paying to play (I would prolly have paid to play now anyway, but still considered), but now I sure won't.

Thank you SE, looking forward to it.



<3 Tachi

Hi tachikoma,

Well said. :) I'm really looking forward to all the changes as well. This sums up my thoughts from the previous (now turned flame thread) on Class Reforms today -

THANK YOU! Yoshida-san and the Final Fantasy XIV Battle Team! :)

Now THIS is what I was hoping we'd see with Class Reforms and the debut of the Job System! (^_^)

All the classes / jobs sound *unique* now, and have interesting characteristics, especially with the Combo Potential of tacking on attack after attack.

Paladin sounds amazing! :) Especially these... Abl. 3 sounds like a mini-version of Invincible (but just vs. Melee).

• PLD Abl. 3 Grants imperviousness to melee attacks. Effect fades upon moving.
• PLD Mag. 1 Restores target's HP. When cast on another player, restores 50% of their HP in addition to a portion of your own.
• GLD WS 8 - Self AoE Increases enmity of all enemies within range. Can only be used immediately after blocking an attack.

Marauder / Warrior sounds like a beast! :) Especially this:

• WAR Abl. 4 Self AoE Increases the maximum HP and attack power of all party members within range, and removes any Sleep effects. Stuns all enemies within range.

Pugilist / Monk sounds like a really fun, directional / positional, combo character. :)

Lancer / Dragoon sounds like Critical Damage Incarnate. :) I really look forward to the insane Critical Damage it can do in those Combo Chains. They sound really impressive and... they can "breathe" Fire potentially. :)

Archer / Bard sounds really cool also. Support Songs from Bard, but also the ability to deal some good Ranged, Spike Damage (offense) via Archer WS. I can definitely see some potential and *teamwork* involved with using different classes, like having these Bard Songs running to help the low Accuracy of Dragoon:

• BRD Mag. 2 Gradually increases the TP of all party members within range.
• BRD Mag. 3 Increases the physical and magic accuracy of all party members within range.

Conjurer / White Mage sounds pretty fun also. This is the one I was most keenly watching. It sounds like we get a Mini-Benediction (2 Hour-like) ability!

• WHM Abl. 2 Instantly restores HP of all party members.

And I really like how they gave White Mage / Conjurer some offensive capabilities. This last Spell sounds *amazing* if done right. :)

• WHM Mag. 3 Consumes all MP to deal damage to all enemies within range. Chance to inflict Bind.

I wonder where Shell is though?

I think the only one I have some issue with is Thaumaturge / Black Mage. There are some redundancies here that I hope are a typo, or will be changed. For example:

• Why does Conjurer *and* Thaumaturge have Sleep Spell? It doesn't make sense, IMO. I guess it's to help solo mages in the field? But I'd like to see Sleep be on Conjurer only (but can be cross-mapped).
• As viion mentioned, it seems BLM is missing Water Element (even though the description says they're the master of all 6 Elements).

This Combo Chain sounds AMAZING though! :)

• THM Mag. 5 Deals fire damage to all enemies within range of the target.
• ∟THM Mag. 6 Deals fire damage to all enemies within range of the target.Combo: THM Magic 5, Bonus: Reduced cast time.
• 　∟THM Mag. 7 Deals fire damage to all enemies within range of the target.Combo: THM Magic 6, Bonus: Reduced cast time.

I can't wait to see what it looks like with Final Visual FX changes! Sounds like a Fire Storm of Destruction! :)

Overall, I haven't been so excited about Final Fantasy XIV since playing Dzemael for the first time (before figuring out the easy strategies).

There's so much potential here, and it sounds like a good foundation for what people will be doing day in and day out (core combat).

Now I hope the new Skillchain / Battle Regimen 2.0 Combo System (for all party members contributing) can tie this all together. :)

(And what's cool is that we don't even have the Traits List yet! So there should be more interesting additions there.)

Keep up the good work Yoshida-san! :)

hey the list is looking pretty good^^, the only thing that threw me off a bit was the spell distribution between the mages, i guess since my cnj is max already i will still be able to use most elements on my thm when i level it further so its ok. and im glad i chose mrd as my physical job, the new abillities sound sweet

CNJ gets Sublimation. I nearly shat my pants with joy. (Don't ask)

Yeah agree with OP, I am in love with the changes! Have so much faith in Yoshi-P team to make this game amazing :D

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Originally Posted by Kiara

Paladin sounds amazing! :) Especially these... Abl. 3 sounds like a mini-version of Invincible (but just vs. Melee).

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FYI, Invincible didn't protect against magical attacks in FF11 either, unless it was something they changed in WotG. (I didn't play it)

I can't wait to try out the changes!

Sounds like we will have true roles now yay. Way to go devs.

I agree - good looks on the class reforms so far!

CLASS IDENTITY

I'm especially loving all the party-related abilities and AoE WSs that have chance of landing enfeebling effects; every job is going to be able to bring something unique to their team.

I'm on the fence about the changes, and I will still take a wait and see approach, but obviously the classes needed a major overhaul, and I'm glad to see that. I do enjoy the removal of clutter and useless skills and a more focused set of skills that doesn't require us to jam up our action bar with a billion things because they are absolutely essential (i.e. using up a total of 3-4 action slots for attack buffs, etc)

I still wish Traits were cross-class, as I did like equipping useful stuff like Intimidate and Fleet of Foot on my GLA.

Considering some traits though it is odd how they are going the onry your class route. There were traits like axmanship and such that seemed to be made for other classes rather then the class itself so odds are the traits we know of now may change for the most part. Though perhaps as with everything things can change.

Personally I would like it if perhaps they could go the same route with traits as they are doing with the 15/10 ability ratio. It would be nice if maybe have 12 traits and then 3 additional ones of our own choosing, and like with classes perhaps 7/12 are class only while the other 5 can be used on any class. But I can respect that they want to work on balancing everything first so if that means making traits class only I can respect that, since the changes they are making to abilities alone must be quite the overwhelming feat. Just looking at the list today I felt overwhelmed by the information given, it's just crazy to see how they modified each one lol. It'll be nice once they confirm it though and we get the actual name of abilities, if there was one thing I was dissapointed about it was how the names were nameless lol.

The list does look like it will make gameplay pretty fun. Some great ideas in there. Need to make sure they give people an option to swap to the other mage if they don't like where their character is headed.