what do you guys think about gender tabs, of course it being optional

So I know I prob have a couple of post up already ha on here but I have wondered this for a while. So I and I believe many other guys that play mmos like making female characters because why not. Ha its nice creating a nice pretty women that can fight the realm ha. The problem with this is sometimes your assumed to be a girl in rl, or you get hit on in game haha which is why I always do flame salute to people its a neutral way of saying hi. So Im just do you think a gender tab would be a good idea like kinda like the new rp icon that came with a recent patch. Something like w for women in real life and m for male in real life and it just be totally optional. But I for one wouldn't mind it at all jw what you guys think about it and if you have been hit on by a gender you may not wanna be hit on by if you think something like this would help. I don't mean to post this as anything offensive just wondering if you guys think it would be a nice little feature

Why not just write that in your player search info? Doesn't need its own feature if you ask me.

I will say this though, I probably can't judge this request without it getting personal, as I think it's well past the point where dudes need to realise how women are treated all the time. Guys wanna make a female character because "girls are much hotter"? Well... turns out that other dude thinks your character is hot stuff as well, you seem to have so much in common. Guys who make female characters for any other reason? Tough shit man... I'd say at least you can see it as a learning experience.

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Originally Posted by Konungarike

Why not just write that in your player search info? Doesn't need its own feature if you ask me.

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Well i wasn't trying to be sexiest are anything and I do realize that some people would totally be agaisnt this , that's why I said optional , I mean I dont think Ive honestly seen one person that had their gender in their search info. I don't see why if you are ok with it stating your gender would be a bad thing , at all I wasnt tryin to be mean or upset anyone are downplay wat real life women have to go through in life. I just think it would be nice to have as an option because not everyone looks at search info either

I actually run into the opposite issue--female avatars of certain races are frequently assumed to be played by men. As a female Au Ra or a formally a Miqo'te at least half the time I get called "he". It is an MMO these things happen. It doesn't bother me but I do normally correct (or am corrected by) FC and social LS members and that's that. As for a gender tab people can use more than just he/she for their pronouns so I think it is just simpler to correct someone if it is bugging you then to expect SE to be aware enough to include gender-neutral ones. There was months of debate over Eternal Bonding and SE still ended up skating by the issue. Some people also have nameplates turned off so they might not see an icon.

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Originally Posted by Naria

I actually run into the opposite issue female avatars of certain races are frequently assumed to be played by men. As a female Au Ra or a formally a Miqo'te at least half the time I get called "he". It is an MMO these things happen. It doesn't bother me but I do normally correct (or am corrected by) FC and social LS members and that's that. As for a gender tab people can use more than just he/she for their pronouns so I think it is just simpler to correct someone if it is bugging you. Some people also have nameplates turned off so they might not see an icon.

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I was just gona say that actually cause Im sure that women in game prob get called dude or guy or something of the sort all the time so it goes both ways. But I still dont know why the idea of something optional like this would be a bad one exactly.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

Well i wasn't trying to be sexiest are anything and I do realize that some people would totally be agaisnt this , that's why I said optional

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People aren't worried about it being mandatory, nor is it particularly offensive, people are worried about development resources being wasted on something that is already solvable within the game already.

Also, this actually does the opposite of solve your problems, putting a big W next to your name is like painting a target on your head :P

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

People aren't worried about it being mandatory, nor is it particularly offensive, people are worried about development resources being wasted on something that is already solvable within the game already.

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why is everything about developmental issues and funding like did you not see all the pumpkins in the game for halloween and how they put a haunted house event in the game, Like Im sure puttin rp by ur name didnt cost a whole lot of money. And that was something that was just added little things matter , I dont understand why people dont think they do exactly

I was editing my post a bit to clarify why I think it would be complected so I apologize--but basically gender-pronouns aren't a simple thing, and I don't expect that SE will recognize or accommodate that. It is also not an issue in Japanese as pronouns are almost never used.

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

Also, this actually does the opposite of solve your problems, putting a big W next to your name is like painting a target on your head :P

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Not wanting to single out female players is why we don't have in game voice chat as well.

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Originally Posted by Naria

I was editing my post a bit to clarify why I think it would be complected so I apologize--but basically gender-pronouns aren't a simple thing, and I don't expect that SE will recognize or accommodate that. It is also not an issue in Japanese as pronouns are almost never used.


Not wanting to single out female players is why we don't have in game voice chat as well.

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I can totally understand the points you guys are making I guess for me , I wouldnt mind people knowing I was male , so thats why I said optional. I just figured it would be a nice way to let others no without having to correct people all the time. And as far as the women in the game they just wouldnt have to use such feature at all unless they wanted, its more so id say for guys because alot of guys make female characters, and I dont really see any putting hey im a guy in their search info.

I take it OP has never been harassed by other players, like Lambdafish said, your essentially putting a target on yourself, why would anyone want that.

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Originally Posted by Naria

As for a gender tab people can use more than just he/she for their pronouns so I think it is just simpler to correct someone if it is bugging you then to expect SE to be aware enough to include gender-neutral ones. There was months of debate over Eternal Bonding and SE still ended up skating by the issue.

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Yeah I agree with you. From SE's track record of gendered glamours and emotes (Emotes? Really? My character's presumed vagina prohibits her from making the same DRG poses as the men do??) to the Eternal Bonding it's obvious they would never handle a gender-related feature well.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

why is everything about developmental issues and funding like did you not see all the pumpkins in the game for halloween and how they put a haunted house event in the game, Like Im sure puttin rp by ur name didnt cost a whole lot of money. And that was something that was just added little things matter , I dont understand why people dont think they do exactly

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Because this is an MMO, one with a team and budget too small (for now) for the scope of the game. The community picks and chooses which issues are best for the current state of the game. I myself look at things from a game design perspective, and it's my natural instinct to look at resource management and wonder how it would be implemented. You are right that it would not take much time and effort, but it does take SOME time and effort, which is time and effort that could have been spent on other more important issues on this game. This is going to sound more harsh than I mean it to, but this proposed feature adds nothing to the game, and as I pointed out, only causes problems, so why waste the resources (no matter how minor)?

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

I don't see why if you are ok with it stating your gender would be a bad thing

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It isn't necessarily a bad thing exactly, but it's not a very relevant thing either. Why should anyone in game care what your gender is IRL? And why would you care whether they know it or not? It's like asking why we don't have a special feature in game to tell everyone what your real life hair color is.

As for pronouns, I'll generally address anyone in game with pronouns suiting the gender of their character. When role-playing, that would be the proper form to use anyway, and when not role-playing, it doesn't really matter. Either works. (I'm a woman in real life, and while I have alts of both genders, my main character is male, so when playing him it seems perfectly natural that I get referred to as "he".)

As for anyone hitting on you in-game, that doesn't have anything to do with your real-life gender either. It's your character, not your real-life self, that they're hitting on, so just treat it as role-playing. Decide how your character would react to them, and respond accordingly.

Honestly I don't care what people think of me. If I get to know them well enough they'll find out anyway. I've only ever had...one...I think? person guess my real gender before I told them and it was due to the way I type (which was actually very interesting... I'd like to read more studies on this)
Besides I play as male avatars in games like this since I really DON'T want people talking to me (yet people hit on Aeon a lot.....okaaaay). Of course like in all games my female characters get much more attention. I just want to overall be left alone, though.

If it's optional and as simple as adding a line of code (hint: it's not but let's pretend) then I'd be like, sure, go for it IDC. I wouldn't use it.

While I totally get most points , I just didnt think it such a hassle type idea, ha just simply people are here to play a game ha not to have someone try to get at your character hah