Feast season 3 points system is dump

You can lose and lose and lose and lose and your rating barely drops at all? Is this how it is suppose to be? So as long as you keep on playing the more wins you get the higher your rating will be with no fear of loosing matches and loosing ratings? I don't get it. It makes anyone with incredibly low win ratio able to climb high in the rankings.

It SEEMS that it rewards matches played much more than previous seasons, but I'm still in silver so I don't know if anything changes when you get up to gold. I haven't had much time to play this season...

How many points do you lose with losses in Gold, Platinum and Diamond? Cause Silver and Bronze don't matter who cares how many points you lose in that tier.

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

How many points do you lose with losses in Gold, Platinum and Diamond? Cause Silver and Bronze don't matter who cares how many points you lose in that tier.

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Gold is between -12 and -17

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Originally Posted by FreeKingStefan

Gold is between -12 and -17

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So it takes about 2 losses to cancel out one win then?

It's like a 45% winrate to get to platinum now.. so platinums this season will be the silver/bronze players of S1 and S2... Which is hilarious!

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

How many points do you lose with losses in Gold, Platinum and Diamond? Cause Silver and Bronze don't matter who cares how many points you lose in that tier.

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It seems to be like this:

Unranked - 0
Bronze - 5
Silver - 10
Gold - 15
Platinum - Probably 20 (no Platinums at time of post)
Diamond - 25 (No more mitigating losses)

I'd expect to see 3k - 3.5k rated players this season. S1 and S2 you'd start to get hit with -25 starting at Gold. In S1 we saw 2.4k+ rated players, which is 1500 rating above that threshold. This is assuming that Diamond is at 2k rating, which again nobody knows for sure yet since there are 0 plats at time of posting.

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Originally Posted by Koltik

It seems to be like this:

Unranked - 0
Bronze - 5
Silver - 10
Gold - 15
Platinum - Probably 20 (no Platinums at time of post)
Diamond - 25 (No more mitigating losses)

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Wow so Platinum is the new season 1 version of Gold tier. Only Diamond tier means anything really now. But I guess as long as they keep the top 2 tiers at -20 and higher for losses it's not a big deal since those are the tiers that are actually supposed to matter. Also as long as platinum and diamonds are not being matched up with unranked, bronze, silvers in matches anymore to screw up the point differentials this might not actually be a bad thing. The gatekeeper tier merely moved from gold to platinum.

The patch notes said diamond did not get reduced. I believe it is between -25 and -32 depending on matchmaking. This is based off a conversation I had with a season 1 diamond player.

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Originally Posted by TiramisuMacaron

It's like a 45% winrate to get to platinum now.. so platinums this season will be the silver/bronze players of S1 and S2... Which is hilarious!

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hmm not really more like the current platin is like season 1 gold even tho I dont think much will change I bet the leaderboard will still be mostly gold.

so far i see players on top 100 has +200 + 300 +400 on daily basis since first day of season 3. only 1 or 2 players get - points. Rating is so forgiving this season which give chance to people who play more matches climb faster regardless of losing matches in the process.. there is not as much risk as season 1 and season 2 from bronze to gold. Almost no one can reach diamond in the past seasons cuz most players afk at plat and gold and not willing to risk rating. i think that is the reason for SE nerfing rating lose for lost matches. I expect by the end of season 3, top 100 will look like this ( top 7 - 10 diamonds / 30 plats / rest is golds ).

At the end of the day, the guy standing next to ya in Ishgard aint gonna give a fart whether yer silver, platinum, or plad with neon stripes. SE found a way to encourage more ppl to play, even if a little longer w/o so much fear of horribly dropping in rank. All these complaints I hear about ranking no longer holding meaning til gold, etc are laughable, cuz with s1 and 2's matchings, it didnt even then when it was worse, just the luck of the draw.

Less stress + a free rare never to be seen again mount. "No! My struggle must mean something!" ...yeaaah.

I'm not really sure if I'm understanding the problem is here ...

Diamond was damn close to being a spotted unicorn in the last two seasons. Almost no one made it there, and people were complaining that it was a nearly un-achievable rank. So wouldn't reducing the point reduction for losses be a good thing? People also complained that being slotted into matches with new/unranked players was FAR too punishing, hence top-tier players would simply drop out of Feast as soon as they got high enough in rank. So ... again, wouldn't reducing the point reduction for losses be a good thing? It's also not as though the bottom level players will suddenly be threatening the top-ranked ones. The best of the best are still going to pull ahead of the pack. In fact, this new system would only seem to make that easier on them because they won't be punished nearly has hard for playing with new people. I mean, sure, the win rate for getting into silver/gold/platinum is lower ... but so what? The average win rate for the last two seasons of the top 100 scaled anywhere between 40-60% That's not exactly impressive to begin with, so I really don't see how this change really makes a difference. The top will still be the top, and the bottom will still be the bottom. Changing the point scaling might just make the difference between the two a little clearer.

Meh, just makes your actual rank, not tier matter that much more.