Demolition This Week (?)

I have heard from some friends that demolition is supposed to happen on the 4th, 5th or 6th but I can't find any information about this at all.

Does anyone know when it's actually happening? I don't fancy having to camp the aetheryte for three days straight.

45 days after 3.4 are the best guesses

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Originally Posted by Legion88

45 days after 3.4 are the best guesses

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So that would actually be the 10th?

How do I even know demolition is actually going to happen? Do SE announce it somewhere and I'm just too dim to find it, or is it just speculation?

Demolitions have been happening already. The clock just started again at 3.4 so any house that accumulated time before it was stopped still had that.

Demolitions are not announced anywhere, the houses just get destroyed and you have to be lucky enough to get there first. Your best chance is to check the wards regularly.

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Originally Posted by Genaxx

Demolitions have been happening already. The clock just started again at 3.4 so any house that accumulated time before it was stopped still had that.

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So demolition is an on-going thing? I was under the impression that the 45 day countdown only happened after certain days, such as major patch days for example. I have a friend who hasn't logged into his house in well over 45 days and it hasn't been demolished.

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Originally Posted by Genaxx

Demolitions are not announced anywhere, the houses just get destroyed and you have to be lucky enough to get there first. Your best chance is to check the wards regularly.

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So basically it's hopeless unless you can camp the aetheryte. I can't spend my entire life online : /

Its always ment to be active however it was suspended because of an earthquake.

Think of it as an idle timer that starts from when the house was last accessed by the owner / fc members for an fc house.

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Originally Posted by Genaxx

Its always ment to be active however it was suspended because of an earthquake.

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Ah, I see. So it was ongoing, then it was delayed, and it will be ongoing again. Thanks for this.

It's a day or so around the 10th as it's offset by maintenance as well. No one but Square knows the exact time for the release of the inactive plots. Since the timer was just suspended and not reset however, there are some plots that are getting demolished before the ones from the last land rush. I'd be a bit more vigilant about looking for a plot around the 10th-12th if you haven't found something before then, but just keep checking everytime you teleport into one of the major cities and hopefully you catch one listed (it'll show up as a white price tag instead of a red or blue name next to the plot number).

See above... If you are specifically hoping to find plots that are opening up from people that bought during the release of 3.4 and then didn't ever use them, they should start being relinquished around the 11th.

Houses have already been turning over at a pretty steady clip, on Exodus. You just have to go check the aetherites every so often, and you may be surprised what turns up. JUST casually checking over the course of a week, Ives een five open, in all sizes.

Does anyone know if patches and maintenance times also affect the 45 day period after 3.4? There's been around 5 or 6 maintenances, that is a pretty hefty amount of time.

Also does anyone know if you are inside the map of the house that gets demolished, does it get destroyed in front of your very eyes and is available for immediate purchase, or do you have to, like, reload the map to see it?

Only Square knows if they've changed it and they've not given us any indication as such. It should just return to a plot of land with a red ground marker where the house will go instantly when the house is demolished (that's how it worked around x-mas when I was plot camping). Make sure you're standing by the placard when the house disappears as that's what you purchase the plot from.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

So demolition is an on-going thing?

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It's ongoing, and under normal circumstances would provide a trickle of an occasional house or two opening up at virtually any time (based on whenever the previous owner had last used it). But because that process had been suspended for over five months (April - September), all the houses that were abandoned during that time will be released 45 days (possibly adjusted for maintenance time?) from the time it started up again. That's why a bunch are expected to open up at once around the 10th or 11th.

I wish you luck with getting a nice one. (I managed to snag a perfect spot for my FC house last time new wards were released. :))

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Originally Posted by Legion88

45 days after 3.4 are the best guesses

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The timer was only ever paused, not reset, no?
I've already seen houses go up for sale.

There are a lot of factors for when people that had been in their house prior to 3.4 (when the auto-demolish was stopped) and had a full 45-days on them. I'd assume Friday morning at the earliest, yet with all the maintenance, it is quite possible that it is more like Sunday. We don't even know when they actually begin the timer again. It is from when the server comes up? When players can log in? It is too much to guess. But, I'd put even money on Sunday.

I also heard it about. If I didnt calculate wrong, it should of been today (11th Nov). But Im not seeing any free plots yet... Either Im to late or it hasnt started yet. :/

Don't you have to count maintenance days too?

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Originally Posted by RRegain

Don't you have to count maintenance days too?

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Yes you have to! I just found out.

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Days related to maintenance, server outages, or other times when the server is not operational (“Maintenance Events”) do not count towards the total inactivity time period. As a result, the actual removal date may be subject to delay due to such Maintenance Events. (The removal will never occur before the aforementioned Removal Date.)

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It's happened!

All gone in seconds... Probably to people who have multiple on their account already or who will try to sell them for triple price in coming weeks. When is SE going to fix this broken system and at least make it look like it's pretending to be fair? Their continued incompetence on this issue is past the point of tolerable.

I've been watching some houses since 3.4 and they have still not been demolished. These owners have been inactive since April- June. What's up with that?

There's still quite a few that appear to have had no activity, but apparently have. I know one of my goblet gardening stops has 3 surrounding houses with nothing but an aetheryte crystal outside. Two are personally owned so they're not for airships and no gardens outside so apparently they're just holding on to them for the heck of it?

My friend heard you can plead to SE for an extension...
I know for a fact that one person in my server has gone inactive for more than two months yet their house is still there....

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Originally Posted by Asheloux

My friend heard you can plead to SE for an extension...
I know for a fact that one person in my server has gone inactive for more than two months yet their house is still there....

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Do you know how this extension works? I hope never happens, but If I have to leave the game for a while is nice to have some sort of back up plan for my new-purchased house.

Nope, no idea.

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Originally Posted by Asheloux

My friend heard you can plead to SE for an extension...

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I'm not SE, but I seriously doubt there's any such thing (people would scream favouritism!) and first I've personally heard of it and I try and follow all things housing related. My guess is a misunderstanding of how the demolition timers work.

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Originally Posted by Asheloux

I know for a fact that one person in my server has gone inactive for more than two months yet their house is still there....

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Either it's an FC house (in which case any member can reset the timer) or they have logged on if only just to walk inside the house/reset timer and log back out again. It's been 45 days since the timer was turned back on so if they have been gone 60+ days, it would have demolished if it wasn't reset.

Update! At 1pm ct houses have been demolished, a handful too. I got my house :)

Yup, a bunch went boom on Diabolos. One of my FC members that has been stalking the one between me and the FC mansion is at work and missed it. My heart sunk for him. FC leader bought it up though so at least it's in the family.

FYI if you leave yourself afk inside a house that's set for auto demolish the system DC's you and demolishes it anyway. We knew that house was going to go and thought that we could save it by putting his character in it and leaving it there. Seems SE thought that one out.

I heard Gilgamesh houses that went up was gone under five minutes, Anyone know how true this is? I was at work

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Originally Posted by RayneLittlewinkle

I heard Gilgamesh houses that went up was gone under five minutes, Anyone know how true this is? I was at work

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It seems Both Gilgamesh and Balmung houses were gone in 5 minutes, the Aether Datacenter seems to be all synq.

I could not buy any mansions, all those I was watching, none was demolished...being that their owners have not entered since July, others since September and one since more than a year!

I think they should already put ads in each house that is going to demolish automatically so that the other people know :/

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Originally Posted by Yasmina

I could not buy any mansions, all those I was watching, none was demolished...being that their owners have not entered since July, others since September and one since more than a year!

I think they should already put ads in each house that is going to demolish automatically so that the other people know :/

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Sounds like one of those cases of the owners darting in to save their home ownership while not actually playing. I'm hoping the new wards they're making have a much higher number of large plots if they aren't completely instanced (outside & inside single house). The competition for mansions is getting rather intense (although on most servers just getting any house can be a problem).

Man it was an exciting feeding frenzy Friday on Diabolos. All wards had plenty of demos, the Goblet being the open the most. Mist was sold out that night, Lavender took well into Saturday and as of this morning I think there are still some smalls in Goblet. IMO this server has about the right population housing wise. If you wanted one there was plenty opportunity to get one but at the same time there aren't vacant wards for months. Apartments are nowhere near full.

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Originally Posted by OliviaJ

Man it was an exciting feeding frenzy Friday on Diabolos. All wards had plenty of demos, the Goblet being the open the most. Mist was sold out that night, Lavender took well into Saturday and as of this morning I think there are still some smalls in Goblet. IMO this server has about the right population housing wise. If you wanted one there was plenty opportunity to get one but at the same time there aren't vacant wards for months. Apartments are nowhere near full.

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The goblet is usually the last to sell out of Sargatanas as well. It would be really nice if they added a lush oasis feel to the view as well. If you look at the artwork for the goblet it looks stunning viewing it as a whole from above, but when you're in the goblet your view tends to be more of the other houses and a lot of beige rocks/bricks. Get some waterfalls and vegetation to the sides! :D

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

The goblet is usually the last to sell out of Sargatanas as well. It would be really nice if they added a lush oasis feel to the view as well. If you look at the artwork for the goblet it looks stunning viewing it as a whole from above, but when you're in the goblet your view tends to be more of the other houses and a lot of beige rocks/bricks. Get some waterfalls and vegetation to the sides! :D

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For sure. There was a medium on the floor right next to the waterfall that would be pretty decent. So many bad plots in there though. There isn't anything to really look at on the borders and a good portion as you've stated are just staring at another house. Mist got it right, although clear weather in the day can be very...white. Lavender has a lot of good views but also tree blocked.

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Originally Posted by Yasmina

I think they should already put ads in each house that is going to demolish automatically so that the other people know :/

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The way the demolition system is currently set up, there's no way for the system to know in advance which houses will be demolished. In order to identify the plots about to be back up for sale, there would have to be a delay added in. In that scenario: on one date, the previous owner would lose the house and it's demolished, and several days later, the plot would go back up for sale. That would allow the system to identify the date it'll be available during that interval in between. (Perhaps in the housing/wards window where it currently says either the owner or price, it could have a date or countdown timer for plots neither owned nor for sale, but identifying when they will be for sale.)

Having such a delay, not only on abandoned reclaimed plots, but also relinquished ones, would also put an end to the house selling (and associated hoarding) that isn't supposed to be allowed (but many people seem to get away with). People aren't likely to pay someone to know when a house is relinquished, if that same information is given to everyone on the server who cares to look.

Some people might be annoyed by the extra delay, or by forcing plots to remain empty for a while on a server where they're in demand, but I think the pros would outweigh the cons.

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

I'm hoping the new wards they're making have a much higher number of large plots if they aren't completely instanced (outside & inside single house). The competition for mansions is getting rather intense (although on most servers just getting any house can be a problem).

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I remember when the housing system first came out, it was the small ones that were the most in demand and selling out way too fast. I guess several patches and an expansion later, the economy has grown enough that a lot more players can afford the large ones, so demand has shifted upwards. Hopefully SE will take that fact into account when designing the new housing area.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

I remember when the housing system first came out, it was the small ones that were the most in demand and selling out way too fast. I guess several patches and an expansion later, the economy has grown enough that a lot more players can afford the large ones, so demand has shifted upwards. Hopefully SE will take that fact into account when designing the new housing area.

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It was three things really. First, lot prices dropped to within reach of more players from the original prices. Second, once all those were bought up there was a long period of time where players had nothing to spend gil on so they hoarded it (as you've stated). Third, and I don't agree with this one, they dropped the price of housing to be easily within reach. Personally I could easily hoard about a dozen smalls at the current price. That's just dumb.

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Originally Posted by OliviaJ

they dropped the price of housing

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Well, they standardized the price of housing across servers, so on some servers that was a drop, while on other servers it was raised. (And on mid-tier servers like mine, it didn't change much.)

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

Well, they standardized the price of housing across servers, so on some servers that was a drop, while on other servers it was raised. (And on mid-tier servers like mine, it didn't change much.)

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Ah, thanks for the correction. I guess what I was trying to get across was that lowering the price (at least on my server) did nothing to solve any "shortage". There really isn't that much of one though as long as the timer is running. People come and go and if you are on the hunt you find one.