Just double checking. Up to this point, I've been thinking it's an expansion, but a friend of mine is saying it's just a major update. Which is it?
Is Stormblood an expansion or a Major update?
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10-29-2016, 11:40 PMBigcat9715Is Stormblood an expansion or a Major update?
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10-29-2016, 11:41 PMbounddreamer
It's an expansion.
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10-29-2016, 11:42 PMDumbledoremd
Serious question or you a troll ?
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10-29-2016, 11:42 PMSigmar_Heldenhammer
It's an expansion that brings with it major updates.
Everyone's a winner. -
10-29-2016, 11:52 PMBigcat9715Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by bounddreamer
It was serious question. I guess in his mind he thought it was going to be like the 2.4 patch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumbledoremd
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10-30-2016, 12:07 AMRiardon
It's both. Stormblood = version 4.0 of the game = called Expansion because it is a big update with loads of content = Major Update
3.4 3.5 are smaller updates called Patches (they also have new content but not as much as an expansion.) -
10-30-2016, 04:43 AMAmetrine
It's an expansion. Also worth adding that despite being a patch, you will have to buy it the same as with Heavensward, and will get all 4.0 related content with your sub from then on.
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10-30-2016, 06:10 AMIndiction
It's somewhat classifies as both. Stormblood is going to be an expansion, but an expansion is really only a major (major) update. The only differentiation between the terms 'expansion' and 'major update' are that, major updates are not something you have to buy/pay for here at FFXIV. Expansions however, make you pay for the content you're receiving, but it brings a lot more with it than a simple major update would.
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10-30-2016, 08:38 AMKnahliSome people tried to equate Heavensward to a "big patch" and saying it wasn't deserving of being called an "expansion" so he likely thought that your post was a passive-aggressive reference to the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigcat9715
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10-30-2016, 09:18 AMMugiawara
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10-30-2016, 10:25 AMalimdiaIt depends how people look at it, there's a line of thought that thinks an expansion is just 3.0 and 3.1 to 3.5 are free content updates, while another thinks that 3.1 to 3.5 are part of the expansion (and paid for with the purchase of the expansion), but with a staggered release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knahli
People who follow the first line of thought aren't wrong that 3.0 by itself can barely be called a full game, so the second one makes the most sense for me. -
10-30-2016, 10:30 AMCanadaneYeah I've always thought if like the second group.Quote:
Originally Posted by alimdia
Heavensward isn't over yet. And someone new coming to 2.0 while we're all on 4.0 may purchase Heavensward and they'll get quite a bit of content with that purchase. -
10-30-2016, 10:47 AMLexiaI would consider it more of the first group, and that the $14.99 a month is what pays for the patches. Now I don't play any of the f2p games but I would imagine you don't get new patches every 3 months in f2p games like you do here in XIV.Quote:
Originally Posted by alimdia
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10-30-2016, 11:02 AMalimdiaThat is correct, f2p games patch every month instead of 3-4 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lexia
My main argument against "sub pays for content updates" is that if you join the game now you won't be paying $45 per each update you missed, but you do have to buy the expansion, so it makes more sense that the cost of updates is being included with the expansion. -
10-30-2016, 11:14 AMAlexander_DragonfangThat a game dev calls their expansion a expansion doesn't make it a expansion. Just look at GW2 heart of thornes, can't be considered an expansion even if Anet calls it so. Just like their "updates".Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugiawara
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10-30-2016, 03:48 PMDeceptus^ Many folks have said that HW is really nothing more than a larger patch. Admittedly 3.1 was pretty lackluster as well. Hopefully they learned their lesson and start the 4.0 relic from the get go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knahli
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10-31-2016, 03:01 PMAmetrine
I guess I'm used to smaller games, as I'm in the former camp of thinking the "expansion" being 3.0 and my monthly sub paying for the patches and server use. :/
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10-31-2016, 08:14 PMNatSilverguard
it's actually both! :)
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10-31-2016, 08:31 PMFelisHeavensward Expansion is everything in 3.0 - 3.5 (or maybe even 3.6?) locked behind Ishgard access, not what is just in 3.0Quote:
Originally Posted by Lexia
Without HW your $14.99 are only for the 2.x parts in the patches that don't need HW. -
10-31-2016, 08:54 PMZojha
Let's just say: It is a large amount of data that is being transferred to the server and our local installation. It expands and updates the data we already have.
Everything that adds something is an expansion of some scale. Everything that changes what's already there is an update of some scale.
So...it's going to be a moderate to large expansion and with the battle system upgrades likely also a moderate to large update. -
10-31-2016, 08:58 PMAveraxQuote:
Originally Posted by Bigcat9715
They don't make teaser cinematics for a patch.