So "Asylum" Is Useful ... When?

Maybe it's because I'm not particularly creative but frankly having just learned "Asylum" I'm asking myself "why?".

Maybe it's because the brief tooltip is lacking:

"Envelopes a designated area ... healing any party members who enter .. Potency 100, Duration 24".

So what use is this when Medica II gives a 200 Potency AoE heal and a 50 Potency AoE regen for 30. Sure, I can toss out an Asylum as well but why would I bother?

What situations would Asylum be better than a Medica (I or II) and/or Regen?

0 mana cost, up to 800 potency of healing per person in the AoE.

Medica II is 700 potency in total, can be enhanced by Divine Seal, and doesn't require you to be in a single area. But it has a hefty mana cost.

All these extra healing spells will only be useful if you spend enough time DPSing.

1. It's free. No reason NOT to use it.

2. It's oGCD, so you don't waste time using it either.

3. Regens stack, so you can use this WITH medica 2 and regen to make life super easy, and possibly switch to cleric and DPS

Like others have said, though to put it in a different wording, it's not something that competes with regens. It's extra, bonus, etc.

I use it when I know shit is about to hit the fan, or when shit has hit the fan to boost HoT for the whole party.

It's awful but its a nice free, medica II/regen reinforcement.

For example on a really common example is during large pulls on experts, regen on tank, asylum and E4E and you're free the spam holy as much as you can.

Other than what's been said, I also use it on big pulls not only for the tank to get the regen, but for a "safe" spot to holy spam. That way I can eat an AOE or two and not have to spend time healing myself

When you want room to DPS, to conserve mana after multiple raises, as a regen boost during damage-heavy phases, to top off ranged party members... it's better to use it in conjunction with other HoTs unless you're taking low damage.

Cleric stance.

I play AST, but when paired with a WHM I'm often surprised to see this skill not being utilized for certain DPS bursts. For example A11—the entire party has a burn debuff and we're all about to be stacked in front of the boss to pump out DPS with healers (ideally) in cleric. Granted this is usually a quick and easy check, but we want everyone topped off in case they get clipped by the charge at MT after, and it would continue to be useful as the MT is about to get a bleed while the rest of us still have burn even after the DPS check has completed.

If you don't raid I suppose you won't find much use in this, but it's a very nice added regen for your tank or party.

For big pulls in dungeons, it's great to slap this on your Tank while you dps.
If you don't dps though I guess it would seem useless as well.

When is a free Hot Aoe heal not usefull O.o

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Originally Posted by Pintsized

Maybe it's because I'm not particularly creative but frankly having just learned "Asylum" I'm asking myself

What situations would Asylum be better than a Medica (I or II) and/or Regen?

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One phrase "fire and forget"
You can chuck it down to fulfill the HoT needs of the moment and switch to cleric stance and dps. You can also chuck it down on top of a separated team thus freeing yu to focus on other elements. Basically, its an ogcd medica ii that frees you gcds for other uses this increasing your actions per minute.

Forget the numbers... it looks pretty.

When your party members (or you) will be stationary enough to benefit from boosting your HoT. Nothing says you can't use it with Medica II or Regen and I often do. If I know we have a time we're all going to be in one spot, I toss it up. Why not?

A good example is when a Dragoon is targeted by Infusion and you don't have a SCH to shield. Put Asylum in before Sophia summons the scales, when you tilt forth and back into the bubble the attacks from the confused Dragoon would be healed just in time for everyone to be able to survive the ultimate.

I think it's worth mentioning its worth as a party corralling tool. Throw a bubble down and whoever's got their wits about them and is mobile enough will want to go in there. Useful for getting some strays into AoE healing range, or to help herd them in for your SCH/AST partner's shields.

Use it with a Divine Seal regen and it basically let's you fully dps in dungeons worry free while both are up.

You don't really want to cast medica II if it's not needed as it eats up mp that is better used for dps which in dungeons you should be doing 80-90% of the time.

Experts on trash pulls is usually on tanks as an added regen to enable me to Aero 3 and Holy more. Bosses are either on group or on tank depending on positioning of players (fingers crossed for melees ;D).

AS7 there is a strategy in which you can throw an Asylum within a jail and let it heal people while they fight an add. Taking this into perspective, you can essentially drop it somewhere and be out of range to heal someone as long as they're in the bubble.

A9S I use it on the Scholar & OT who placed generators. Rest is either on tank (when it's up) or on group after a stack-AoE goes out.

A10S, I basically do a majority of my AoE Healing with Asylum. It's a very useful tool.

A11S, the first use of it I have it hit both our MT and OT, while E.D.D is spawned. It really eases the amount of GCDs I actually have to spend for upfront healing (Cure, Cure 2), and lets me refresh Aeros and throw some Stone 3s out.

A12S there are sweet spots, but first phases are really reserved for tank healing. Rest are in situations that replaces a needed Medica/Medica 2 on group and lets me throw DPS once again.

A lot of the usage really depends on the positioning of the group and also in relation to how the healer is problem-solving with the amount of damage (and recovery time allotted) is going out. Keep that in mind that it costs 0 MP, and can be used for single-target healing and/or group healing. It is a very flexible ability. :)

Regen + medica II + assylum = clerics stance + holy = awesomeness

Hi. I use Asylum differently with each dungeon or Raid. Asylum is best used in moments when several party or raid members will benefit by its use. Examples...a party or raid is comprised of more Melee than ranged and in close proximity of the foe and used about the time that the foe uses an ability that will cause HP loss.

The Weeping City of Mhach - Forgall's ability Hell Wind will drain the raid's HP. Having Asylum near Forgall will give Tanks and Melee Asylum during a time intense HP regen and replacement is needed.

A8 The Burden of the Son - Brute Justice forms and Phase 3 begins with a knockback. (I'm beginning to think that Asylum during this moment is not as useful because Brute Justice is positioned Northward. The party moves toward the center of the arena prior to the full use of Asylum.) Double Rocket Punch is an ability that is often shared by Tanks, I have yet to test this...but Asylum during Double Rocket Punch may be useful.

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I really wanna see asylum get a trait where it provides some mitigation [5%] compared to 10% by AST/SCH and alleviates the detrimental effects of weakness while under it. Being able to stave off the HP of weakness could really be unique and helpful for Massive Raid wide damage as well as minimalizing DPS/Enmity losses.

Asylum as is, is in a good spot for now. I just wanna see more interesting effects across the board for healers. Utility is awesome.