is rogue-ninja ok if i have 170-200 latency?

doing rogue right now, just recently 60 DRG but the BOTD is pretty painful to watch for since iam playing with 170-200ms latency so everything is 1 second delay for me =/

Ninja Arts are going to be really hard. And actually landing Trick Attack might be tricky as well.

Well glad my rogue is still 21, monk i guess?

I don't think it matters that much what you choose, higher pings will always translate to less dps.

I play nin with like 180-200 ping and it's perfectly fine. It just won't be as smooth as say less than 100 ping.

Good to know =D, iam not aiming for top dps anyway, all i want is a melee class that have the least "stress" to play

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Originally Posted by gumas

Good to know =D, iam not aiming for top dps anyway, all i want is a melee class that have the least "stress" to play

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Then you should play monk^^

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Originally Posted by gumas

Good to know =D, iam not aiming for top dps anyway, all i want is a melee class that have the least "stress" to play

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Then you shouldn't play NIN...but well if you don't aim for top dps means you don't raid and that means that every class can be free of stress for you since you don't have to play it perfectly. ;)

Didnt monk is really heavy on positioning? I go ninja because it seem they only 1 skill that require positioning, DRG has 3 i think, MNK has 4? If iam not wrong?

As for dot timer ninja has 2 dot which i think i can go 1 if iam lazy lol or just casual levelling

NIN has three positionals: Armour Crush (flank), Aeolian Edge (rear), and Trick Attack (rear). Dragoon has four, while Monk has six.
Your ping may be too high for the Raiton Ninjutsu to be worth using, but it shouldn't keep you from playing the class, especially if you're not interested in playing it especially well.

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Originally Posted by Kietsu

NIN has three positionals: Armour Crush (flank), Aeolian Edge (rear), and Trick Attack (rear). Dragoon has four, while Monk has six.
Your ping may be too high for the Raiton Ninjutsu to be worth using, but it shouldn't keep you from playing the class, especially if you're not interested in playing it especially well.

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NIN has 4
Armour Crush (flank), Aeolian Edge (rear), and Trick Attack (rear) and Sneak Attack (front)
And you use your positionals more often, than a drg

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Originally Posted by Campi

NIN has 4
Armour Crush (flank), Aeolian Edge (rear), and Trick Attack (rear) and Sneak Attack (front)
And you use your positionals more often, than a drg

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I agree.
But be honest: How often do you use SA? :D

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Originally Posted by Campi

NIN has 4
Armour Crush (flank), Aeolian Edge (rear), and Trick Attack (rear) and Sneak Attack (front)
And you use your positionals more often, than a drg

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I left Sneak Attack out because as much fun as it is to land sneak attack crits for thousands and thousands of damage, it doesn't get much use in serious play.

O wow so nin has 4?, and monk has 6?!!? Welp, at this point i might as well wait for the new class for upcoming expansion. I never knew .5-1 second delay can be this annoying.

I guess monk is out then.

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Originally Posted by gumas

O wow so nin has 4?, and monk has 6?!!? Welp, at this point i might as well wait for the new class for upcoming expansion. I never knew .5-1 second delay can be this annoying.

I guess monk is out then.

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The ninja positionals really arent as bad as you are thinking. You are mostly going to be at the rear anyway (except for when you need to use armour crush)

I don't understand why the positionals matter if you don't care about your dps. Just play which ever one looks a feels good to play. The only thing you miss out on by not hitting a positional is damage ( which you don't care for anyway). All dps classes are mind numbingly easy to play in any content where damage doesn't matter. But as soon as you step into something that does matter, dps become the most difficult. And it's almost the exact opposite for tanks and healers imo since they still have responsibility when damage doesn't matter

From my experience long pings aren't so bad on positionals as they are on combos. This has been super painful for me on MNK when I play from my work computer. Frequently the GCD would completely expire before my client got confirmation back from the server that I did indeed land that previous attack and am now in a new form, adding at least .1-.2 seconds to every attack round because my ping simply couldn't keep up with the GCD..

As an aside, businesses really get screwed with ISPs and other utilities in the US. That terrible internet connection costs like $80/ month for a business, but $20 for a residence, as it's the lowest offering they even have for residential (not the lowest for business class though -- they go all the way down to 2Mb/s). For $20 less at home I get about a ~50ms ping and 300Mb/s. I really only installed XIV on my work PC to craft/gather and even that's painful.

Positioning become a habit with time, so you shouldn't worry about it.

But yeah, ninja with lag can be unpleasant.

playing nin on that kind of ping sure if your not doing anything serious. I mean the mudra clipping will be awful you press one then thinking the server didn't pick up your press do it again then going off twice screwing up your ninjutsu altogether. The normal combos themselves will probably be alright, not great but passable. I would be more worried about mudras at that ping and if you can't get them going right with high ping you would be pretty screwed in terms of dps.

Unrelated Topic -

Ilan what bow are you using in your character card?

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Originally Posted by Yurihyuga

playing nin on that kind of ping sure if your not doing anything serious. I mean the mudra clipping will be awful you press one then thinking the server didn't pick up your press do it again then going off twice screwing up your ninjutsu altogether. The normal combos themselves will probably be alright, not great but passable. I would be more worried about mudras at that ping and if you can't get them going right with high ping you would be pretty screwed in terms of dps.

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Ilan what bow are you using in your character card?

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I've done savage/ex primals with 160-200 ping before and experienced pretty much no troubles with latency reducing vpn.

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Originally Posted by Yurihyuga

playing nin on that kind of ping sure if your not doing anything serious. I mean the mudra clipping will be awful you press one then thinking the server didn't pick up your press do it again then going off twice screwing up your ninjutsu altogether. The normal combos themselves will probably be alright, not great but passable. I would be more worried about mudras at that ping and if you can't get them going right with high ping you would be pretty screwed in terms of dps.

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Ilan what bow are you using in your character card?

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Its the A4S bow in metallic green.

370 pings here,Regularly suffer from Latency Penalty but I think I'm ok since NIN ain't my main
And for NIN's ninjutsu...lets just say sometimes I went for Suiton or Huton but got Raiton instead.

I main on ninja, play from Australia...250 ping is really really painful for ninja as when you had huton on you get attack speed and all your gcd will bugged out as server cannot keep up the speed for transfer the attack data.
That is why I MUST have VPN or GPN (Mudfish cheaper and faster than WTFast. Only cost 3$ AUD for 3 months than WTFast $10 USD for 1 month) and I can get around 130-150 ping, as if 150+ ping my mudra will still bug out.

I will recommend you go BRD or MCH as you dont have to move so much and can easily dodge things.
BRD the only dps class can remove DEBUFF!!! EZ mode in weeping city, stand in haircut get a cool haircut! Help healer or WAR remove their debuff.
Yes BRD is my 2nd dps class, very fun to play since the buffs. But I only use BRD if going to somewhere need to remove debuffs, like Odin fate, weeping city, S rank hunts, etc.

If you really want melee classes, recommend you go DRG as they gonna buff it again in Stormblood with special UI for them, the MNK will get crazy buffed in Stormblood as it will be the main class in the story. For NIN, i really dont know...many of us main in NIN think it needs full revamp on it, will really have to see about how NIN goes, but IF seriously NIN get another aggro control skill and no revamp in Stormblood I might quit to the new jobs in Stormblood :(