Shorter elezen necks

With the coming of 4.0 and I assume big changes graphically-wise with the dropping of ps3 support, is there anyway elezens can get shorter necks and somewhat wider heads? The only thing stopping me from playing them is their awkward giraffe heads (no offense to people who play as elezens). Unless the reason they're shaped like this is because of "muh uniqueness" then rip.

Definitely up voting this.

Omg yes PLEASE.

They've been dhalmel for nearly 15 years. Doubt it's going to change now.

Elezen basically have human sized heads with larger than human bodies that are still proportioned the same as human bodies. This results in the feeling that they have "shrunken heads." On male Elezens, this generally looks passable, since the typical hyper-masculine superhero proportions have larger bodies in proportion to their normal-sized heads. On females, however, it just looks unnatural in a bad way.

My thought on this is that what Elezen need is actually narrower bodies, not wider heads. Widening the head and shortening the neck as he OP suggested would get them pretty close to looking like big humans with elf ears. Narrowing their bodies instead would give them a tall, lanky look, which would keep them in being unique.

Another thought for this is that in the character creator should change just the height for the body, not the size of the head or the width of the body. This could make Elezen vary from unnaturally tall and lanky down to something relatively close to human on the bottom of the scale.


In general, though, Elezen aren't terribly popular, and the reason is their proportioning makes females especially look very unnatural. Revamping Elezen would increase their popularity and hence the diversity without having to make a whole new race.


EDIT: I did a crude photoshop of an existing Elezen image to show what it would look like with a narrower body, since a picture is worth a thousand words.

https://lh3.google.com/u/0/d/0BysIO6...280-h695-k-iv1

Neck Slider for elzen please!

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Originally Posted by giantslayer

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Honestly i'd love to make my character look like alphinaud or alisaie but that definitely won't happen, so I would like so see elezens improved upon as they are now. I don't really care how it's done as long as it gets done ¯\(ツ)/¯

And, perhaps, a slider to adjust their baby hands.

Or maybe it's just their arm length that makes their hands look so small.

Probably not gonna happen sad to say...

In FFXI my first guy was an Elvaan. His neck though... After a few hours of being annoyed by his neck I deleted him and made a Hume instead. In FFXIV 1.0 my first creation was an Elezen, a recreation of my original original FFXI guy. Made him a Hume shortly after starting the game (and promptly quitting after a short time because computer couldn't run the game for an hour without overheating and shutting itself down despite lowest settings).

Also:

http://i.imgur.com/4gFM2.png

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/o.../taisai114.jpg

Next thing you'll be asking for Roegadyn-sized lalafell.

Neck sliders, butt sliders, boob sliders, bulge sliders; how about you all learn to work with what God (Yoshi-P) gave you?

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Originally Posted by Averax

And, perhaps, a slider to adjust their baby hands.

Or maybe it's just their arm length that makes their hands look so small.

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I always thought male Elezen had yaoi hands...

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Originally Posted by Len

Next thing you'll be asking for Roegadyn-sized lalafell.

Neck sliders, butt sliders, boob sliders, bulge sliders; how about you all learn to work with what God (Yoshi-P) gave you?

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[Insert PS3 limitations copy pasta here]

Victory for Elezonians across the land! "What're you doing in this... neck... of the woods?" asked the Wildwood, waving his wangle-dook* in your face.

*No, it's nothing explicit.

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Originally Posted by Lunaxia

I always thought male Elezen had yaoi hands...

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Did I read that right? Or am I just going insane

I can ALMOST look passed the neck but the thing keeping me from enjoying the long necks are their run animation.

I like my Elezen just the way he is and I don't want Elezens to change. Why alienating the players that like the race and play one? I don't make threads against Lalas demanding the devs to replace the atrocious horrible fugly race by the cute adorable huggable Hobbits from The Lord of the Rings Online. And yeah, back when I was playing The Lord of the Rings Online I had 6 alts, 3 Hobbits and 3 Elves, I found the Hobbits absolutely adorable. When I came here though I've found Lalas fugly and horrible so I don't play one. I also don't say that to those who play Lalas that I find all Lalas, except for the NPC Lala Krile, fugly because they love their characters and are attached to them.

HOBBITS!!! HOBBITS!!!

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Originally Posted by Lunaxia

I always thought male Elezen had yaoi hands...

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If you mean the long hands... Well I don't know o_o;

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Originally Posted by Korbash

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While I respect your opinion and am not alienating elezen players (lol), it's obvious that many people don't feel the same way. I don't really see what the big deal about making the neck a bit shorter is though tbh. Like someone said, a neck slider would be nice (though kinda silly in the first place), but if some people enjoy having very long necks then why not?

I really don't mind the neck, I think it's absolutely fine the way it is.

I only wish necklaces would sit properly at the bottom instead of floating awkwardly halfway up...

Belly Slider for Au Ra, Please.

It always looks like I'm starving to Death almost.

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Originally Posted by Len

Next thing you'll be asking for Roegadyn-sized lalafell.

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No no. They'll be asking for less muscle. Or taller, less round lalas. Or Mi'qs with tiny ears and stubby tails. /hyperbole

Why complain about racial characteristics? The whole point of different races is to not be completely homogenized, surely.

Long neck is Elezen's signature just like Au Ra's Horns,Cat's Ears/Tail.
You should be proud.

No, Elezan are inhumanly proportioned because they aren't human.

It's fine to not like their odd proportions, but don't demand radical changes like that. This isn't like another tail type for Miqo'te!

As for the Photoshopped edit, that's more like a Viera verses Elezan to me.

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Originally Posted by Kahnom

Long neck is Elezen's signature just like Au Ra's Horns,Cat's Ears/Tail.
You should be proud.

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^^ This - they've been slender and elegant for alot longer then FFXI and would look extremely out of place if their key features are manipulated from what they are now.

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Originally Posted by Korbash

I like my Elezen just the way he is and I don't want Elezens to change. Why alienating the players that like the race and play one? I don't make threads against Lalas demanding the devs to replace the atrocious horrible fugly race by the cute adorable huggable Hobbits from The Lord of the Rings Online.

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Basically this!! I play an Elezen 90% of the time (who I love, but I'm also addicted to fantasia) and surely the whole POINT is that they don't look human. I don't want to play a tall Hyur with pointy ears, even though that's what most people seem to hope for.

As a female elezen the shoulders are perhaps a little wide, but I don't mind the neck or head size. I even like the way we run (not sure what the problem is with it... IMO female midlanders have the worst run.)

do I dare ask what the hell is yaoi hands...I just...I need to know...

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Originally Posted by Korbash

I like my Elezen just the way he is and I don't want Elezens to change. Why alienating the players that like the race and play one? I don't make threads against Lalas demanding the devs to replace the atrocious horrible fugly race by the cute adorable huggable Hobbits from The Lord of the Rings Online. And yeah, back when I was playing The Lord of the Rings Online I had 6 alts, 3 Hobbits and 3 Elves, I found the Hobbits absolutely adorable. When I came here though I've found Lalas fugly and horrible so I don't play one. I also don't say that to those who play Lalas that I find all Lalas, except for the NPC Lala Krile, fugly because they love their characters and are attached to them.

HOBBITS!!! HOBBITS!!!

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Being an Elezen fan I almost agreed with you. I happen to like my Lalafell, and the Elezen race, just the way they are and I don't feel the need to insult other people's choice in race to make that point.

On topic, I've never had a problem with Elezen necks; been my second favorite race since 1.0 but I'm all for getting more customization options.

They need a make over for their whole body structure in order to make people want to play this race.

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Originally Posted by Mikhaill

do I dare ask what the hell is yaoi hands...I just...I need to know...

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Trope seen in most manga and anime where hands are drawn proportionally way too large for the rest of the body, usually belonging to the dominant males.

To extrapolate, most yaoi is drawn by amature/dojin artists that just aren't... Very good at this art thing yet, or have a crap budget to work with. Thus, the sub-genre's infamous proportion issues, with giant hands being the most notable.

It's to the point where you can eyeball a manga with purposefully giant handed men and know it's yaoi or boys love.

The more you know~~

it's a shame we can't do not have the face option for aymeric.

Or we can just leave them as they are. Unless you also want to every other race changed because some random person doesn't like 1 aspect of them. And then of course, the change will anger people who are playing that race, and want the change reverted, and it'll never end.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

Trope seen in most manga and anime where hands are drawn proportionally way too large for the rest of the body, usually belonging to the dominant males.

To extrapolate, most yaoi is drawn by amature/dojin artists that just aren't... Very good at this art thing yet, or have a crap budget to work with. Thus, the sub-genre's infamous proportion issues, with giant hands being the most notable.

It's to the point where you can eyeball a manga with purposefully giant handed men and know it's yaoi or boys love.

The more you know~~

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Looked it up, 5am and I am already done with the internet for the day.
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20160705225344
and then I saw this random thing...
https://67.media.tumblr.com/dbfabe7f...qen1nv_540.jpg
And this is an Elezen about to mangrab a Lala, please help my eyes...
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3...ju5no1_500.jpg

The salt in this thread.... :)

At least "Weird Yaoi Anatomy" came out of this.

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The salt in this thread.... :)

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Elezens are serious about their necking

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Originally Posted by Norleas

Elezens are serious about their necking

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They are... and it's scary ;__;

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Originally Posted by Mikhaill

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20160705225344

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I'm not even that disturbed by the size, you can just trick yourself into thinking it is the perspective with the hand being a lot closer than the owner of the hand.
But WHY does it have so many knuckles. Why are there 3 joints per finger?! It looks like a spider somehow T_T

On the actual topic of this thread:
I think the Elezen necks are fine. Well, not anatomically right-looking, okay. But every race needs their little pet peeve, like the Miqo butts and the Elezen necks and Au Ra's horn-face lock, so..
What I'm more weirded out by is the length of my Au Ra's neck, because that makes no goddamn sense at all for it to be so long too °-°

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Give him pointy ears and that's literally an elezen

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What I'm more weirded out by is the length of my Au Ra's neck, because that makes no goddamn sense at all for it to be so long too °-°

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I find the Au Ra male necks to be perfectly proportioned. They don't seem too long or too short to me. However, I assume you're referencing the females, given your avatar.

I think one could say their necks look off because they are designed to look like a generic anime highschool girl. Larger head, skinnier neck, default pose causes feet to point inward, shorter stature. Female Au Ra are basically every anime highschool girl ever.

But in the case of males, every time i think about making an Elezen male i end up going Au Ra instead, as they are just more proportionally pleasant.

Then why not just give the possibility then, like a lot of MMO do today ?
Those who want to stay the way they are can, those who want smaller neck can, everyone is happy and we can all eat cake together :3

As someone who roleplays an Elezen(and thus their appearance is the most important thing to me), leave my Elezen neck alone! First and foremost, I made the character because I like how she looks. If she gets changed, she won't be the character I intended her to be any more. Her looks play a big part in her personality.

But more importantly: I have seen people in the thread say things like that they wanted to play an Elezen, but because of their neck they played a Hume instead. All that tells me is that you want to play a human character. So do it. Elezen have a few things unique to their body structure that make them not just look like a blown up human. And other than Lalafels they are the only race that isn't just a human scaled to a different size and recolored with some added tails, ears, and horns.

I WISH every race looked more unique than they do, but unfortunately we are stuck with everyone just being different representations of humans. It's bad enough as it is, please stop trying to make everyone into the same thing.