Please take Shield Oath and Sword Oath off the GCD

Such a pain trying to do the Sophia tank swap if you dont have Circle of Scorn or Spirits Within ready.

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Originally Posted by Genaxx

Such a pain trying to do the Sophia tank swap if you dont have Circle of Scorn or Spirits Within ready.

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If you know you have to, why don't you keep them ready ?

Learn the fight and get into Shield Oath on time.

I have not done Sophia EX yet but I image the swaps not generally different than in the past.
I do swaps by getting into the time position, starting RoH combo
SwO: FS > SB > ShO > Provoke > RoH and the aggro is mine every time.

The problem is that sometimes depending on dps you can push to skip certain tank busters so it'll take a while to learn (at least based on the few runs I've had yesterday).

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

If you know you have to, why don't you keep them ready ?

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But muh dps

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Originally Posted by Genaxx

Such a pain trying to do the Sophia tank swap if you dont have Circle of Scorn or Spirits Within ready.

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The solution is to Sword Oath all the way! All the deeps!

You don't need anything else just to swap even in SwO, just SB/RoH is enough. If your cotank is taking back aggro, that's not on you.

I do, and have always agreed with this. This would be a good QoL change more than anything as it can be rather time consuming to build hate from being in SwO, especially when you aren't expecting it (even 2.5 seconds can be harmful if SW and CoS are on cooldown). While I don't see this bandaid fix coming soon, I feel like the OT positions of all 3 tanks (especially DRK and PLD) need reworking and balancing to make them more viable, and if nothing else, fun to play.

Careful what you ask for. WAR can change off gcd... But has a recast, doesn't get mitigation on action, and the stance impacts which skills are available. DRK can drop grit instantly, but also has ability restrictions and a more meaningful resource cost.

If you are to remove oaths from the gcd, SE is likely to add negative(s) elsewhere.
Next thing you know they have recasts, cost TP, and FoF can only be used in a certain oath.

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Originally Posted by winsock

Careful what you ask for. WAR can change off gcd... But has a recast, doesn't get mitigation on action, and the stance impacts which skills are available. DRK can drop grit instantly, but also has ability restrictions and a more meaningful resource cost.

If you are to remove oaths from the gcd, SE is likely to add negative(s) elsewhere.
Next thing you know they have recasts, cost TP, and FoF can only be used in a certain oath.

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Tbh this wouldn't be a bad thing. Also, you forget that WAR skills are inherently better. Compare the wrath/abandon skills to PLD: You get a nice mitigation buff which has a big damage attack linked to it (PLD has off stack mitigation, but no damage), a skill that nullifies the damage loss from defensive stance, a low damage AOE move, a high damage AOE move, and a very potent single target damage move, PLD doesn't have much like this at all, limited by stacks or not. On top of this you also get storms eye/path, which is nice all around toolkit. I don't think PLD have off GCD would be any more broken than WAR having it (I'm fine with WAR having it), and it would be a QoL change that would make OTing as a PLD a little easier.

It's not a QoL change if it affects balance, which this would. With the Oaths on the GCD, you're expected to make certain decisions as to what your priorities are. Taking them off GCD gives you, funnily enough, more GCDs with which to hit things while removing most of the risk of swapping Oath at the wrong time.

If your co-tank stops attacking the boss, then you can swap with sword oath.

That's a big IF. Maybe people suggesting swaps in SwO never had to deal with a DPS-obsesssed WARs who never stop and can do a crit-FC+stun swing right after the Provoke :(

If you want shield and sword oath as an OGCD i want the same for DRK. ;)

and I want Defiance to restore the amount of HP that I gain, not just raise my total HP pool