Retry's need more description

Sooo, SE might want to add a little more description to the retry's for Wonderous Tales. You cant use them once you have all 9 seals (which it doesn't say). Wastedmy entire week because of this small detail that was left out. THanks!!

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Originally Posted by SinisterJointss

Sooo, SE might want to add a little more description to the retry's for Wonderous Tales. You cant use them once you have all 9 seals (which it doesn't say). Wastedmy entire week because of this small detail that was left out. THanks!!

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Even if you could use them after the fact, being 9/9 means no more seals? What would completing more for no seals accomplish?

I think this is more just people misunderstanding how the Wondrous Tails book itself worked. That is, they thought that a particular duty would be tied to a particular sticker, or that using retry would remove a sticker. This is not the case. Thus, retry doesn't swap stickers around or remove one, but just lets you redo a task you've already done to earn another sticker, while counting another duty you've yet to do as "Done" to account for the stickers you already have.

So of course you wouldn't be able to use it once you have all 9 seals.

i know for a fact that it mentions somewhere that you can use it with 3-7 tasks complete. i was trying to plan my strategy when i noticed it and it put a real damper on things.

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Originally Posted by ZhaneX

I think this is more just people misunderstanding how the Wondrous Tails book itself worked. That is, they thought that a particular duty would be tied to a particular sticker, or that using retry would remove a sticker. This is not the case. Thus, retry doesn't swap stickers around or remove one, but just lets you redo a task you've already done to earn another sticker, while counting another duty you've yet to do as "Done" to account for the stickers you already have.

So of course you wouldn't be able to use it once you have all 9 seals.

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OOOH.... That's fantastic to know!

She gave me all these EX fights and a couple Coil related tasks that I simply don't want or intend to do.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

She gave me all these EX fights and a couple Coil related tasks that I simply don't want or intend to do.

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Yeah, that's exactly what Retry is for. So you don't have to do things you don't want to do.

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Originally Posted by ZhaneX

I think this is more just people misunderstanding how the Wondrous Tails book itself worked. That is, they thought that a particular duty would be tied to a particular sticker, or that using retry would remove a sticker. This is not the case. Thus, retry doesn't swap stickers around or remove one, but just lets you redo a task you've already done to earn another sticker, while counting another duty you've yet to do as "Done" to account for the stickers you already have.

So of course you wouldn't be able to use it once you have all 9 seals.

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That is exactly what it was. I thought it swapped seals. Learned that later on that it doesn't

So... I get what retry does (used this morning) but I'm confused about the "shuffle" one then? That can be used when you have all 9 right? I mean, i'm scared to use it cause I think i've got a decent layout going but that's the risk you take :P
Nice to see the "second chances" carry over too.
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-...56808709_o.jpg

Just click second chances. It's not immediate, pops up a new menu. Explains further what retry and shuffle do and says about when you can use them (you can't use either past 7 stickers)

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Originally Posted by MisterSpamtastic

i know for a fact that it mentions somewhere that you can use it with 3-7 tasks complete. i was trying to plan my strategy when i noticed it and it put a real damper on things.

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Mhm! When you click on second chance, it very clearly states shuffling can only be done between 3-7 stickers.

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Originally Posted by Acantha

So... I get what retry does (used this morning) but I'm confused about the "shuffle" one then? That can be used when you have all 9 right? I mean, i'm scared to use it cause I think i've got a decent layout going but that's the risk you take :P
Nice to see the "second chances" carry over too.
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-...56808709_o.jpg

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Shuffle re-arranges the sticker layout, effectivily this could net you lines if you don't have any or worse, none if you have 1. its RNG based.
You can use Shuffle up at 3 stickers and up to 7. and 8 it becomes unavailable and at 9 the book locks.

Edit : Second Chances do transfer over to next weeks books and so forth.

Sadly I wasted my weekly on this as well. Did all my challenge logs, got the 9/9 stickers. Wanted to reshuffle to only find out I couldn't.

Totally my fault afterall that's what I get for assuming things before hitting reshuffle. I was rather ticked off.
Would of been nice if the quest npc had a more in depth explanation or even a little 'guide' on how those 2 options work.

I got 7 stickers on the board and have other events complete for the remaining two.

Now I'm just building second chance points to shuffle for a Good chance to get 3 lines.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Mhm! When you click on second chance, it very clearly states shuffling can only be done between 3-7 stickers.

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Yes but only with the shuffle does it say that. Which is moot because retry doesnt swap the stickers which I learned after the fact. Oh well!

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Originally Posted by SinisterJointss

Yes but only with the shuffle does it say that. Which is moot because retry doesnt swap the stickers which I learned after the fact. Oh well!

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Retry is pretty self explanatory actually. I don't see how people are not understanding it. Retry literally says it resets a completed action to available and an available action to unavailable. Obviously this means no stickers are reset.

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Originally Posted by Syrellaris

Retry is pretty self explanatory actually. I don't see how people are not understanding it. Retry literally says it resets a completed action to available and an available action to unavailable. Obviously this means no stickers are reset.

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If people are misunderstanding it, it's not obvious, so adding a bit more description to make it obvious wouldn't hurt.

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Originally Posted by SinisterJointss

If people are misunderstanding it, it's not obvious, so adding a bit more description to make it obvious wouldn't hurt.

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I think it has more to do with people not bothering to actually read the information given to you when you first accept the quest for wondrous tails. Therefor, not understanding what Wondrous tails actually does, which leads to confusion with Retry and Shuffle.

There is no confusion, only dumb people that either don't read or have absolutely no reading comprehension. I got it and had no one explain it to me...

Seriously there is Nothing confusing in the instructions for retry or shuffle.

I think it would help if it was more obvious at a glance a duty is finished (especially after using a retry making a random one finished). Like a DONE stamp across it or something because I just did a duty the game had deemed finished because I had used a retry yesterday. Just darkening doesn't really help at a glance.

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Originally Posted by ZhaneX

I think this is more just people misunderstanding how the Wondrous Tails book itself worked. That is, they thought that a particular duty would be tied to a particular sticker, or that using retry would remove a sticker. This is not the case. Thus, retry doesn't swap stickers around or remove one, but just lets you redo a task you've already done to earn another sticker, while counting another duty you've yet to do as "Done" to account for the stickers you already have.

So of course you wouldn't be able to use it once you have all 9 seals.

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This is exactly how me and my bf understood it. I was lucky enough not to have gone crazy with the stickers yet, but he pretty much wasted his book for this week because of the misunderstanding. :( More clarification for how Retry works in any in-game capacity would help out a lot.