[SPOILER] Possible new class

Hello.

For those who finished the new main quest what do you think about Alisaie aether sword? Which ff class fit her better?
Just as i saw it i thought red mage but usually red mage use phisical swords and not magical construct. Maybe some sort of mystic knight?

Red mage is close, but the job name that might fit her best would be Spell Blade. I don't remember from which Final Fantasy it originated though. First seen in Final Fantasy 5.

If it is indeed a new job, then for the love of all that is good, make it a DPS. Sword/Shield and Greatsword have both ended up as tank, if they end up making Spell Blade (or Red Mage) a tank as well the development team is gonna have a riot on their hands.

I didn't end up paying too much attention to her fighting so I didn't notice if she used GLA/PLD attack animations with the sword, or if she had new animations...

Because if she didn't use the GLA/PLD animations then it might be a very good indication of being related to a new class.

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Originally Posted by Erudito

Red mage is close, but the job name that might fit her best would be Spell Blade. I don't remember from which Final Fantasy it originated though. First seen in Final Fantasy 5.

If it is indeed a new job, then for the love of all that is good, make it a DPS. Sword/Shield and Greatsword have both ended up as tank, if they end up making Spell Blade (or Red Mage) a tank as well the development team is gonna have a riot on their hands.

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Ah cool i thought i've read something about a job that fitted alisaie but i wasn't able to remember the exact name and yes i think that's a dps job all right considering the lack of any tyoe of heavy armour.

How actualy worked the spell blade in ff5?

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

I didn't end up paying too much attention to her fighting so I didn't notice if she used GLA/PLD attack animations with the sword, or if she had new animations...

Because if she didn't use the GLA/PLD animations then it might be a very good indication of being related to a new class.

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Didn't paied attention to animation too but it would pretty strange that they will use the animation of a new class that it will not show uo for at least another year

I was thinking Red Mage

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Originally Posted by Erudito

Red mage is close, but the job name that might fit her best would be Spell Blade.

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Spellblade is the skill name (or actually a whole category of skills, since it can be used with a wide variety of spells). The associated job is Mystic Knight. (In Bravely Default, the same job is called Spell Fencer.) Basically, instead of casting offensive magic directly at the enemy, you cast it on your weapon and then attack with it.

I think it could be a pretty cool job to add if done well. (But then so would red mage.)

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

Spellblade is the skill name (or actually a whole category of skills, since it can be used with a wide variety of spells). The associated job is Mystic Knight. Basically, instead of casting offensive magic directly at the enemy, you cast it on your weapon and then attack with it. I think it could be a pretty cool job to add if done well. (But then so would red mage.)

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This is really interesting but for the class to work as described in the wiki elemental resistance should acquire a lot more importance ingame

Spellblade was also a class in Final Fantasy Tactics A2. It was a Veira job that had you enchant your sword to do damage that also caused a debuff on the foe. The attack wasn't elemental in the game like the Elementalist was (had magic that was elemental and caused a debuff on the foe). Veira could only be Elementalists, too.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

Spellblade was also a class in Final Fantasy Tactics A2. It was a Veira job that had you enchant your sword to do damage that also caused a debuff on the foe. The attack wasn't elemental in the game like the Elementalist was (had magic that was elemental and caused a debuff on the foe). Veira could only be Elementalists, too.

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......Damn so viera could be in 4.0

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Originally Posted by Giubba

This is really interesting but for the class to work as described in the wiki elemental resistance should acquire a lot more importance ingame

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Well, in most FF games, Black Mage is highly focused on elemental attacks as well. They changed how that works in this game, so could change how Mystic Knight's spells work as well.

I think so long as it involves casting magic on your weapon and then getting a corresponding magical effect when you attack with that weapon, then it fits the job's basic paradigm. Any other details can be adjusted around to suit the mechanics and balance concerns of this particular game.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

I didn't end up paying too much attention to her fighting so I didn't notice if she used GLA/PLD attack animations with the sword, or if she had new animations...

Because if she didn't use the GLA/PLD animations then it might be a very good indication of being related to a new class.

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Definitely used GLA/PLD animations, after the cutscene I made sure to watch her in the fight because I was hyped for a possible red mage style.

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Originally Posted by Giubba

Hello.

For those who finished the new main quest what do you think about Alisaie aether sword? Which ff class fit her better?
Just as i saw it i thought red mage but usually red mage use phisical swords and not magical construct. Maybe some sort of mystic knight?

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Funny because the first thing that came to mind when I saw that was "I hope this is not what the devs are planning for Red Mage."

What she pulled out doesn't look right to me, and feels awfully cheesy. There's no shame in simply ensorcelling one's sword with magic.

A dps Spell Dancer would be sweet. I'd play that

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Originally Posted by Arasiel

A dps Spell Fencer would be sweet. I\\'d play that

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Dang autocorrect

It'll probably be a new tank after they release SAM as tank.

I thought this would be about all the Adventurers of Darkness having classes we don't. Magus, Devote, Ranger, Knight.
I don't know what Alisae did, but it looked freakin awesome.

Well she didn't anything too crazy and awesome on my eyes. She still used her SCH book after all. It's not first time we see an aether blade. It's not a new concept in game. This might not be a teaser for a next class at all. Well the first Fan Festival is in 2 weeks. So we will learn at least for 1 new class there. If he does it like on the previous Festivals then we is going to reveal 1 new class at each Festival. The name of the new expansion and a teaser trailer on the first.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

I thought this would be about all the Adventurers of Darkness having classes we don't. Magus, Devote, Ranger, Knight.
I don't know what Alisae did, but it looked freakin awesome.

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Those are all just alternate lables or upgraded versions of the same jobs we have. Devout and Magus are the leveled up versions of White Mage and Black Mage in FFIII, for example.

I'm just going to quote myself form another thread here:

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

Or maybe she's just a PLD without a shield? Ever consider that? She does use the PLD animations when she fights. The sword just simply spawned from a book, and it happens to glow. Nothing more. Even her casting animations are the same as when a PLD casts Clemency.
Sorry to be a party pooper, but yeah. She's definitely a shield less PLD.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

I'm just going to quote myself form another thread here:

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i don't think so.
the animation do not matter at this stage

Rune fencer from FFXI maybe.

Maybe the cutscene hinted at something else.

She looked arcanist class(with book) then she gives up the book to take up the sword and had no pet.

So maybe it is unlocked with arcanist and the job summons magical weapons instead of pets.

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Originally Posted by Sandpark

Maybe the cutscene hinted at something else.

She looked arcanist class(with book) then she gives up the book to take up the sword and had no pet.

So maybe it is unlocked with arcanist and the job summons magical weapons instead of pets.

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As much as I'd like them to revisit the class/job/job idea I doubt Arcanist is getting a third job.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

Those are all just alternate lables or upgraded versions of the same jobs we have. Devout and Magus are the leveled up versions of White Mage and Black Mage in FFIII, for example.

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So when can we do that? I want to update my Astrologian into, dunno Steven Hawking, and my Ninja into....damit, nothing is better than ninjas.

My question is, what was up with Urianger's pose? After he drew his tome. Am I looking too deeply into it, or am I right to think that the camera stopped on that shot for a reason?

As far as Ali's special sword, all I could think was "Limit Break" -- that energy sword some DD jobs use when the LB happens.

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Originally Posted by Kikoten

My question is, what was up with Urianger's pose? After he drew his tome. Am I looking too deeply into it, or am I right to think that the camera stopped on that shot for a reason?

As far as Ali's special sword, all I could think was "Limit Break" -- that energy sword some DD jobs use when the LB happens.

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nah the limit break sword is completely different. It's way bigger and it glows yellow

Isn't this the second instance of someone enchanting their sword with magic? I forget the guy's name, but the "Leader" of the Crystal Braves also did something magical to his sword when he was fighting Raubahn.

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Originally Posted by Giubba

nah the limit break sword is completely different. It's way bigger and it glows yellow

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The LB sword is also the Buster Sword from FF7.

http://zantetsuken.net/wp-content/up...-omnislash.jpg

The sword Alisaie drew was most certainly not the Buster Sword.

I don't think it's anything but red Mage. They already confirmed that during an event, and as for the glowing sword, I think it's the red Mage pajal sword they'll eventually have to add.

I am still going to say Red Mage. It does fall in lines with the FF5 job "Mystic Knight", but you have to remember that Red Mage is arguably the most demanded job in the game right now. Red Mage is also a job that can use both magic and weaponry. Working aspects of Mystic Knight into the job makes sense.

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Originally Posted by BristolRuss

The LB sword is also the Buster Sword from FF7.

http://zantetsuken.net/wp-content/up...-omnislash.jpg

The sword Alisaie drew was most certainly not the Buster Sword.

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lol i thought it was that but i never paid enough attention to check it

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Originally Posted by Velhart

Red Mage is also a job that can use both magic and weaponry. Working aspects of Mystic Knight into the job makes sense.

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So just like we have a job that's called Bard but is really more of a cross between Bard and Ranger, we might be getting a job that's called Red Mage but is actually a cross between Red Mage and Mystic Knight. Yeah, that could work.

(After all, whatever job we get, it'll be the FFXIV variant of the job, and will almost certainly not exactly match its implementation anywhere else.)

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

So just like we have a job that's called Bard but is really more of a cross between Bard and Ranger, we might be getting a job that's called Red Mage but is actually a cross between Red Mage and Mystic Knight. Yeah, that could work.

(After all, whatever job we get, it'll be the FFXIV variant of the job, and will almost certainly not exactly match its implementation anywhere else.)

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Redmages have en-carbuncle because, reasons.

Alisaie's sword looked to be a similar model to the Dark Knight's Balmung, which is ironically the same model used for the Padjali DRK sword.... So I don't know. It may be unique to her like Y'shtola's staff.

Her animations were the generic GLD sword swings used for weapons that don't have their own special animation and stances, like crafting and gathering main hand gear.

But her comment about studying multible schools of magic pretty much cements that she's some sort of proto-Red Mage.

It makes me wonder if Red Mages use swords of aetheric energy as their main hand, or if that's just Alisaie showing off.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

But her comment about studying multible schools of magic pretty much cements that she's some sort of proto-Red Mage.

It makes me wonder if Red Mages use swords of aetheric energy as their main hand, or if that's just Alisaie showing off.

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She's just showing off. If RDM gets in the game it'll probably be more along the lines of Ilberd's enspell type thing in that one cutscene.

I would certainly love it more if we could do what Alisaie did though despite me loving enspells.