Gender Change a Shocking Twist

What if you found out your best friend is transgender because he changed his sex when they release female Roegadyn... His parents disown him, he loses his job, becomes homeless.. all because we allowed gender change. PEOPLE lets not take this decision too lightly think about the implications.

But Irondude your playing a female character. Hey there is nothing freudian about my pick of female Miqo'te...... I just like to play dress up!

Hmm, isn't it just a game?

*yawn*

/10characters

Whut huh? All I remember is Male Miqo'te character sketch @ 11:43 on the vid!!!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

*yawn*

/10characters

---

yeah... because 4:30pm on a friday afternoon is so exciting in the ffxiv forums.

Then his parents are assholes, his work can be sued, and he doesn't have a very hardy ego.

<German philosopher accent>
What if he's always felt trapped in the wrong body!? Detach from your archaic gender role stereotypes! If you're not educated on the dimensions of biological, emotional, and behavioral engendered actions and perceptions, perhaps the casting of biased judgment on others means that the problem lies within, not with others!
</smokes pipe>

I believe last Friday we were discussing Donkey Knights. Which turned into:
http://donkeyknights.guildwork.com/

Think about the implications?
It's a game, people chose the way they wanted to be projected in-game after the offers we had when creating a character, it is only fair that we get the chance to change after they implement more offers, especially given that we are going to go through the character creation screen once again to update our characters for the 2.0 servers.

I won't be changing gender or race, maybe a few tweaks.

I think this response was a little too serious for this thread, lol.

If this thread ever gets taken seriously I'm going to shoot myself.

Actually, I was married to someone who came out as transgender, and was very happy that she had the option to change her male tauren main on WoW to something female that fit her better. People play MMOs a long time, and people change and grow. Especially with games like FFXI and FFXIV which are designed around having one character instead of a stable of alts, I think the ability to (infrequently) change otherwise immutable race/gender/name options is a good idea. And I'm thinking as much about the 22 year old who is kind of embarrassed by the character they made back when they were 14 as my ex who changed genders.

P.S. Sorry Cendres, I'll send flowers to your funeral. ;)

I believe a gender change is no more or less controversial than a race change.

Sure you can joke about "losing weight" when switching from a rogadyn to a Mi'quote... but you also grew a tail in the process and your facial structure changed and your bones shrunk too.

In fact, I would consider someone moving from cat-girl to cat-boy to be LESS drastic than going from a midget-girl to Merlwyb.

And if we're allowing racial morphing, gender morphing only becomes more logical.

If the player isn't comfortable changing gender, then that is up to them.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cendres

If this thread ever gets taken seriously I'm going to shoot myself.

---

me too lol

Think of the stress people might have when seeing that someone has changed gender!
Gods! I know friends who would literally faint if something like that happens.

For this things, let's have something like a "adjustable reality" where the game will blur reality a little if you don't feel
good enough to face it!

I'll bet money that Cendres and Irondude are both guys who like to watch their miquote "bounce" and are prob male playing female avatars for enjoyment, if they got sick of looking at a sexy cat girl and wanted to just have a regular, male, non-chauvinistic representation of their own gender, how is that shocking? and shouldn't they have the opportunity to make that change if desired.

Catapult makes a good point, how is race less controversial that gender?

Is the implication that the gaming community is more sexist than racist, or are they concerned that the lesbians will become female galka and the gays will switch to male miquote, effectively coming out of the online closet. What is happening here is potentially more than just a funny looking avatar overhaul. It will have sociological repercussions in-game, just wait. Players will get crap for being male miquote and knuckle draggers will think its funny to have a female galka named Rug Munch. Lets face it, the gaming community is mostly male, and they prob weren't the most socially adept, hence mmorg's.

Will all the nerds/bros will be bummed because they'll be faced with the realities of the ppl that actually exist in the world as opposed to the fantasy reality they choose to escape to everyday? I would hope that SE would realize that they have fans of all genders, races, and sexual orientations and if they come out with a character that someone more closely identifies with, it is not the company's place to ethically pass judgement on their consumers personal choices. Come on SE understand the implications of your statements, if you have a problem with it, don't make it an option.

Just because a lot of ppl in the gaming world are closed minded and incapable of change doesn't mean that SE should cater to their hostile ignorance.


What times the service on Wutai?

Because the world explodes before 2.0 comes out it has the effect of bringing out people true identities there Yoshi there is your excuse a small female lala can become a male rog. Let the traps be exposed lol!

To be honest I just want to see the new hairstyles.

Lol thread gets 10/10 haha

I know it's a joke and all, but I still don't know why the hell they're making this much of a fuss about allowing gender changes. Release it, let people decide if they wanna use it. Make it a 1 time deal thing. I've absolutely failed to see why this is such a problem besides the fact that Yoshi-P seems uncomfortable with the idea. Most of the player population wants it, I've seen more people for it than against it. So just release it, leave it as only a 1 time deal when first logging in after 2.0 goes live. The end.

EDIT: Something else to consider.

Taken from The "Letter from the Producer LIVE Part II" Video & Q&A Summary Released! thread.

Quote:

---

A: As I mentioned earlier, now is the only time where certain achievements are available. On top of that, we're currently working on something quite unique regarding the character's appearance. Please consider it a sign that the character has loved living throughout that era. And of course, they may be treated differently in game. For example, players' title may change as well as NPC reactions to them may differ.

---

By locking out character gender changing they're preventing players from carrying over these features. Someone who had started as a Miqo'te because they wanted to play a feline character cannot play as what they really wanted, a Miqo'te male, without restarting. Thus they don't get all these extra features such as the achievements, equipment only available during this era, and this appearance thing they're doing. On top of that, I believe it would also make you ineligible for the Goobbue mount they were considering.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rereyl

To be honest I just want to see the new hairstyles.

---

*shocked* that's even worse than gender change. /gasp