Estimated time before we can patch? Will it be sooner then launch?

Just wondering.. since this is my 1st time being around for a large patch.

Will we be able to patch before the servers are live? If so, what time does the launcher allow us to patch? Would hate to think it all happens at 6am EST as soon as 3.4 goes live..

Normally you should be able to patch around (earliest) 6pm / 9pm (latest) pst. However there have been a couple bigger patches, where the update wasn't available till midnight. I would just say check every 3 hrs and hope that the servers go online earlier than 3am. Again in the past mostly we have been back online at 1 or 2 am pst and the updates were available 4 hrs prior to that. :d

Oh my.. so you are saying it may not be 6am EST that everything is up, but in fact servers could be online earlier? Does this mean I should be up at 3am EST waiting? lol

God... Its UO Age of Shadows all over again... House hunting.

Edit: https://twitter.com/FF_XIV_EN/status/780466829860798464

Servers wont be online sooner.

Also be aware that if you're on a very populated server (not sure how Hyperion is these days) that there's usually plenty of issues with actually getting into the game. On Balmung it is a nightmare and usually takes about 30-45 minutes just to get in and then you need to keep your fingers crossed that the server doesn't explode.

I dont know WHY you all overpack Balmung.. I saw prices for things, I saw how no one gets a mouse plot really.. and yet people still transfer in.

Tho on the upside... did hear no RMT tells either.

Yeah 9/10 we can download the whole patch before the servers go live. Depending on your internet connection it should be downloadable like 1-3 hours before hand so by the time servers do go live you'd have the patch fully downloaded and ready to go. The only time it would go past it's patience schedule if something goes wrong which is rare.

for EST its normally about 6 am for servers...a couple hours before for patch download. However, if you are on one of the crazy servers like mine, id get up an hour earlier and check here and there

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Originally Posted by Mysticales

I dont know WHY you all overpack Balmung.. I saw prices for things, I saw how no one gets a mouse plot really.. and yet people still transfer in.

Tho on the upside... did hear no RMT tells either.

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It is the RP server, and I would've played on it too if it wasn't for two things:

1. NA server, now when we have EU data center I am never going to look back. I do rather play on the EU RP server, Odin, so that I can raid without dying to AoE circles despite being a mile out of them.

2. Legacy server meaning that the economy was ****** since day one. No way I would go to a server where I will have literally no hope to ever get a house or anything like that, and now I have friends on Odin, so really no point in changing now, is it?

EDIT: So yeah, if I lived in NA I would most likely play on Balmung now as the economy is slightly better balanced in between servers (i.e. most are equally bad). For RPers the RP server is a must no matter what.

Some of us are on Balmung because we have been there since 1.x's launch. After 2.0, people slowly started moving there, more and more. If they had let us transfer off at the beginning of 2.0, I probably would have, but now?

https://twitter.com/FF_XIV_EN/status/780466829860798464

The servers never come online early for major patches for obvious reasons

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Some of us are on Balmung because we have been there since 1.x's launch. After 2.0, people slowly started moving there, more and more. If they had let us transfer off at the beginning of 2.0, I probably would have, but now?

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They actually did allow complimentary transfers at the beginning of 2.0 for a brief period. I know this because i transferred off of balmung for free during that time.

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Originally Posted by Mysticales

I dont know WHY you all overpack Balmung.. I saw prices for things, I saw how no one gets a mouse plot really.. and yet people still transfer in.

Tho on the upside... did hear no RMT tells either.

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I came from Hyperion and the reason I left there is because it a dead server. A lot of people move to Balmung because it more active and there a mix of everything there. From endgame to causal and role playing. I may never get a house on Balmung but I'm more then glad to finally be on an active server and actually see people do things beyond content. PF full of people doing something also vs Hyperion where it very few. And I'm not sure what you mean by the prices, but Balmung a lot cheaper then Hyperion by miles in 95% of the MB.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Some of us are on Balmung because we have been there since 1.x's launch. After 2.0, people slowly started moving there, more and more. If they had let us transfer off at the beginning of 2.0, I probably would have, but now?

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Yea this is true, even if they did do a free transfer say in 4.0 it wouldn't matter anyways. Cause I have a medium house and like 20 mil on my retainer and for transfers can't bring house with and capped at what like 1 mil for transfer?

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Originally Posted by ChiiSoSeriouz

They actually did allow complimentary transfers at the beginning of 2.0 for a brief period. I know this because i transferred off of balmung for free during that time.

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Could only transfer to another legacy server, person didn't have free pick of any server they wanted.

There have been cases when major patches weren't available for download until the maintenance period was nearly over, so there was no advance downloading. Whoever had the fastest download speed was the first to be able to log in. SE usually tries to make the download server available at least a few hours ahead of the game servers, but I wish they'd be more consistent about that.

It'd also help if they'd include it in the schedule (servers going down at this time, patch downloads to be available this time, game servers to come back up at this time) so we could plan on it rather than staying up all night trying again and again until it works. (I'm sure we'll see threads here tonight going on and on about "can't connect yet, can you?" We get that with each major patch.)

At least this time, though, I'm in no hurry. I'll just start off the download before heading into work tomorrow, as I won't be ready to try it out until evening anyway.

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Originally Posted by Mysticales

I dont know WHY you all overpack Balmung.. I saw prices for things, I saw how no one gets a mouse plot really.. and yet people still transfer in.

Tho on the upside... did hear no RMT tells either.

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Some of us legit have friends here that we wish to play with, which means we bring our characters over, or in my case, actually make them on Balmung. Sorry for wanting to play with friends and playing on a server before it became perma locked. I'll be sure to remember next time I play a game to just make my friends abandon their level 50 character.

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Originally Posted by Mysticales

Just wondering.. since this is my 1st time being around for a large patch.

Will we be able to patch before the servers are live? If so, what time does the launcher allow us to patch? Would hate to think it all happens at 6am EST as soon as 3.4 goes live..

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Yes with in 3-6 Hr befor.

10 am gmt
3 am PST
6 am EDT

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Originally Posted by Mysticales

I dont know WHY you all overpack Balmung.. I saw prices for things, I saw how no one gets a mouse plot really.. and yet people still transfer in.

Tho on the upside... did hear no RMT tells either.

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no RMT, all towns are full of life, people everywhere, lots of pf up in comparison, marketboard is senselessly low on prices in comparison, mats generally sell for more than the finished product, interesting pf entries like looking for voidsent etc and there are lots of non-rp peeps too, just a mixture of everything

I wouldnt expect servers to be up till at 2am pacific at the minimum. Since its reset tuesday, I doubt they would allow for a quick one hour farm of new tomes before reset.

So I understand you all on Balmung. Is nice if you see custom stuff being done. I know last night I had a Bday party for someone irl within the game. Had about 30 ppl show up randomly from the server. ^^

So with the patch stuff... Will it auto change to "play" when the server comes online after a preload or will I need to restart XIV and log back in before that happens?

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Originally Posted by Mysticales

So I understand you all on Balmung. Is nice if you see custom stuff being done. I know last night I had a Bday party for someone irl within the game. Had about 30 ppl show up randomly from the server. ^^

So with the patch stuff... Will it auto change to "play" when the server comes online after a preload or will I need to restart XIV and log back in before that happens?

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Mine never changes its state from maintenance to active play button so I restart it. There will usually be a short pre download that is smaller in size that is not the main download but usually the pre download doesn't require log in, just starting the client itself if I recall correctly.

I think the launcher gets the update first, then you log in for the patch update. So you'll have to close the program and reopen to download when it's ready.

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Originally Posted by thegreatonemal

https://twitter.com/FF_XIV_EN/status/780466829860798464

The servers never come online early for major patches for obvious reasons

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This doesn't necessarily mean that we can't patch earlier. In the past, they sometimes had early completion time for the maintenance and the servers were available earlier. Obviously that won't happen because of the housing rush. However, the patch servers have always been up at least a bit before the live time if I remember right.

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Originally Posted by Chessala

This doesn't necessarily mean that we can't patch earlier. In the past, they sometimes had early completion time for the maintenance and the servers were available earlier. Obviously that won't happen because of the housing rush. However, the patch servers have always been up at least a bit before the live time if I remember right.

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I agree. Especially if you have slower internet speed, you can log in and at least download the patch earlier. Right now its about 3 hours before live time and I find it odd with no patch download up.

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Originally Posted by thegreatonemal

https://twitter.com/FF_XIV_EN/status/780466829860798464

The servers never come online early for major patches for obvious reasons

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They come up early more often than not. There's only 2 rules they follow:

1. servers never come up just before a weekly reset
2. if housing is being added they don't come up early at all so people aren't pressured into staring at the logon screen for hours

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Originally Posted by luckystrikes

I agree. Especially if you have slower internet speed, you can log in and at least download the patch earlier. Right now its about 3 hours before live time and I find it odd with no patch download up.

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I think it was as close as 1h before server opening before. I don't have slower internet anymore but I did during last patch and it really sucks having to wait 2h for the patch because of your slow connection AND the download servers being flooded.

I'm pretty bad at timezones. How much longer from now to maintenance ends?

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Originally Posted by Strains

I'm pretty bad at timezones. How much longer from now to maintenance ends?

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About 2 hours and 40 minutes from this post.

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Originally Posted by Strains

I'm pretty bad at timezones. How much longer from now to maintenance ends?

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A timer for you

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

patience is a virtue....I mean what is the hurry to see it up and rush to be the first ?...ugh people really...

Ohh wait no, you all want it asap but if something is not perfect you will be the first to complain that they should have waited a couple of hours more before sending it live

I mean seriously..you really have nothing else to do that your life dépends on this place ???

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So...someone just casually asks when maintenance ends and you are this rude to them?

They were just ASKING when maintenance ends. God forbid someone ask a question. Please just take your rude behavior somewhere else; this forum doesn't want you here if you are going to act like a rude child. You say they have nothing in their life for just asking when maintenance ends but you are wasting your life being a jerk for no reason whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

patience is a virtue....I mean what is the hurry to see it up and rush to be the first ?...ugh people really...

Ohh wait no, you all want it asap but if something is not perfect you will be the first to complain that they should have waited a couple of hours more before sending it live

I mean seriously..you really have nothing else to do that your life dépends on this place ???

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Wooooooah you need to chill out. A simple question was asked indicating the want to stay informed...nothing about it indicated that they are rushing. Damn you're rude as ****

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

patience is a virtue....I mean what is the hurry to see it up and rush to be the first ?...ugh people really...

Ohh wait no, you all want it asap but if something is not perfect you will be the first to complain that they should have waited a couple of hours more before sending it live

I mean seriously..you really have nothing else to do that your life dépends on this place ???

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Grinding virtues in Lotro is boring, my Patience is always low.

Have they added an extra hour to maintenace,With that timer that was posted means maintenace ends 11 am gmt time when it's was orginally 10 am ?

Wow almost 2 hours to go and no preload yet... guess back to bed for another 30 mins.

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Originally Posted by Anna_Heals

Have they added an extra hour to maintenace,With that timer that was posted means maintenace ends 11 am gmt time when it's was orginally 10 am ?

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We are on BST Anna not GMT :)

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Originally Posted by Anna_Heals

Have they added an extra hour to maintenace,With that timer that was posted means maintenace ends 11 am gmt time when it's was orginally 10 am ?

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It ends at 10am GMT. Current time in the UK is BST though which is one hour ahead, so 10am GMT occurs at 11am BST. I got caught out by this with the last patch :D

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

They come up early more often than not. There's only 2 rules they follow:

1. servers never come up just before a weekly reset
2. if housing is being added they don't come up early at all so people aren't pressured into staring at the logon screen for hours

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That's not entirely true. I've seen maintenance end early, an hour before weekly reset. That they won't come online before a reset is a common misconception. Tonight however is highly unlikely because of housing additions, also SE posted on twitter saying it won't.

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Originally Posted by Hirskuwil

It ends at 10am GMT. Current time in the UK is BST though which is one hour ahead, so 10am GMT occurs at 11am BST. I got caught out by this with the last patch :D

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Ok thanks i only started playing 3 weeks ago so this is my first update, I have been up all night and was thinking only over an hour left to go but then i saw the timer and now it's 2 hours, I'm only staying up so i can try and get an apartment.

i'm going to log on try and get an apartment then log off and sleep.

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Originally Posted by Anna_Heals

Ok thanks i only started playing 3 weeks ago so this is my first update, I have been up all night and was thinking only over an hour left to go but then i saw the timer and now it's 2 hours, I'm only staying up so i can try and get an apartment.

i'm going to log on try and get an apartment then log off and sleep.

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O well happy first patch day, it'll be the survival of the fittest wifi connection, people will be kicked and other will try to kill each other in the new PVP, it'll be like the hunger games but less fighting catniss and more fighting Effie, crazy people who have weird mismatch glamour. Especially on Balmung for the new apartments, btw happy birthday Google.