This is my first post as OP, so sorry if the idea sounds silly, it's more something to discuss really. Basically, I've noticed a lot of maps gone un-used, seal rock, secure, borderlands, etc. What I would like to propose, is rather than having people queue for individual maps like shatter, they should do away with making them individual maps and have people queue for frontlines only.
The maps would almost work as a roulette, so you would have one game in shatter, one game in seal, one game in secure, etc. It stops the modes from going stale and not only that, if people are queued for one thing only as opposed to several it would mean more frequent pops. The maps picked would be completely random, and the rewards for the maps should be made reasonable.
Bring Old PVP Maps back to life!
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09-20-2016, 11:14 PMYorunoBring Old PVP Maps back to life!
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09-20-2016, 11:15 PMYoruno
PART 2
I know plenty of people stuck on around 150 wins on seal rock unable to get that mount, and probably will never get it because it no longer pops unless people organise it, and even then, sometimes that doesn't work! Perhaps, they could increase the wins required for certain items/mounts rather than have them rewarded for doing individual maps.
Mainly because most people end up getting the mount and then just never queue-ing again. There are so many awesome game modes which are left unplayed, and I do realise by making it all level 60 content then people who are level 50 cannot pvp. But let's be serious for a moment, is pvp even alive for people who don't have a heavenward expansion?
There's probably a lot of gaps in my idea for this, but like I said, if anyone else has any ideas that could be put forward to the officials, I would love to see them on here.
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09-21-2016, 12:26 AMChaelynThe people who have 150 wins already have all the rewards from Seal Rock. The 200 wins mount can be obtainable from Shatter wins as well.Quote:
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09-21-2016, 01:01 AMYorunoWrong. You need 200 wins to get the mount from seal rock. The wins you get on shatter aren't shared for that particular acheivement.Quote:
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09-21-2016, 01:02 AMChaelynI'm assuming the mount you're talking about is the black ADS.... that specifically says 200 Frontlines wins with any 1 GC... Seal Rock and Shatter both count as Frontlines. You can get the horses, Black ADS, and the White ADS from Shatter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoruno
If you played in Shatter, won a game, and it did not update, it is because you swapped Grand Companies. To get the black ADS you need 200 wins in any ONE GC. For the White ADS you can get the 100 wins from any GCs even if you swap around. -
09-21-2016, 01:47 AMYoruno
The field commanders coat being another achievement which isn't shared by playing shatter. I've always been in adders and my win-rate for that particular achievement has still remained at 94. I started off in flames but switched to adders ages ago, I don't know if that's affected anything but beside the point I'm trying to make in this post. Anything that isn't already shared by playing shatter is rewards/achievements that are yet to be gained by people who have not played that mode, whatever it may be.
Hence why they should make a map roulette, similar to what they do for games like Overwatch, where you cycle between maps. Playing the same one constantly gets boring, and rather than pinpoint rewards on particular maps they should make the victories needed higher for it so it becomes more of a unique item and not something people can quickly queue for and then never queue again once they've got it. -
09-21-2016, 04:24 AMP4X0R10N
They should at the very least have a rotating weekend pvp bonus for frontlines. Like 15% more tomes and xp or something. That way people will have an incentive for queueing up for different frontlines.
Or they can rotate the pvp challenge log to correspond to a different battleground/Frontline everyweek. -
09-21-2016, 04:29 AMChaelynXP and marks, yes. Tomes? No. That'll make people come to play just for tomes and not learn the actual game mode.Quote:
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09-21-2016, 01:52 PMEnlialThe mount and achievement were around before seal rock even existed, so yeah.Quote:
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09-22-2016, 05:25 AMUnstablePersonalityYet the field commander coat doesn't count for shatter wins, that's motivation for me to keep trying.Quote:
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09-22-2016, 05:40 AMFebrus
The idea doesn't sound silly. Talk about rewards and all that aside, it would be worthwhile for SE to revitalize these maps just for the sake of variety. Playing the same thing over and over gets super boring, super fast. One of the main reasons people even try PvP is because they are tired of running the same dungeons and raids over and over, so variety is definitely a good thing.
Personally, I would love to see them bump up all of the previous FL game modes to lvl 60 and include them in the FL roulette, as well as cycle the maps throughout each game mode. Unfortunately, that will likely never happen. We've asked before. As of yet, I don' think SE has even given us a response to the request. -
09-22-2016, 06:07 AMUnstablePersonalityThis, shatter is the only thing that pops, I got bored with it pretty fast.Quote:
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09-22-2016, 06:59 AMUnittj
I had the rare chance to play a match in Borderlands, and seeing Carteneau outside of the SMN cutscene for the first time was a thrilling experience. And before I knew it, it was over. Guarantee you I might not get a chance to see that again for a while, despite how curious I am about that place.
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09-22-2016, 08:40 AMRilasha
If only we didn't have the option of choosing which map we wanted to play, so that the game chooses a random map for us to play on. This would be the only way the other maps would get played other than community event days. The problem is that people queue for Shatter only most of the time and that makes it pop every time. Even for the people who are queuing Frontlines Roulette or multiple maps at the same time.
I once queued for Seal Rock only and made it pop once so I could get my Keeper of Knowledge title (I was 299/300 tomelith captures). The queue was pretty long and it was only a 24 man. -
09-22-2016, 08:46 AMTiramisuMacaron
What if they removed roulette and added "mode of the day" or something? Mode of the day could be where the "frontline roulette" selection is, with the same rewards, but it could rotate through all the modes each day. Since we don't have 7 frontlines modes, I feel like it would work because the day of the week a specific map is on would change on a weekly basis.
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09-22-2016, 08:58 AMGuesswhat
1 suggestion I've had in the past was to add PvP to leves (IE a leve at wolves den). Have a quest NPC give out quests that cost a certain amount of leves. For example: you have 3 choices
(Maps must be randomized):
Complete a seize game as nr 1 or 2. OR
Complete a secure game as nr 1 or 2. OR
Complete a shitter game as nr 1 or 2.
While you're flagged on this quest, you queue as as any GC. If the instance is finalized satisfactory to the quest's demand, your reward should be awesome. The leve should also be somewhat expensive to avoid abusive atcions. -
09-23-2016, 11:08 AMNalien
I'm wondering if they could do a total rework of Frontlines when they update Adventurer Squadrons to let us take them into dungeons... Depends how that works exactly, but why not let us take them into PvP as well? Change it from 24v24v24, to something like 3v3v3 with the Adventurer Squadrons acting as fodder... Probably something to consider for an entirely new mode, to be honest, but it does let us have large scale battles without anywhere near the player requiremenets... IDK, blame For Honor for this suggestion...
Hmm... I like this idea... Might need to change the rewards up though, same as Roulette and it'll be the same "Do once and forget" sort of deal... I actually wouldn't mind it if they effectively halved Frontlines rewards, and added a Mode of the Day to provide the other half constantly... That would hopefully get people using the Mode of the Day all day, rather than doing it once and queuing Shatter again, although perhaps that wouldn't happen in the first place, maybe people would just keep queuing Secure if Secure is the Mode of the Day... Either way, definitely better than a Roulette which can plop you in a dead queue...Quote:
Originally Posted by TiramisuMacaron
Still need Secure and Slaughter being Lv60 of course... Shame they'll never even do that, this is a theme park MMO through and through... Decommissioned rides will remain as such... Logic and common sense be damned, this development team seems hell bent on just replacing content, rather than keeping it relevant and improving it... Can get that for most PvE stuff, but recent comments on Deep Dungeons and Exploration Missions just have me bashing my head against my desk, something else you can blame my previous suggestion on, I guess. -
09-23-2016, 12:58 PMMorningstar1337
If I were to change Frontlines I would...
- First i would make any map-exclusive rewards (White ADS and Fieldcommander's set) into Generic rewards (With the White drone being for reaching Rank 50 in any GV)
- Once I've ensured that. THEN I will eliminate the ability to queve for any map, leaving only the Roulette as an option (I will also be removing the Tome and Mark bonus)
- From there I will place a form of scaling on the maps. With Level 50, 60, 70 etc versions Depending on the lowest level of the players that queue. With an ilevel cap also based on the average instead of being a flat number
- Shatter's Tomelith's HP pools will be decimated (as in reduced by 9/10) in the Level 50 version, due to the lower scaling
- Afterwards, I'd probably add new maps on a more regular basis rather than once or twice a cycle an remove GC restrcitions