Anyone try "unorthodox" materia for Gladiator?

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11-10-2011, 04:42 PM
Estellios

Anyone try "unorthodox" materia for Gladiator?

I was talking it over with my Gladiator friend, and we were wondering if anyone has tried any non-HP materia setups for Gladiator. Mainly stuff like STR or Attack (since increasing your damage helps hold hate), DEX (increasing crit rate/block rate), or Evasion. Has anyone tried this and noticed any effects on performance? We'd like to know before we potentially waste money/time on materia and going around trying to find a crafter to meld them on.
11-10-2011, 04:59 PM
Lebannen

I think that would be a waste seeing as to how most GLA hold hate by vokes now, and self healing. Your better of putting enmity(touch of rage) on your sword instead of attack power.
11-10-2011, 05:07 PM
Rentahamster

Str and attack goes only on weapons and hands, so you have many other spots to put HP.

Dex hardly does anything to block and crit rate.
11-10-2011, 10:24 PM
slipmac

sword - hate
head - healing pot
body - vit
gloves - parry
belt - hate
legs - hp
feet - eva

i have hp on the shield but most the time im on ifrit when i play glad and i dont even equip it
this works pretty good for me

also what helps alot is having the axemanship like abilities set it helps your defender and bloodbath out alot. same for 2nd wind II and such
11-11-2011, 12:18 AM
syntaxlies

i have +10 enmity on my sword and +10 enmity on my belt. and go for def over hp were possible beings that def will help preserve the hp you already have. I saw a guy yesterday that managed to pull off multiple perfect tier4 materia attachments on his whole gear set. very impressive.
11-11-2011, 12:35 AM
Estellios

Thanks for the replies everybody. We'll try out some of your suggestions!
11-11-2011, 01:17 AM
Aratharn

Quote:

Originally Posted by slipmac

i have hp on the shield but most the time im on ifrit when i play glad and i dont even equip it
this works pretty good for me

So when you do Ifrit are you not tanking? I don't understand why you wouldn't have a shield equipped.

Quote:

Originally Posted by syntaxlies

i have +1- enmity on my sword and +10 enmity on my belt. and go for def over hp were possible beings that def will help preserve the hp you already have. I saw a guy yesterday that managed to pull off multiple perfect tier4 materia attachments on his whole gear set. very impressive.

Adding DEF is a waste IMO as adding +15 DEF to my pool of 900 isn't really going to be noticeable.
11-11-2011, 02:29 AM
Jet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aratharn

Adding DEF is a waste IMO as adding +15 DEF to my pool of 900 isn't really going to be noticeable.

Adding 15-20 def to your pool of 900 is roughly the same ratio as adding 60-70 hp to your pool of 4000. But if you add the def then your mages will be able to preserve mp/enmity.
11-11-2011, 02:46 AM
Aratharn

Fair point.

I've been meaning to test out some VIT builds.
11-11-2011, 04:33 AM
Estellios

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet

Adding 15-20 def to your pool of 900 is roughly the same ratio as adding 60-70 hp to your pool of 4000. But if you add the def then your mages will be able to preserve mp/enmity.

Yeah this was our reasoning for trying out Defense on spots that will take it. On this note, does anybody know if +Defense added on a shield is always-active or only active when you block with the shield? I can test it later but it would be nice if someone knew already.
11-11-2011, 05:14 AM
Aratharn

I think I would be more pro +DEF if you could put it onto as many spots as you can +HP.

Since only the body and shield can have +DEF equipped again, even though it will help, I don't see it being worth it as it won't be that noticeable. Especially since you take the shield out of the equation when you are tanking as MRD. Personal preference, I suppose.

Although I would be interesting in making a set of all +DEF and all +VIT gear just to see how it compares.
11-12-2011, 10:48 AM
GreyJorildyn

It should be noted that HP is advantageous in both physical and magic damage situations whereas defense only covers one of those.
11-21-2011, 01:26 PM
Quatre

If you guys also play other classes, You'll notice STR is outparsing on Fights like ifrit Versus Attack power. Since your STR is Vs. the Mobs VIT.

I'm led to believe that it's going to be a similar formula for your VIT. I believe the higher your VIT vs. the Mobs STR, the more your DEF Is going to do. I'll pop Rampart while tanking Ifrit and take the same amount of damage, But putting on VIT Rings has made a small difference in Dmg.

Let me know if you guys have found anything else yourselves. It could be the DEF From Rampart is currently bugged.

****It's important for all of the testing to be on IFRIT Or another HNM. Monsters that're NOT NM's Will not have as High of STR Thus your VIT/DEF Won't cap out at the same time as a HNM****
11-30-2011, 03:36 AM
Akuun

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estellios

I was talking it over with my Gladiator friend, and we were wondering if anyone has tried any non-HP materia setups for Gladiator. Mainly stuff like STR or Attack (since increasing your damage helps hold hate), DEX (increasing crit rate/block rate), or Evasion. Has anyone tried this and noticed any effects on performance? We'd like to know before we potentially waste money/time on materia and going around trying to find a crafter to meld them on.

DEX: Physical Attack Accuracy/Block Rate/Parry Rate
Dex does not effect crit or evasion, only +crit rate and +evasion
11-30-2011, 05:01 AM
Vexerus

Quote:

Originally Posted by slipmac

sword - hate
head - healing pot
body - vit
gloves - parry
belt - hate
legs - hp
feet - eva

i have hp on the shield but most the time im on ifrit when i play glad and i dont even equip it
this works pretty good for me

also what helps alot is having the axemanship like abilities set it helps your defender and bloodbath out alot. same for 2nd wind II and such

Gladiator cannot parry. (cannot parry in this game when wearing a shield)

Cool deal for Maurader though if that was what you were gettin at.