As a person who enjoys playing drg, I am tired of having to use my sprint and two jumps to chase ninjas, especially ones who attack me when im not bothering them in Frontlines. Since drgs do not have it, and monks are usually using Fists of Fire, ninja's have an unfair moving advantage (+, they can use ranged attacks and stuff too) Please remove this from them in Frontlines and Feast.
Also, please lower pld defense. As a melee, it is unfair for me to have to waste more time killing them than, say a blm casting sleep, since they can stun my team's healers. Please adjust this as it is ruining my pvp experience.
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08-30-2016, 08:02 AMVaeriaSE~ Please Remove Nin's Movement Enhancement and Lower Pld's Def
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08-30-2016, 08:41 AMEsp
As I don't PVP, I can see this as being a bit unfair to NINs. The trait itself isn't that overpowered, and sadly it almost as if NINs lost a useful trait that could have helped them in other areas. If they do even think of taking it away, there needs to be something to put in its place. NINs also aren't heavy armored DPS like DRG are, so a little bit more speed is justified.
As for PLD, again I don't PVP, but aren't PLDs the lowest damaging tank already? And yet you want to remove the only thing they really have, which is defense?
The request, seems odd to me. But I am sure more experienced PVPer will give their insight as to how bad the suggestions are.. -
08-30-2016, 08:43 AMNakanishi
If you're going to troll, can it at least be good and not so obvious?
Ninja doesn't have increased movement speed when their poisons are active. They have to drop the stance like monk has to switch to Fist of Wind for the speed.
PLD defense, get over yourself. lmao -
08-30-2016, 08:50 AMPraesul
NIN got their movespeed passive reworked like ages ago, I think when Slaughter was released? It's disabled if they have either of their poisons on.
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08-30-2016, 08:59 AMEspOh wow, which makes this request even worse. Good info to know though xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Praesul
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08-30-2016, 09:28 AMMaikoRaines
In the quiet words of the Virgin Mary: Come again?
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08-30-2016, 11:03 AMFebrusThis ... is a joke, right? Please tell me it's a joke ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Vaeria
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08-30-2016, 11:07 AMDivinemightsHe is just trolling. He also forgot about to ask for the removal of rouge trait All Fours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Februs
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08-30-2016, 12:51 PMEvangela
Try harder, bro.
Baiting shouldn't be allowed on this forum. -
08-30-2016, 06:08 PMEnlial
Every job other than mine should be nerfed.
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08-30-2016, 06:41 PMxxczx
Why can NIN jump from cliffs and not die!?!?!? I'M A DRAGOON WHY DO I TAKE FALLING DAMAGE????? NERF SE ONE CLASS HAS SOMETHING I DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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08-31-2016, 04:46 AMMaikoRainesYou know, I often wonder if there's any Lore involved on why Ninja's can jump a bajillion feet from the sky to the ground, but if a Dragoon so much stubs its toe when it leaps off a cliff, it is facing death's door.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxczx
Anonymoose? Can someone dust him off and show him this thread please? -
08-31-2016, 04:58 AMSuirieko
It's not like you have multiple stuns as DRG...
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08-31-2016, 05:26 AMxxczxevery melee class has two stunsQuote:
Originally Posted by Suirieko
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08-31-2016, 05:32 AMFebrusI'm not gonna lie, this question has always been a curiosity of mine as well. Dragoon's signature move is their ability to jump dramatic distances. It's featured in various cutscenes and is built into the lore of them snagging dragons. It was also incorporated into the story when they send Estinien to go gather stuff out of trees because he'd have the easiest time leaping among the branches; yet, despite this, Nin's get the passive fall dmg trait ... I don't have a nin at max level, but is there an actual reason for this in their lore? Cuz' from where I'm sitting it doesn't seem to make sense ...Quote:
Originally Posted by MaikoRaines
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08-31-2016, 05:33 AMCanadane
Well there's a difference between jumping and falling.
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08-31-2016, 05:59 AMEvangela
It's the art of self-protection while landing. Like in Judo, they train themselves how to land on the ground.
Dragoons are trained to fight flying dragons and when they jump, they supposed to land on a dragon, not falling to the ground. -
09-03-2016, 02:29 AMVaeria
Back sorry, and no, Im not trolling. Theres just too much OP stuffs in pvp and stuff ; ; Like for example..blm sleep lasts 45 sec...it should be lowered to maybe 30 at most. Plds really do have too much def (it takes sooo much time to kill one, its soo hard ; ;) But most of all, nin needs to be fixed. A skilled nin's burst is too strong, + they have like a LOT of ranged attacks...and, and stuff.
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09-03-2016, 02:31 AMKoltikI don't like you, but I like this post. Thanks for the laugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vaeria
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09-03-2016, 03:01 AMDarkstrideI think it's just because Ninja came after the other existing jobs and SE was scrambling to make unique traits for it. I don't think there was any mentality of "Ninjas land better than Dragoons", it's just because Dragoon and its traits already existed when Ninja was introduced. SE probably just thought "hey, Ninjas are stealthy, they can probably land safely like a cat, right?". Let's give them that special trait.Quote:
Originally Posted by Februs
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09-03-2016, 05:47 AMDivinemightsNah, this is just a common conception error that made by non-Japanese. Ninjas are not "Ninja Warriors" as we commonly recognized in pop culture. In the Japanese history about 200 to 300 years ago, they are just bunch of people specialized in sabotage, espionage, assassination, and scouting. It is like modern special agents of ancient time. The so called ninjutsu has nothing to do the wit these mudras, it is simply a teaching of "how to" sabotage, espionage, assassination, and scouting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkstride
These people are just normal farmers that taking mercenary on hire. Some higher rank Ninjas may be trained with combat skill, but most of them just trained with a technique similar to mode parkour. It does make sense for Ninja to have this trait in game simply it is a combination of Ninja + Rogue where parkour should be the basic requirement.
Also, dragoon do exist in realize, and often just bunch of calvary with heavy lance and armor. I do not expect them can even jump