Customizing i240 relic for PvP

I've seen this pic floating around with secondary stat caps in lv.60 PvP

http://i.imgur.com/EEliEFg.png

Now, the question is, how exactly are stats downsynched to i150 caps?
i240 relic has 240 secondary stats, so if I have 120 crits, 115 det (relic's cap) and 5 ss, it'll be synched to 56 crits, 53 det and 5 ss?
But what if my relic has 56 crits, 56 ss, 56 pie, 53 det, 19 acc (240 total), will these stats synch without change, or they all be roughly halved?

gear with more than two secondary stats gets synced way harsher (see: diadem gear).

relic weapon will never be considered bis for pvp. better to go with i205, which is technically a higher ilvl weap than relic in pvp.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

But what if my relic has 56 crits, 56 ss, 56 pie, 53 det, 19 acc (240 total), will these stats synch without change, or they all be roughly halved?

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As far as I'm aware, these stats will sync without change, as the sync simply caps the stats at the maximum eligible value - the total cap. I mused about the possibilities of this in another thread already actually, but I'm not inclined to give a clear:"Yes!" without at least one person confirming.

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Originally Posted by xxczx

gear with more than two secondary stats gets synced way harsher (see: diadem gear).

relic weapon will never be considered bis for pvp. better to go with i205, which is technically a higher ilvl weap than relic in pvp.

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Morale doesn't work in lv.60 pvp as intended (it only upgrades i180 pvp gear to 'i210' so both secondaries are synched to i150 capped) and i190 or i205 or i245 PvE weapons have the same secondary stats when synched to i150. Diadem gear is an exception as all secondary stats are ignored when synched.

I have i240 relic with 56 crit/acc/speed, 53 det, and 19 piety. The stats all work in PvP

I have the same thing and I can confirm it works.

Assumed so, but good to know. I was wondering if relics still worked that way. Thank o7

So relic IS best-in-slot weapon for PvP. You'd think a leader of PvP based FC would know these thngs.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

Morale doesn't work in lv.60 pvp as intended (it only upgrades i180 pvp gear to 'i210' so both secondaries are synched to i160 capped) and i190 or i205 or i245 PvE weapons have the same secondary stats when synched to i160. Diadem gear is an exception as all secondary stats are ignored when synched.

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i205 with +40 morale means it's i245 weapon before sync when entering PvP area. Take the patch where it made how cast interruption is made and i205 PvP weapon is best for this. And no, not all weapons have the same secondary stats when synced, some have more crit, det, etc than others and some have less; this is how you can fine tune your gear to get the best possible stats for Crit/Det.

Did you miss the patch where Diadem gear works? I guess you did. And I appreciate your call out on your last post, but I have no tested this or heard of anyone that has so I was just going off the assumption of how Diadem gear works. I fail to see how relic weapon is BiS still.

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Originally Posted by xxczx

i205 with +40 morale means it's i245 weapon before sync when entering PvP area. Take the patch where it made how cast interruption is made and i205 PvP weapon is best for this. And no, not all weapons have the same secondary stats when synced, some have more crit, det, etc than others and some have less; this is how you can fine tune your gear to get the best possible stats for Crit/Det.

Did you miss the patch where Diadem gear works? I guess you did. And I appreciate your call out on your last post, but I have no tested this or heard of anyone that has so I was just going off the assumption of how Diadem gear works. I fail to see how relic weapon is BiS still.

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You need only i190 to cap both secondaries when synched to i150. Cast interruptions are based on ilevel which is, once again, capped at i150. You'll not get less interruptions in i240 gear lmao. And I tested diadem gear stats recently and they still haven't worked, despite being in patch notes.

Someone itches to be suspended for harassment.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

Someone itches to be suspended for harassment.

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Not really, but hey, do what you gotta do.

I would be happy if you left this thread at least knowing that in pvp you get synched down to i150 and not i160...a man can dream right?

i160 was a typo. And it's obviously I don't play as much as others and my pvp experience is limited, but yeah, I have zero skills, sucessfully healing through three Golds bursts with only 3 deaths in my team while other team has 9 deaths with a much better healer.
http://i.imgur.com/QjrIKLk.png?1

Bad dps confirmed.
http://i.imgur.com/NXUxxhJ.png?1

"no skill"
http://i.imgur.com/xs4oTCP.png?1

"and 0 multiplied by any other number"
http://i.imgur.com/6GvLEn9.png?1

"is still equal to 0."
http://i.imgur.com/gflZZ42.png?1

Was it really needed to post that many screenshots just because of one comment from him.xD

I was most impressed by that BLM in the first screenshot myself lol. The Feast screenshots on SMN were very nice. The frontlines ones are average though for a decent smn.

In the first screenshot you have the top paladin and blm of the datacenter baby sitting you vs some pretty below average tank and melee. You hardly had to do anything to survive and get that win.

In the second screenshot you are playing vs complete randoms even 1 unranked healer.
The poor guy was probably back padling while dying and never played feast again because i have never seen him.

The frontlines one just lol. For all i care those could be matches vs randoms without heal doing frontline roulette for esos/lore. I'm sure people can link you here screens with 20+ kills.

The patch notes were pretty vague about the change to aetherial gear. Im told that it was actually a buff but they still arent very good when sync'd. And Im very glad for that... grinding diadem for pvp gear? no thanks.

An oddball factor that might need to be looked at for weapons, if you really want to decide whats best in slot, is the weapon speed. It looks like what happens is that the auto-attack's DPS (auto-attack dmg divided by weapon speed) syncs. Speed will stay the same but auto-attack dmg gets scaled down so that DPS equals whatever a 150 weapon has. Im inclined to think that slower/hits-harder is a bit better since you arent going to have constant range/los in pvp. This is just for auto attacks + certainly not going to have a huge impact on things but it might be more significant than bonus secondaries, at least for non-casters.