The majority of new characters are bots

Example here: http://imgur.com/a/jXMbK

Theres plenty more on the list.

I have seen them teleport around and glitch out and moving in groups, theres so many it makes me feel like I am playing a F2P MMO.

It never used to be like this.

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Originally Posted by MaFi0s0

Example here: http://imgur.com/a/jXMbK

Theres plenty more on the list.

I have seen them teleport around and glitch out and moving in groups, theres so many it makes me feel like I am playing a F2P MMO.

It never used to be like this.

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I don't know. I've seen bots like that for years.

Recently, a lot less, but thats because im on Gilgamesh.

It has actually always been like this, at least on some servers. They will stand at Northern Thanalan in groups of 4 and teleport away in parties. SE are aware though, the best thing you can do is report them, although they definitely need an easier report system for the amount of bots there currently is.

surprised that bots are now archers instead of thm :confused:

It's SO hard to implement a right click, report, botting.... >.>

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surprised that bots are now archers instead of thm :confused:

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archer is the best class to farm item drops from enemies.

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surprised that bots are now archers instead of thm :confused:

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That was just one section.

So the list was 200, about 170 were bots. It was a search for new players.


Its dumb a sub based MMO cant do checking for cheating like this, I just watched one teleport to each enemy farming.

I checked and the popularity is:

Arch, THM, to a much lesser degree PUG.

In one pic here you can see the demographics of new characters 1-5. 80% are bots! shocking. http://imgur.com/a/gorgG

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Well what i have seen in Cerberus server most bots uses Black mage to farm stuff from duty finder (I have seen many bot groups that are afk in same place disappearing and appearing every 5-20 min) and last week i saw was it group of 5-7 Black Mage bots with no-clip hack (I saw them inside the ground killing enemies) and speed hack.

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Funny I am seeing the same on Tonberry. LV35-45 BLMs in duty finder with keymash names.

Stop buying gil from RMT services then.

We have a ton of new leafs on Siren and they're not bots.

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It has actually always been like this, at least on some servers. They will stand at Northern Thanalan in groups of 4 and teleport away in parties. SE are aware though, the best thing you can do is report them, although they definitely need an easier report system for the amount of bots there currently is.

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I think we'll get that in 3.4 :)

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Well what i have seen in Cerberus server most bots uses Black mage to farm stuff from duty finder (I have seen many bot groups that are afk in same place disappearing and appearing every 5-20 min) and last week i saw was it group of 5-7 Black Mage bots with no-clip hack (I saw them inside the ground killing enemies) and speed hack.

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Jeez, no wonder why queue time are so long if they are full of DPs bots oO

I always see them in Ul'dah with their BLM trio. I think occasionally I can see the person controlling them, because there's sometimes a random new player with the standard Hyuran look targetting them.

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We have a ton of new leafs on Siren and they're not bots.

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I am one of those new leafs. :)

I haven't run across any of these bots on Siren, but I can understand why Square Enix is hesitant to go after them. It is hard to regulate, not a lot of return value if they get rid of then, and they are there because of the market for illegal money (so the real players are causing this issue). Do they cause issues other than perhaps making waits longer? I guess it would stink to get grouped with them in a duty finder now that I think about it.

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surprised that bots are now archers instead of thm :confused:

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They only grind archer to 15 to become blm.

Quarrymill on Cerberus this morning. A horde of them appeared right in front of the NPC that allows you to enter the Palace of the Dead.
Funny thing, there were over hundreds seeming to defy gravity itself and jump in a huge distance right in the middle of the NPCs themselves which suggest they do the Main Story Quests.

This caused Sprouts and other Players asking if this is "Common" in this Game...

Reporting them might be a thing ... let alone Reporting one, due of their awful Name Combinations....

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Example here: http://imgur.com/a/jXMbK

Theres plenty more on the list.

I have seen them teleport around and glitch out and moving in groups, theres so many it makes me feel like I am playing a F2P MMO.

It never used to be like this.

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Maybe your like that kid from Sixth Sense who can see bots "I see bots @.@"

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surprised that bots are now archers instead of thm :confused:

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they didn't get that memo on leviathan. We still do it old school with thm.

Its not against forum policy to list names or have screenshots showing names? Even if they may be rmt...

Not really sure what you are expecting in making this thread.... are you just making an observation? Are you expecting SE to do something about it? What exactly CAN they do that wouldn't also hurt actual real new players who are also among those, even if a small percentage?

Next time I make an alt, I'm going as a THM and gonna let my cat walk across the keyboard for the name.

On topic, they've been around forever. This is not new.

My blacklist has been at 200/200 for months and I can't remember the last time a (deleted) showed up.

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My blacklist has been at 200/200 for months and I can't remember the last time a (deleted) showed up.

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Banned characters aren't deleted actually. That might be the reason.

Can concur, it's always been like this. They simmer down sometimes, but they're always there lurking.

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On topic, they've been around forever. This is not new.

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when it is not new, then it isn't a problem o.o/

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when it is not new, then it isn't a problem o.o/

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wrong, it's called feature and working as intended.

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Banned characters aren't deleted actually. That might be the reason.

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Well that's definitely the problem then. If these characters are permanently banned why aren't they deleted after a certain time?

Never used to be like this? I remember groups of em favored a camp in La Noscea back in 1.xx, ohhh the lag!

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Well that's definitely the problem then. If these characters are permanently banned why aren't they deleted after a certain time?

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Why bother? Account can't be used anyway.

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Well that's definitely the problem then. If these characters are permanently banned why aren't they deleted after a certain time?

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Because that would free up said Cat-On-Keyboard name again to be used. Slowly locking up names may be the slowest way to combat RMT, but ultimately there are only so many millions of combinations of letters they can mash to get names. Also, the banned characters/accounts may not be deleted for archival sake to track other account data not readily available to us which SE uses to help it fight the War on Drug-I mean RMT.

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They only grind archer to 15 to become blm.

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ah so finally learned about JOB , instead of being THM forever :rolleyes:

SE needs to start doing something , but like FFXI they are probably overun by bots and by the time they do something is too little to late

but why there are gil selleres ? because there are gil buyers , and why there are gil buyers ? outside glamour items (pets included), and consumables...or maybe leveling DOH/DOH there is little need to have millions of gil

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Not really sure what you are expecting in making this thread.... are you just making an observation? Are you expecting SE to do something about it? What exactly CAN they do that wouldn't also hurt actual real new players who are also among those, even if a small percentage?

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Im venting my shock, thats pretty much it, I understand they need to investigate before banning them but the amount on currently is making me think that my botanist and weaver could be an epic waste of time.

I actually agree with OP, there really is a vast increase in bots and yes they are now archers, lol
The problem is the lazy players that insist on buying from these jerks

The only solution is to do what WoW did and allow players to pay sub time with Gil, this legalizes gold buying while giving the money to the devs.

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I actually agree with OP, there really is a vast increase in bots and yes they are now archers, lol
The problem is the lazy players that insist on buying from these jerks

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But I don't want to grind for shards. So boring. I'd rather be lazy and spend a portion of my profits to purchase them from the MB at the cheapest price.

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The only solution is to do what WoW did and allow players to pay sub time with Gil, this legalizes gold buying while giving the money to the devs.

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you are missing the part that the devs have to sell the gil, otherwise only the gil seller mafia is making real money x)

Seen them in Uldah hanging at the aether. Wearing the same gear and white pointed staff. Normally around the late hours around 2am to 6am on saragatanas

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you are missing the part that the devs have to sell the gil, otherwise only the gil seller mafia is making real money x)

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Player A buys time token. Player B is rich crafter and pays gil to buy time token from Player A.

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I actually agree with OP, there really is a vast increase in bots and yes they are now archers, lol
The problem is the lazy players that insist on buying from these jerks

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I hope you realize that this includes buying shards, crystals and clusters off the market board. They're supposed to be a stable in the player driven market considering how much they're needed for crafting in general, but yeah.

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Player A buys time token. Player B is rich crafter and pays gil to buy time token from Player A.

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Broken down to its essentials it does 3 things:

1) Its main thing, people who would otherwise buy Gil from RMT farmers instead are buying tokens from the Mog Station, along with honest players.

2) It redistributes Gil a little, eg rich players buy the tokens from the MB giving poor players Gil. This improves the economy greatly.

3) Allows more poeple to play: a) People who dont have time to farm for Gil and mats, b) People who dont want to pay a monthly sub.

Its win win for players and devs and a kick in the teeth to RMT.

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I hope you realize that this includes buying shards, crystals and clusters off the market board. They're supposed to be a stable in the player driven market considering how much they're needed for crafting in general, but yeah.

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Players always have the option to use retainers to gather if you do not like to gather...
The amount of rmt has got real bad again as of late, always those damn bots in Gridania by the marketboard
Players alone are the main reason why rmt is so bad