Food displaying what stats it gives - confirmed

And it's as horrible as people thought it would be. It's as carebear as it comes. Why does SE feel we need to be treated like babies? Do we need to know every little thing in the game just so the elitist min/maxers can feel superior for doing 1.1 more dps?

What happened to the mystery, the intrigue, the thrill of figuring things out on your own? What's next, we being able to see the damage amounts on skills? The game would be boring if we knew a skill added 200 damage to our normal attack and etc.

If they keep this up the game will be ruined and filled with WoW kiddies looking for a new game to infest and cry that things are too hard.

Nobody actually figured that stuff out on their own, though; enterprising folks did science on the game mechanics in FFXI, for example, and reverse engineered how a lot of stuff worked, and figured out how to maximise their potential... which it seems like you're against in principle, so I'm sort of confused?

In any event, FFXIV is a different game, there's absolutely no reason -not- to encourage more transparency. I guess it sucks if you're one of the people who liked to do science on things that were non-obvious in FFXI, and I can absolutely sympathise with that viewpoint, but for the vast majority of the playerbase, actually knowing the import of actions and choices that you make like what food to eat without having to rely on someone else's research on a wiki that may or may not exist makes the game /drastically/ better.

Yeah, it's awful that people might actually know what the heck they're doing in a game and the rule they're playing with. How terrible!

Wait no I meant the exact opposite of that. What in the world is so wrong with being able to get a firm understanding of the way the game works, simply by looking at the items you're using? If anything, stats being hidden helps the 'elitist min/maxers' more than anyone else. Not all of us have the time to invest hours of our lives parseing numbers to maybe kind of sort of figure out what any given one thing might do.

I know I love looking at a trait that says "Increases emnity generated by all actions by 10" and having no clue what that could mean for my character or others.

I agree with O.P. in principle but I don't think knowing the stats which food provide is really the perfect example of this problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trkoj933Mfg

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Originally Posted by EmeraldHill

And it's as horrible as people thought it would be. It's as carebear as it comes. Why does SE feel we need to be treated like babies? Do we need to know every little thing in the game just so the elitist min/maxers can feel superior for doing 1.1 more dps?

What happened to the mystery, the intrigue, the thrill of figuring things out on your own? What's next, we being able to see the damage amounts on skills? The game would be boring if we knew a skill added 200 damage to our normal attack and etc.

If they keep this up the game will be ruined and filled with WoW kiddies looking for a new game to infest and cry that things are too hard.

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Yes, because eating some food, opening your Attributes tab, and taking note of the difference before and after is so mysterious and intriguing. The elitist min/maxers figured out damage formulas, and had BiS gear sets figured out as soon as new gear came out in XI. There was no mystery or intrigue. There was only ignorant players who thought their "lol my $15 a month" gear/SJ/strategy etc. was fine.

Also, I'd be fine with dynamic tooltips that displayed damage. That way I don't have to alt+tab out to go read about the poor guy who hit 50,000 level 1 mobs to figure everything out. The world and story should be mysterious and intriguing. Not things like stats, abilities, and fundamental game mechanics.

Of all the things to complain about...

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Originally Posted by Blarp

Yes, because eating some food, opening your Attributes tab, and taking note of the difference before and after is so mysterious and intriguing. The elitist min/maxers figured out damage formulas, and had BiS gear sets figured out as soon as new gear came out in XI. There was no mystery or intrigue. There was only ignorant players who thought their "lol my $15 a month" gear/SJ/strategy etc. was fine.

Also, I'd be fine with dynamic tooltips that displayed damage. That way I don't have to alt+tab out to go read about the poor guy who hit 50,000 level 1 mobs to figure everything out. The world and story should be mysterious and intriguing. Not things like stats, abilities, and fundamental game mechanics.

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You're a new player.
You go to Wards.
Decide to look at what food would be nice.
???
Go to sites and hope to God the information is updated/is there at all.

Or:

Go to Wards.
See something you like.
Buy it.

... people asked for this, they're delivering. Good.

Mystery and intrigue can still exist in the game, but I believe that game mechanics, the simple knowledge of HOW TO PLAY THE GAME should not be be hidden. As it is, people rarely use food, culinarian is borderline useless. Most players aren't going to try out every single piece of food in the game, compare data across thousands of sample monsters to extrapolate which ones are best to use in a given situation. They will either look it up online, or just not bother.

By your logic, equipment shouldn't have stats on it either. We shouldn't be able to tell if this new body piece enhances accuracy, or if it's magic attack. Heck, it could not even be wearable by your rank or level just by looking at it, all that's there is a name and some flavor text.

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Originally Posted by EmeraldHill

And it's as horrible as people thought it would be. It's as carebear as it comes. Why does SE feel we need to be treated like babies? Do we need to know every little thing in the game just so the elitist min/maxers can feel superior for doing 1.1 more dps?

What happened to the mystery, the intrigue, the thrill of figuring things out on your own? What's next, we being able to see the damage amounts on skills? The game would be boring if we knew a skill added 200 damage to our normal attack and etc.

If they keep this up the game will be ruined and filled with WoW kiddies looking for a new game to infest and cry that things are too hard.

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Oh for the love of christ, get real.

I'm sure you were filled with a sense of mystery and intrigue when you went on Somepage or (insert XI site here) and looked up the stats for food in XI. How mysterious and intriguing! To think, all that mystery and intrigue would have been lost if the stats were displayed in-game instead of on a dozen different easily-accessible websites!

I'm laughing at how many people missed the part where this is a troll response to the "Jumping Confirmed" thread. Same opening post.

I didn't see this mentioned in the transcript I read. Glad to hear it though.

When I grow food behind my moglesshouse, will I be able to sell it as organic in the market wards? That's what I really want to know.

Equipment shouldn't have stats on it, should just be cosmetic and let strategy and skills be more a factor.

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Originally Posted by EmeraldHill

Equipment shouldn't have stats on it, should just be cosmetic and let strategy and skills be more a factor.

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Your OP was a good troll, but you lost your touch with this one ^

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Originally Posted by EmeraldHill

And it's as horrible as people thought it would be. It's as carebear as it comes. Why does SE feel we need to be treated like babies? Do we need to know every little thing in the game just so the elitist min/maxers can feel superior for doing 1.1 more dps?

What happened to the mystery, the intrigue, the thrill of figuring things out on your own? What's next, we being able to see the damage amounts on skills? The game would be boring if we knew a skill added 200 damage to our normal attack and etc.

If they keep this up the game will be ruined and filled with WoW kiddies looking for a new game to infest and cry that things are too hard.

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You contradict yourself or just don't understand what you are talking about, maybe both.

How can something be "carebear" and "elitsist" at the same time.

I am in favour of knowing all the details the game has to offer, including how much stats increase our damage by.

Nobody wants mystery anymore the days of games like FF11 where everything is hidden from the player is over with, thank god SE are realising this.

I think SE would be glad to have all the "WoW kiddies" infesting their game and paying good money to do so.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

You contradict yourself or just don't understand what you are talking about, maybe both.

How can something be "carebear" and "elitsist" at the same time.

I am in favour of knowing all the details the game has to offer, including how much stats increase our damage by.

Nobody wants mystery anymore the days of games like FF11 where everything is hidden from the player is over with, thank god SE are realising this.

I think SE would be glad to have all the "WoW kiddies" infesting their game and paying good money to do so.

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He's parodying (satirizing?) another thread. It's not a real thread. I fell for it, too. QQ

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Originally Posted by Answa

He's parodying (satirizing?) another thread. It's not a real thread. I fell for it, too. QQ

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Aww damn, you never can tell on here.

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Originally Posted by AlphaDragoon

I'm laughing at how many people missed the part where this is a troll response to the "Jumping Confirmed" thread. Same opening post.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOP-2ulq2bk

It's me.

I was HUNGRY.