The Fate of Stars [SPOILER Discussion]

WARNING: If you have not completed The Fate of Stars Quest avoid this thread.

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So how do you feel about this quest? Was it enjoyable or not?

For me I found this quite nice as for once we can actually feel like the Warrior of Light the game constant makes our character to be only to have it stripped of its meaning for the MMO aspect of the game's experience.

Don't get me wrong I enjoy the MMO experience but when the story constant says our character single handedly defeated X Boss and X Primal alone without any help but in reality we actually had help (up to 3 or 7 others helping us) it starts losing a bit of the impact in the story.

I was disappointed because i did not get the memo that it was just a quest... and it didn't actually lead up to anything...

I thought they were really good at hiding the identity of the next trial boss.

Quite often in the story I noticed that it references you had help from other adventurers.

But if unrecognized help was your complaint, why do you reference this particular quest?

Cause we get to fight a heavily nerfed version of a normal dungeon boss solo?

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Originally Posted by TankHunter678

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I already said it in my OP that i enjoy the quest as it is a quest that actually put our character as the actual Warrior of Light.

While some events we have help mentioned for minor things there are Major events where in the Lore/story it is considered that we defeated these boss/primals alone.

Thordan, for example, story wise was defeated by the Warrior of Light alone without any help along with Ravana, ifrit, Garuda, Titan, Levianthan, and etc. Heck the entire Aetherochemicl Research Facility Dungeon leading up to the end of 3.0 final boss in story/lore perspective was that the Warrior of Light solo his way through the entire dungeon single handedly defeating all the boss and enemies in his path. It always felt out of place that these mighty creatures are said to be defeated by the Warrior of Light alone when we actually had help. Just once in a while it is nice we actually experience the story perspective of the events rather than a altered event through the MMO perspective.

I think I would have liked this if it wasn't part of the Warring Triad questline. Bismarck and Ravana EX, Sephirot, all of those were challenges to go through. Then we get this and just smash the face in of everyone, it was too easy!

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

I think I would have liked this if it wasn't part of the Warring Triad questline. Bismarck and Ravana EX, Sephirot, all of those were challenges to go through. Then we get this and just smash the face in of everyone, it was too easy!

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Probably would have been Aetherochemical Research Facility Hard if they stuck with 3 dungeons per Major update. However, with 2 dungones per patch now not much we can do until the real Hard version appears in probably 5.X.

I really liked this actually... even the solo fight.
I can't wait till the next part of the story!

Good to see SE doing more solo instances in this game. I personally like it because it felt like this is something the WoL actually does alone and it fits the story. So SE do more solo instances its really good for story.

The song that plays in the fight... Dear god I'll be buying the OST for that song alone.

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Originally Posted by Averax

I was disappointed because i did not get the memo that it was just a quest... and it didn't actually lead up to anything...

I thought they were really good at hiding the identity of the next trial boss.

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The quest did surve its purpose as a Character development and story progression for Warring Triad Storyline. Not to mention cover the current position of the Garleans as they have yet to fully repair their new Capital Flagship the Gration and while it is being repaired they are constantly raiding the place for any Allagan technology and knowledge.

The Warring Triad Story would have been part of the Main Scenario in 3.X due to it relating back to important events in 3.0 but since they separated it into a side storyline for 3.X, and one that is quite important as it shows what the Garleans are doing in Azys Lla, it is a welcome quest in my book.

With the Gration purpose is to replace the Agrius for the future Garlean Invasion it is only a matter of time before the Gration is operational again and things begin to lead into the next Garlean Invasion of Eorzea which if 4.0 is Ala Mhigo we may experience as the 4.X storyline.

I liked it, I also liked how the Scions play a role for once, instead of anonymous adventurers who help you do something. I know some people might not like it, but I realy hope Warrior of Darkness(eses?) will face the Warrior of Light and the Scions and not the group of adventurers.

Or atleast make one fight between WoD vs Scions + WoL and then they do something to transform into something (bad guys always transform in to somehing worse, RITAAAAAAAAAAAA) this foe we can beat as a group.

I like the solo instances we've been getting lateky, though for me the grand melee in the previous patch was better. Dueling Raubhan as an Immortal Flames paladin from Ul'dah just felt right.


I've never minded the discordance between group fights being referred as solo achievements. The way I see it, the Warrior of Light is so powerful in the Echo, and has access to the memories and experiences of all previous WoL, that when he needs numbers he simply projects those into aetheric bodies that fight alongside him.

None of us really exists, we're all images and memories given temporary form.

As for where the story goes from here, I say we take over the Gration in 3.5 and use it to invade Garlemald in 4.0.

It was rather fun. I first tried it as DK and that one fight with the casting going on... i was just slightly short on the damage. Went back as blm had plenty of time to spare, and also noticed Y'shtola used a barrier which i had not noticed the first time went in. :/
I hope SE add more such instances of single player stuff aside from the Palace of The Dead coming soon.
@ Laerune: i also would like to confront those chumps that are Warriors of Dark, my understanding is that their Powers are not at all like ours (aside from them being dark obviously) we would totally mop the floor with them seeing what we have all vanquished :)

I'm actually floored right now that nobody has brought up the fact that ukulele is a FREAKING ALIEN.

More solo bosses would be fun.

I enjoyed it but I'm really itching to get to the point where we get it all handed to us badly. I'm quite tired of "always" triumphing and we've beat this new Legatus three times over already in the short time he has been a part of the plot. I really hope the Warriors of Darkness are the ones to finally bring this to us because so far I am not seeing anyone else offering us that possibility.

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Originally Posted by Knahli

I enjoyed it but I'm really itching to get to the point where we get it all handed to us badly. I'm quite tired of "always" triumphing and we've beat this new Legatus three times over already in the short time he has been a part of the plot. I really hope the Warriors of Darkness are the ones to finally bring this to us because so far I am not seeing anyone else offering us that possibility.

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It's not going to go well because either A) it will be cutscene only and people hate it when their character is dictated by what the cutscene wants or B) we fight a battle where it doesn't count and those are a big waste of time.

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Originally Posted by Knahli

I'm quite tired of "always" triumphing.

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I agree. Nothing feels exciting or suspenseful anymore. What was great about the battle of Carteneau is that the WoL and PCs lost, there was conflict and drama. Now it is like "oh a new primal? yawn." "oh, legatus? Haha, here hold muh ale." "dragon? Pfft, with only my fists"

Nothing feels like a potential to fail and the echo is like playing the game with god mode on.