Why wasnt the requirement for this removed with the patch to purchase a 230 weapon. I really dont feel like waiting 7 weeks to get one one for my other jobs and the first 235 i get will be going to my main.
High Capacity Tomestones, we shouldnt need them anymore.
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06-19-2016, 11:59 PMAsmodaiHigh Capacity Tomestones, we shouldnt need them anymore.
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06-20-2016, 12:16 AMCinno
They don't want to get rid of it. It's their way of forcing Midas to stay relevant.
As long as the High Capacity Tomestones are needed, people will be running Midas. And as long as people are running Midas at least once a week for months on end, they will be distracted by the lack of end game content. It forces Midas to stay alive a -lot- longer than it normally would.
Its the same reason we can only get one piece of gear each weak from Weeping City, and why we still need one weekly Void Ark run to upgrade our lore gear.
If they take these restrictions away, no one would run Midas anymore, no one would even touch boring Void Ark, and everyone would grind their Weeping City gear in the first few weeks, and it would die out as well.
When you dont release a lot of content, you have to find ways to make the current content last as long as you can. Do I agree with this design? Not entirely. But this is the game we play. -
06-20-2016, 12:19 AMRawrz
Go run A6s. Not very many people really need it. i235 is Niddy and he's farmable, so I don't see why you don't just spam that for your jobs.
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06-20-2016, 12:31 AMAsmodaiThats the point. Why do i need them when i can farm nidhogg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rawrz
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06-20-2016, 12:39 AMSaxForcing people to run stuff for a weekly lock out item is one thing; forcing people to run something for 7 weeks to get part of an item that has a lower ilevel than something you can unrestrictedly farm is another. At the very least they should lower the number of Midan Gears to 2 or 3 to match the number of weeks it takes to save for a lore weapon. Keeps people in Burden of the Son, but is a little more realistic now there are better and easier weapons to get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinno
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06-20-2016, 12:47 AMVaer
It's probably from the same line of thinking where they still haven't nerfed relic unidentified step. In this particular case it still has future value as a 240 weapon when they add the gobdip.
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06-20-2016, 03:20 AMEloah
While i understand the lockout, its frustrating when you want to gear up more than 1 job. I have everything at 60 and while i focus on my scholar, i like to get more relevant gear for my other jobs, if i want to seitch it up, especially my tanks. The issue is while it may take 7 weeks for the gears, it might take more if i want to buy gear too. If the lore tomestones werent capped the grind wouldnt be as bad, or if the number of gears was less. But because its both combined its irritating. But i do understand it. This is my first mmo, but i cant say i like vertical progression all that much.
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06-20-2016, 03:29 AMValkyrie_Lenneth
I have 3 i230 relics without really trying, so i mean, thats an option as well. I still have all the midan gears ive gotten, never used em.
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06-20-2016, 03:35 AMKhalithar
The high capacities will probably be removed when the ilevel increases in 3.4
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06-20-2016, 05:18 AMRoth_TrailfinderNah, it's more likely that they will be purchased for a few hundred Esoterics each. Or Lore, if they cycle Tomestones again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Khalithar
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06-20-2016, 06:00 AMNekodar
One likely reason is that when you can get the weapon upgrade item through weeping city/void ark tokens, or hunts, they want to keep a limit on how many i240 weapons you can get easily.
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06-20-2016, 06:20 AMskyfoxHmm how could you have 3 relic without too much effort? I am having major problem even getting one for my WAR ><.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
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06-20-2016, 06:37 AMSnugglebuttThey release new content more often than most MMO's with much more varied types of content. The whole "not much endgame content" is a silly argument too in my opinion because people who tend to throw around such terms generally only count the latest raid as such. SE are not going to release a dozen 'equally' important raids with equal stats on the gear in each of them with every patch in order to make them 'all' count as current endgame, everyone will always just flock to the one that gives the best gear and that one will be considered 'endgame'. At least SE releases new endgame content quite often which means you get new endgame content more often than most other MMO's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinno
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06-20-2016, 06:42 AMMorningstar1337I did CT today, I say the usual Unientified Tomestone Tokens needed for the Weapons, if they aren't removing those, then they sure as hells not gonna remove the ones for the i130 gear. Its more likely that they will make them purchaseable from LoreQuote:
Originally Posted by Khalithar
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06-20-2016, 07:06 AMServerCollapsdaylie beast tribe quests. its 1 relic every 3 months with 30 minutes effort per dayQuote:
Originally Posted by skyfox
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06-21-2016, 07:42 AMenthauptetBeast tribes take longer than 30 min but sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by ServerCollaps
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06-21-2016, 09:10 AMFoxyAreku
Farm Nidhogg and you have a better weapon for most classes.
It's not even that hard of a fight, definitely easier than sephirot at least.
No they don't?Quote:
Originally Posted by enthauptet
If anything they're shorter. I remember doing vath and vanu daily and I'd always be done in like 25 minutes tops.
Maybe the old ones took longer, but vath and vanu are pathetically short. -
06-21-2016, 09:49 AMRoth_Trailfinder
Vath and Vanu weren't too bad. They avoided the worst issues with the Amal'jaa, Sylphs, Kobolds, and Sahagin : FATEs. Especially those first two, if you get a FATE as part of your daily three, you can spend a couple hours just waiting on the darn thing. Or, if no one is around, attempting to spawn it by doing other nearby FATEs. Fortunately, the Kobold and Sahagin FATEs pop very frequently, so much less time is wasted should you get one of those.
If you have to pick, avoid the Vath and Vanu for the relic. 18 tokens vs 13 tokens from the ARR beast tribes. On the other hand, if you have a crafter, the Moogles are the best of the bunch. 18 tokens like the other two HW beast tribes, but you a couple faction ranks in you start getting 2 tokens per task, bringing them down to one token every 3 days (the ARR tribes are one token every 4.33333 days). We don't know yet, but IF the Moogles start giving 3 tokens per day at the highest rank(s) then that would be one Unid every other day. -
06-21-2016, 10:10 AMGlasyaGoing into Niddy with an i210 weapon isn't advisable due to the tight DPS checks. Also as a healer I've been competent with the mechanics since since week 1, but haven't been able to find a party to clear yet since people are hamfisted cretins, and no one is going to take someone inexperienced and undergeared into Midas savage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rawrz
I'm kind of bitter about it; I grinded my ass off trying to hit i220 to learn Nidhogg EX as soon as possible, but by the first weekend after the patch it was already too late. All the competent players had got their clears and i've been pissing in the wind ever since.
And a welfare weapon would have gone a long way to help boost my iLv, because people are making i225/230 clear parties and it's literally impossible for me to join them even with an optimum Lore gear purchase order. -
06-21-2016, 10:21 AMPArcher
The 7 weeks to get a 230 is because you aren't raiding.
A tome drops from A6S every week. I know in my group no one wants them, but I think people roll on it just so it doesn't feed the floor.
Down A7S, and you get an easy 240 every week as well.