Ninja Hide abiltiy

Make stealth more useful and valuable in PVP please! if no new pvp skills, then this is all i ask XD i just want to be able to ambush more freely!
Examples
Being able to stealth in combat
Being able to teleport or jump behind the target while in stealth for a stun / dps


#Ambush playstyle \o/

Nah, the only thing they'll do to ninjas is nerf after nerf after nerf.

I feel like being able to stealth in combat would be a bit much.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

Nah, the only thing they'll do to ninjas is nerf after nerf after nerf.

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HAHA! sadly it's true, even though we just got "buffed" if you could even call it that a buff -.- XD
On the bright side! if you play MNK or SNM they buff you every patch! -.-

#GiveNinjasSomeBetterLovinPls

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Originally Posted by TheX

...if you play MNK or SNM they buff you every patch! -.-

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I really hope that SNM is just a typo and you don't actually mean SMN, because if you do mean SMN then you really need to pay more attention sport...

And a big fat NO to your idea, c'mon do you really not see how broken that would be? Jesus...

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Originally Posted by TheX

HAHA! sadly it's true, even though we just got "buffed" if you could even call it that a buff -.- XD
On the bright side! if you play MNK or SNM they buff you every patch! -.-

#GiveNinjasSomeBetterLovinPls

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They nerfed smn alot and ninja got indeed some buffs pls ninja even got fetter ward. If you could just hide mid combat you could just disappear and be invisible as soon as you get focused.

Boy, being attacked by a invisible enemy or enemies if multiple ninjas would be overkill plus if they are invisible how in the world do you target them or even fight them? Spamming weak aoes?

Id rather see suiton function similar to vanish from wow. Instead of letting you use sata it lets you be "hidden" for a short time . Which would probably make landing TA easier while making ninja slightly more stealthy. The limited duration while allowing hiding in combat would prevent you from getting much avoidance out of it due to the move speed reduction in comparison to shikuchi. Plus if you use it to avoid you sacrifice your ninjutsu if kessatsu isn't up

It's not like hide does not already have some tactical uses like stealing tomeliths by getting to them unseen or hiding in a corner with medals while people lose precious time searching for you.

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Originally Posted by Cynric

Id rather see suiton function similar to vanish from wow. Instead of letting you use sata it lets you be "hidden" for a short time . Which would probably make landing TA easier while making ninja slightly more stealthy. The limited duration while allowing hiding in combat would prevent you from getting much avoidance out of it due to the move speed reduction in comparison to shikuchi. Plus if you use it to avoid you sacrifice your ninjutsu if kessatsu isn't up

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See, I'd like Hide to function like that... Swap Hide and Malmsight, so Hide is a PvP skill that lets you go hidden for a short time. Then it acts as an extra escape skill as well as means to Trick Attack, while not being overpowered due to the duration + hard counter in Detect/AoEs. Meanwhile, Malmsight becomes a PvE skill and gets adjusted to make it so Ninja actually has some stealth gameplay... Perfect invisibility is the worst form of stealth gameplay, and it doesn't even work after Lv50... Instead I'd rather have Malmsight show you enemy fields of detection, so you can sneak (walk) past hearing range or run around avoiding line of sight... Just make it so when you get detected, you get a temporary Suiton style effect so that you can still use Sneak Attack (since you need to enter line of sight by being in front to really land that...), perhaps rename the Suiton effect to something like Element of Surprise... I'd find that much more entertaining for stealth in PvE and PvP, though level design for PvE still leaves much to be desired...

Give nins FULL use of hide (career drg btw) even in combat but allow them to be targettable. Just give it a 1.5 second cast time. And rename it 'TONKO: NI" (and give nins back BLADE: JIN too)

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Originally Posted by Vaeria

Give nins FULL use of hide (career drg btw) even in combat but allow them to be targettable.

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Lies I see you play BRD as much as DRG lol. I would rather see NIN get the ability to hide in battle but last only a short duration than have this nonsense of eternal hide we have now but I suspect most nins wouldn't accept such a compromise anyway. I always viewed the fact of hiding with medals being an acceptable practice in feast to be stupid. Outside of feast though like in frontlines I couldn't care less. I get intense pleasure and satisfaction from constantly killing that spawn camping adder on primal even when he gets the drop on me with hide and we all alone. I will sometimes even idle alone at my spawn hoping he will attack me if I know he in the lobby, so I can kill him again and laugh at his corpse. Im surprised he even bothers to attack me anymore but I hope he never stops no matter how many times he dies.

I think stealthing in combat would be really OP. Stealth in other games is usually this way and I am really glad this game is not "nin pvp class"

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Originally Posted by Titor

I think stealthing in combat would be really OP. Stealth in other games is usually this way and I am really glad this game is not "nin pvp class"

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We could always just put a ridiculously long CD on a pvp hide like 180 s and that would break most of op possibilities honestly .I think anyway

Oh come on..tell me at least ONE of you guys nined in ffll Ballista >_> The sheer joy of seeing that person get back to the safety of his group at 2% hp and thinking hes gonna live only to get popped cuz you followed him home( my genocidal hatred of all things tarutaru/ lala begins here), or to have that guy whose chasing you out the zone only to slip around a corner, vanish and he keeps going?? And for that matter..they should let nins walk at full speed and even sprint while invised. What nin lacks in sheer attack power, it makes up for with beautiful tacticalness, so why hinder one of its signature abilities like, no hide once engaged? I would simply say..let them be targetted even while invised, so that if youre on your game you can catch one.

...and nu Knives...me only brd when its 72 primetime and no healer or in feast when im trying to stop a certain blm who refuses to nuke from landing on my side >_>