So I spent a good day looking at everything within the Gold Saucer and here's all the feedback I have to give towards it and a bunch of ideas I think that would improve the Gold Saucer.
Chocobo Racing feedback
Server side Duty Finder
Option to race anywhere using Duty Finder que ins. This is only server side & doesn't effect tournaments.
On the Chocobo Covering Permission item display the merged stats from both of the parents before having to register the chocobo.
Racing Adjustments
If you reach first place your able to earn your reward and leave the race.
If your the past one that hasn't reached the finish line the race ends without everyone else waiting for you to reach the finish line.
Gifts always stay up during a race and don't spawn behind you anymore if you're going too fast.
Passing Finish line you get credit for your place. Going past another jockey while passing the finishing line doesn't push you ahead of the lead anymore.
Tournaments for Chocobo Racing
Bonus points for entering chocobo tournaments at required times of the day. Basically 20-30min windows every 2 hours that allow players to earn a higher score then normal times. This will cause players to group up at required times and to play against more groups of players rather then npcs.
Racing Rewards
Platinum Trophy + 100000 MGP + Choco Gift
Gold Trophy + 50000 MGP + Choco Gift
Silver Trophy + 25000 MGP + Choco Gift
Bronze Trophy + 12000 MGP + Choco Gift
Players between 5th & 10 place get 5000 MGP + Choco Gift
Players in 11th-last get 1k MGP
Choco Gift is a one time item to randomly obtain a Chocobo ability or Trait skill item.
Chocobo Abilities
Choco Gravity I
Players ahead of you can't jump.
Duration 2s
Choco Gravity II
Players ahead of you can't jump.
Duration 3s
Choco Gravity III
Players ahead of you can't jump.
Duration 4s
Choco Lift I
Resist Gravity effect by 20%
Choco Lift II
Resist Gravity effect by 40%
Choco Lift III
Resist Gravity effect by 60%
Choco Lift IV
Resist Gravity effect by 80%
Choco Lift V
Resist Gravity effect by 100%
Choco Lift VI
Resist & Reflects Gravity effect by 100%
Choco Dash IV
Temporarily boosts speed without depleting stamina
Duration 4s
Choco Ease IV
Cures Heavy status while restoring stamina by 200
Choco Cure IV
Restores 15% of total stamina.
Choco Reflect IV
Repels any non area-of-effect enfeeblement back to its point of origin for 25s
Choco Steal IV
Take an item from the satchel of the forerunning jockey with a 100% success rate.
Head Start II
Begin the race at maximum speed while pushing jockeys with or without "Head Start" behind you. Jockeys with "Head Start II" will not be effected.
Increased Stamina IV
Reduces stamina depletion during acceleration by 18%.
Heavy Resistance IV
Resists & Reflects Heavy by 100%.
Level Head Passive IV
Resists & Reflects Frenzied by 100%
Dressage IV
Increases EXP earned in races by 40%.
Lucky Pot
Increases MGP at the end of the race by 20%
Lucky Pot II
Increases MGP at the end of the race by 30%
Lucky Pot III
Increases MGP at the end of the race by 40%
Racing Item
Choco Gravity spikes
Creates Area of effect around the player. Anyone that enters it earns the effect of gravity for 10s
Lord of Verminion feedback
Tournament lockout needs to be fixed
If you lose 3 times or cancel your que in with someone else this causes you to be locked out from all of Lord of Verminion tournaments, challenges, (RP) Real player matches, & tutorial until the tournament ends. Tournaments are roughly 4-7 days long. Your locked out until the tournament ends.
UI/controls need to be easier to use on a controller. Its hard to do the challenges without a mouse. This is a issue mainly for PS3/PS4 users that play without a mouse.
Gate Times
Add more gates that run every 15mins. 0:15. 0:30, 0:45: 1:00.
Ideas for Gates
Rolling Easter Egg that rolls around the Golden Saucer. (Egg icon on your map will be displayed when you register for the gate)
Freezgah! (Just like the Typhoon fate but you can't fall off or be bound. The floor will be ice so you will be able to slide around while Typhoon lays down AOEs, get hit once and you lose.)
Improve the Mini Games
The Moogle's Paw
Have the balls move around on screen & increase the MGP reward.
Crystal Tower Striker
Have a option to double your mgp after each hit. Up to 5 hits.
Bonus score achievements towards DoL Mini Games & The Big Catch (FSH)
Adjust the speed of yellow & red modes in DoL mini games. (Its just too fas to hit your targets. Instead make the target harder to find.)
Add a fishing mini game that goes with the other 2 DoL mini games & Score Challenge+ Minion rewards.
Out on a Limb (Bot)
The Finer Miner (Min)
The Big Catch (Fsh)
Bonuses towards score achievement
Cactar Green- x1 = 100pts
Malboro Yellow- x2 = 200pts
Titan Red- x2.5 = 250pts
You Basically want to get Red Titan and get 5 hits in toget a score of 1250 to obtain the minion. Each DoL mini game gives out its own minion through an achievement.
Achievements Rewards for DoL Mini Games
Reach a Score of 500 in Out on a Limb, Reward: 5000 mgp
Reach a Score of 1000 in Out on a Limb, Reward: 10000 mgp
Reach a Score of 1250 in Out on a Limb, Reward: Minion: Chair. (When summoned your character will sit on it.)
Reach a Score of 500 in The Finer Miner, Reward: 5000 mgp.
Reach a Score of 1000 in The Finer Miner, Reward: 10000 mgp.
Reach a Score of 1250 in The Finer Miner, Reward: Minion: Camp Fire.
Reach a Score of 500 in The Big Catch, Reward: 5000 mgp.
Reach a Score of 1000 in The Big Catch, Reward: 10000 mgp.
Reach a Score of 1250 in The Big Catch, Reward: Minion: School of Fish (4-5 fish that swim around in a group. Like the music moogles minion).
Jumpo Cactpot adjustments
Be able to buy a ticket from the Mini Cactpot NPC at the front desk.
Instead of choosing 4 digits to win a jumpo cactpot you just need to choose 3.
Jumpo Cactpot reset at weekly reset.
Once you buy a jumpo cactpot ticket you know right away if you win or lose, the server chooses random numbers on the spot and if you guessed correct you win. You will be able to buy another ticket after weekly reset.
(Increasing the odds of winning 1mil MGP which isn't that much anymore since they increased the overall MGP and making it easier to buy a ticket and not having to return 6 or 7 days later to see if you won or not.)
New Mounts
Territorial Tiger (Tiger Enemy from MCH quest line. People will go crazy for it) 800000 MGP
Typhoon (Another Crazy flyable mount players will go crazy for.) 3mil MGP.
Triple Triad Feedback
New Rules
Rule: Flip
The player with the highest amount of card flips will win at the end of the match. More combos within your turns is key to winning a match.
Rule: No Judgement
Cards with Judgement Icon will not take effect.
Rule: Reverse Judgement
Cards with Judgement Icon will have no stat values once placed.
New Card Icon: Judgement
Your opponent's next card will have no numbers once this card is placed. All numbers are replaced with an X. (any number and Aces are able to flip these cards.
They don't have any stat value. You can only have one Judgement card in a deck.
New Triple Triad Rank Increase
Your allowed to use Judgement cards once you have 130+ cards.
Other Adjustments
Zidane card from Golden Pack will be slightly increased in drop rate to be on par with Warrior of Light Card drop rate.
New Cards
All the villains from Final Fantasy series using the Artwork from Dissidia just like with the heros of the Final Fantasy series.
Garlean (5 star) (Random drop from Crystal Deck)
The Emperor (5 star)
Cloud of Darkness (5 star) (Current Cloud of Darkness changed with Cerebus Card)
Cloud of Darkness will be a random drop from either World of Darkness or NPC.
Golbez (5 star) (Random drop from Adamantite Deck)
Exdeath (5 star) (New Tournament Reward)
Kefka Palazzo (5 star) (Random drop from Crystal Deck)
Sephiroth (5 star) (New Tournament Reward)
Ultimecia (5 star)
Kuja (5 star) (New Tournament Reward)
Ject (5 star) (Random drop from Adamantite Deck)
Shadow Lord (5 star)
Gabranth (5 star) (New Tournament Reward)
Bhunivelze (5 star)
Cerebus (4 star) (Earned from Triple Triad NPC's)
Varis zos Galvus (5 star) (Achievement for earning 200 cards)
Caduceus (3 star) (Random drop found at the end of binding coil of bahamut turn 1)
ADS (3 star) (Random drop found at the end of binding coil of bahamut turn 2)
Clockwork Bug (2 star) (Random drop found at the end of Binding Coil of Bahamut turn 4)
Twintania (4 star) (random drop found at the end of binding coil of bahamut turn 5)
Rafflesia (3 star) (Random drop from Second coil of bahamut turn 1)
Melusine (4 star) (Random drop from Second coil of bahamut turn 2)
The Avatar (3 star) (Random drop from Second coil of bahamut turn 3)
Nael van Darnus (5 star) (Random drop from Second coil of bahamut turn 4)
Imdugud (2 star) (Random drop from Final coil of bahamut turn 1)
Kaliya (4 star) (Random drop from Final coil of bahamut turn 2)
Phoenix (5 star) (Random drop from Final coil of bahamut turn 3)
Goddess (4 Star) (Random drop from the Goddess Primal trial)
Demon (4 Star) (Random drop from the Demon Primal trial)
Void Ark 2 (3 star) (Random drop from Vork Ark 2)
Patch 3.3 Dungeon boss card (3 star)
Patch 3.3 Dungeon boss card (3 star)
Caitsith (1 star)
Moenbryda (3 star)
Move current tournament only cards to other NPC's & add in villain cards.
Vanity Weapons
SMN: Mimic Book 10000mgp
SCH: Japanese Fan 10000mgp
AST: Crystal Ball 10000mgp
Hairstyles
Metallic Highlights 80000mgp
Housing items
Amon Painting (Currently already in the game in Sycrus Tower just before Amon fight)
Glass of Blood wine, (5 Uses, Increases MGP gain) costs: 1000 MGP. Bought from Haunted Square NPC.
Gravestone 30000 MGP Bought from Haunted Square NPC. (Unactive FC names members can be placed on the gravestone. Clicking on the gravestone will say "________" lies here.)
Bed of Spikes, 50000 MGP Bought from Haunted Square NPC. (Object already ingame within Haukke Manor)
Crimson Moon Painting (If you look at the Haunted house in FF7 you can see a painting with a moon and red sky)
Haunted Fence (Fence that goes around your lot. Makes your plot look like a graveyard.)
Haunted wall texture (Dungeon texture)
Haunted Grandfather Clock (Creepy Clock)
Platinum Trophy (1st Place in chocobo racing tournament)
Gold Trophy (2nd Place in chocobo racing tournament)
Silver Trophy (3rd Place in chocobo racing tournament)
Bronze Trophy (4th Place in chocobo racing tournament)
New Golden Saucer Games
Snow Boarding
Works the same way as Chocobo Racing on rails.
Grinding on rails=Speed Boost
Jumping off of ramps for gifts and etc= decreased movement speed to other players and speed boosts.
Cloud Bike mini game
The bike mini game gets its own road zone where he can slash people down with a bustersword.
(Dev issues with the cloud bike, it moves too slow for a bike ingame to be used as a mount.)
The bike will be able to move very fast in its own zone so its not game breaking. Probably flying speed but on the ground/road in the racing/escort zone.
Cloud Bike mini game challenge
There is roughly 10-15 challenge modes where you need to protect a car from enemies. Clearing them all earns you the wind-up cloud strife minion & 50000mgp
Music Tracks
"Supply & Demand" 50000 mgp (Market Ward song in 1.0)
Emotes
Godbert Flash 50000 mgp
(Removes the display of all your clothing but your underwear & you do a flex with sparkle effects. Clothing is displayed back on if your character moves. A /hide all armor emote for laughs.)
Mini game target bar Adjustments
The target you need to aim for cant be covered by the bar that goes up/down or left/right in the following mini games:
Monster Toss/Out on a Limb/Crystal Tower Striker/The Finer Miner.
Cliffhanger II/Anyway the Wind blows II/Vase Off II/The Time of my Life II/Skin change We can Believe In II
Basically harder versions of current Gates but give out twice as much MGP.
Cliffhanger II, Bombs have a wider blast radius.
Anyway the wind blows II, Typhoon can do twice as many blasts within 5 rounds.
Vase off II, Twice as many Guards and must do 4 vases instead of 2.
The Time of my Life II, One single race will only appear instead of every race doing its own emote.
Skin change we can believe in II, Twice as many NPCs to choose from.
Haunted Square
Its own side zone like with the Chocobo Square that hosts a Retainer Bell, Inn Room and it has a Haunted House theme. This zone also hosts Mini Games for Snow Boarding & Cloud Bike.
New Achievements
WTFungah IV
"Successfully complete the GATE "Any Way the Wind Blows" or "Freezgah" 100 times.
Reward: Wind-up Typhoon
Enemy at the Gate IV
Successfully complete 500 Gates
Reward: Wind-up Magic Pot
Enemy at the Gate V
Successfully complete 1000 Gates
Burning Rubber
Successfully clear all 15 Cloud Bike challenges.
Reward: Wind-Up Cloud Strife
#Weekly Challenge Log
Win a (RP) or Tournament Lord of Verminion match, Reward: 5000 MGP
Improvements in the area design
Display Red Carpet behind NPC desks. (Looks really plain right now)
Swap out one or two of the balloon minions with another minion.
Use the other side of the golden saucer balloon tank as a fish tank.
Remove/move most of the Gate "Cactar" signs. (They look like they are placed on every wall)
Remove some of the gate lamp post cactar signs.
Remove the NPC's that are loaded under the floor.
Change the Lift Ride to a pipe that sucks you in and loads you to the Chocobo Square. (Works the same as Alexander 4 fight.)
Standing on platform infront of the pipe triggers the suck in. (Please add this, will make it more like the FF7 Gold Saucer.)
Remove Extra Mini game duplicates hosted around the Gold saucer & the Chocobo square.
Remove the npcs that are playing the mini games but players can't access them.
Remove the npc thats playing at the lord of verminion table that players can't access.
Move the Cliffhanger Gate NPC by the gift box area to the lower floor incase players fall off they can easily access the GATE without having to go back up the stairs.
The platform that goes around the Aethright you can /sit on now.
Patch the glitch where players are able to clip through the golden pillars around walls.
Gold Saucer feedback & future ideas
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06-07-2016, 05:09 AMBeetleGold Saucer feedback & future ideas
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06-07-2016, 05:31 AMKnahli
Well this was..... extremely thorough. Very nice work, all of these idea sounds really appealing.
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06-07-2016, 05:47 AModie
I think alot of what you're asking for are adjustments to increase the amount of MGP you get. I personally just want more fun games and attractions.
As far as the gate monitors to let you know when a gate is going, I don't see any reason to remove them. I actually look for them to see if a gate is still ongoing sometimes much like looking around for a clock to see what time it is. My in game clock is usually set to Eorzea time (for fishing nodes) and I'm on a controller so I leave it that way. If a gate isn't in progress I just relax until one starts.
Seating around the Aetheryte would be a nice thing to see. Enough people gather in that room but I'd like it to be more functional and pleasing to the eye than it is now.
I'd also want more music to be available throughout the saucer...I can only handle so much of that song before I have to turn my music off. -
06-07-2016, 08:07 AMBeetleIts not really a big issue getting rid of all the monitors. There is just too many around, looks copy pasta all over the golden saucer needlessly. Getting rid of some of them and adding in new thing such as more GATE npcs might help with loading into the zone and the amount of NPCs in the area. Also another decent adjustment to the monitors would to have the the icons animate (Like a .gif) or change depending on which GATE is up. Also I don't know if its already like this but the Housing monitor signs could turn on and do the samething inside your house letting you know what GATE is up. Monitors are useless in the end when you have NPCs that tell you what GATE is next up and when and that you have a GATE icon on your mini map/map when it appears.Quote:
Originally Posted by odie
Not really increasing mgp, (which has already been increased). Want less down time for waiting on Gates and improve the current mini games and add more rewarding items when you master them. (Like chocobo race challenges you get a Barding) In other mini games I want them toget minions when players really challenge themselves to win on the hardest settings, as in Out on a Limb (Bot) getting titan red chain 5 times in a row without running outta time or turns toget a chair minion characters can sit on anywhere, kinda like the pillion minion.
Also important to add in MGP rewards for players that can't hit chain 5 red for the minion. Which would come down to skill/luck on hits. Pretty easy to learn mini game and easy to spam it. I have spent a lot of time semi afk waiting for gates to spawn. One should be up right after another. (Some gates require 10mins to do. Such as Vase, skin change, cliffhanger.)
Most of the stuff I mentioned have already been created in the game. Freezgah, shiva ice floor with Typhoon Fungah mechanics. Clouds Bike mount which has already been made.
Fenrir Mount has become more common since they increased the overall MGP and added chocobo challenges that give out at least 500-600k MGP. Doing your weekly challenge log with gate reward yields you 75-85k mgp. There needs to be a new big prizes to keep players coming back to the saucer. (Tiger & Typhoon mount)
Triple Triad needs to be improved upon then just collecting endless cards. They need a new rank add to them for players to aim for. I believe the last rank up was around having 60 cards collected to be able to use more star cards in our deck. This is a issue because we have reached the roof of where it would become unbalanced to let players use more star cards. Thus adding in a new card icon "Judgement" and rules, "No Judgement" "Flip" to change the game up later down the road for players that already have more then enough cards. We are already at a count of 136ish cards and with 3.3 we will be going past 140. -
06-07-2016, 08:29 AMFallenArisen0990
I just want the 50% MGP to stay lol.
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06-07-2016, 09:47 AMAnaviAnael
I'm just glad you said Gold Saucer and not Golden Saucer.
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06-07-2016, 10:34 AMOdd
No matter what they do to mini games, I won't play them because it backs you out after every single try. Just let me stay on the game until I chose to back out.
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06-07-2016, 10:36 AMHanayumi
How about some other Final Fantasy game character outfits/weapons for prizes?! They can keep the main character stuff as Vet Rewards, but there are still tons of other characters that people would love to have outfits/weapons of and they would do just fine as prizes within gold saucer. >.<
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06-07-2016, 12:41 PMTankHunter678
I would like to be able to play the FF7 Battle Arena in the Gold Saucer. Complete with the Buff/Debuff/Rule rolls.
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06-07-2016, 02:28 PMTheplatterThis. Really should have been implemented before/instead of LoV, and would give me a reason to stay in the Gold Saucer after I get my daily mini cactpot.Quote:
Originally Posted by TankHunter678
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06-07-2016, 02:30 PMDerio
How about a roller coaster ride to help support VR in the fall.
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06-07-2016, 02:35 PMTintthat happens because of the delay. the data needs a moment to send between your game and the server and the other players game. if someone passes you after you were over the finish line he actually was faster than you and deserved the better placement. remember: all actions other players do happens 1 second later on your screen while your actions happens 1 second later on their screen. that means: on their screen they actually were going over the finish line before you. in the end the person with the fastest lap-time wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beetle
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06-07-2016, 02:35 PMReaperking386
Not really a feed back, but more of a suggestive post, but regardless. I agree with some and disagree with others.