Lo and behold how many patches ALC have been shafted to NOW FINALLY be REBORN into the cornerstone craft in every single new crafted gear/tools and then some!!
ALC specialists that have stayed true to the class awaiting this day (YOUR ASS WAS DUMB WAITING b/c you could have purchased several crafting crystals to swap bk and forth by now) WILL finally have a specialist recipe worthy of being known as an ALC specialist!!
Matter of fact: if you're an ALC specialist on Sargatanas send me tell... I got a business proffer for ya
But it's not just the new mats that makes ALC shine; but now the majority of your crafts especially pots have returned to 3 yields per craft AND with no indication of costing more materials to make that 3 yield!
I personally believe the 3 crafts that make ALC NOW OP are: 1) luminous Fiber 2)potions (b/c of yield and time reductions) 3) cordials**.
With the last 2 being your longest gil makers even after the "new crafting" bubble bursts!
CHEERS!:cool:
Alchemist Has BEEN REBORN!!
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06-07-2016, 02:21 AMjavidAlchemist Has BEEN REBORN!!
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06-07-2016, 02:34 AMTango185
As a gatherer as well I'm very excited about the Cordials. I'll admit that I'm not ALC Specialist but I have the Red Scrips available for the swap and I'm leveled as such so I may be moving over once the patch is installed.
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06-07-2016, 02:47 AMjavid
Hq cordials and Hi-cordials are most definitely something us gatherers (ESP FISHER BY FARRR) are very excited about! And given the mat requirements to craft hq-cordials I doubt it will be a SPC craft; it has the same amount and type of crystals used in a level 50 2 star synth!! For sure all the mats used are 2.0 mats so that's another potential indicator thats its a lvl 50 craft non SPC.
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06-07-2016, 03:04 AMLemuel81
Really happy to see the new Alch changes. Just wish I could make my own HQ cordial pots. They still have left ALCH specialist one of the least desirable specialists though, unless I am missing something new.
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06-07-2016, 03:09 AMpushin_tin
This is why I saved one Specialist Soul after getting my crafts all to 60. Time to hop on the bandwagon.
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06-07-2016, 03:13 AMjavidyou are missing something new......luminous fiber is what you're missing :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemuel81
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06-07-2016, 03:18 AMjavidI kept 2 crystals myself, but I want to make tools first soo I'll have to come bk to ALC a lil later :) . This is why I need more ALC friends!Quote:
Originally Posted by pushin_tin
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06-07-2016, 03:34 AMNekotee
The Alchemist is kinda reborn and the CUL still push in the corner XD (ok the 3 yield is cool but almost no new recipe)
in my case I will try to ask luminous fiber NQ as much as possible and HQ the rest in order not to spend to much money
Because most of the time ALC spec are MB shark putting crazy price ! (camphor... followed by LTW with eikon leather XD)
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But first... finding the comp for the luminous fiber... -
06-07-2016, 03:46 AMjavidcamphor isn't a SPC recipe lol & LTW is "that" expensive b/c of camphor :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nekotee
However I did start a "found it" type forum on discipline of Land dedicated to new discoveries! -
06-07-2016, 03:56 AMNihilityIt's almost certain that either the meteorite or the light-kissed aethersand will be a moogle beast tribe rewardQuote:
Originally Posted by javid
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06-07-2016, 04:12 AMjavidIdk.....meteorite sound like a new mining mat and although "light-kissed" is suggestive of a moogle like name.....I'm still leaning on the aethersand portion of the name and the fact that they said they added new items that can be reduced!Quote:
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06-07-2016, 04:41 AMSolluxMeteorite is more likely to be mined, Light-Kissed Aethersand could come from artherial reduction, and Crystallized Sap is probably botanist. The only thing without some kind of indication for where it comes from is the Glass Fiber which leads me to believe it is the Moogle item.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nihility
As far as Luminous Fiber is concerned, I honestly would not be surprised if it's non-specialist given they did the same thing with Camphor. If it is, I'm already prepared with the gear to make it if needed. -
06-07-2016, 05:09 AMjavidRIP alc spc if they follow camphor with lum fiberQuote:
Originally Posted by Sollux
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06-07-2016, 05:46 AMNezeriusThe increased potion yield will revitalize the draconian/max potion market at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by javid
The cordial market will likely be average, as the mats aren't all that expensive, and it likely won't be a difficult/specialist craft, since it has to be balanced with the other ways of obtaining cordials (GC seals, or 3 hi-cordials at 100 blue gatherer scrips)
I don't think Luminous Fiber will be turned into a specialist recipe, not just due to the way Camphor wasn't a specialist recipe, but because of the Glass Fiber material.
Glass Fiber will likely a time gated moogle beast tribe reward, similar to the Ehcatl Sealant from the Ixali. Having a material like this means the supply is easier to control without requiring it to be a specialist recipe. -
06-07-2016, 05:59 AMMomomiMomi
If this is a specialist recipe, I'd better find an ALC.
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06-07-2016, 07:16 AMRanzan
I have to agree with the posts above me. Why would they double gate an ingredient that you need multiple of? If the ixalts were any indicator there will not be a decent supply for about a week. That's alot of time to prepare.
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06-07-2016, 08:26 AMjavid
I'm not sure which of the mats if any will be the gated item for making lum fibers. However I'm still convinced they'll make it a spc item b/c they have always stayed thru to the spc system with new crafting releases. You'll argue "camphor" wasn't SPC. Yet camphor was only used in ONE CRAFT. Yes that crafted item eikon leather was used across all the other major gear classes, but can't be attributed to CAMPHOR..... the lining of reason would then question how any mat used in multiple syn can be made into SPC only??
Lum fiber itself is used in every single new gear/tool craft and ALC didn't get that many new non glamour recipes!
SECONDLY on the topic of gated mats: IF indeed it is glass fiber... it takes 3 glass fibers to make one lum fiber and the majority of gear/tools require at least 2 fibers (6 glass fibers) !! WHAT kind of weekly allowance are you guys anticipating? You won't even be able to make more than one gear per week if the allowance is 6 or less?? When Red scripts first came out we were allotted 9 tokens which could craft a MH, OH, and 2 rings in one week or any other combo that used 9 tokens (avg 3 piece a week) -
06-07-2016, 09:08 AMNezeriusOf course it can be attributed to Camphor, a LTW/WVR/ARM still wouldn't be able to craft a total amount of 37 recipes without it.Quote:
Originally Posted by javid
8 days worth of Ixali dailies gave enough Ehcatl Sealants for 2 pieces of gear, or 1 offhand.Quote:
Originally Posted by javid
If it's balanced to be anything like that, it'll probably be around 9 Glass Fibers per week, which will be enough for:
One mainhand or offhand tool (3 Luminous Fibers)
One chestpiece (3 Luminous Fibers)
One non-chestpiece and an accessory (2 Luminous Fibers per non-chestpiece. 1 Luminous Fiber per accessory)
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06-07-2016, 09:29 AMRanzan
If it's double gated it would be too expensive (time and Gil wise) to make one piece. Let alone sell pieces and mats on the AH. Those mats would pull 7 figures for 1 easy. 3 mil for 1 lum fiber is way too expensive.
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06-07-2016, 09:35 AMjavidQuote:
Originally Posted by Nezerius
You didn't follow my logic. If you're saying "you could not have made camphor SPC b/c it used to make Ltw leather which is used in every craft almost." Then it would beg the question "why did you make LTW leather spc?? if it is used in almost all the crafts?" It would much easily follow the current system that if a item is in multiple classes it is specialized (high myth nuggets, iron eikon nuggets, eikon leather, eikon cloth) however if an item is used to make ONE craft you don't specialize it (each of the 2 star quick syn-able materials & camphor). But this part doesn't matter much.
note: lum fiber has 2 star cluster requirements....therefore not likely spc
If they go bk to the sealant like weekly limits that will be a major downgrade from when red scripts first came out and would mean you'd be better off inital stat wise and time wise obtaining the augmented gear which offer at most 3 pieces a week for for maybe 30mins of macro effort.... -
06-07-2016, 04:22 PMPotatoGirl
Hate to bust it to you guys, but the luminous fiber is alc spec.
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06-07-2016, 04:44 PMNezerius
Glass Fiber is also confirmed to be the new Ehcatl Sealant, so ALC specialists won't be rolling around in gil as easily. (They'll still be rolling around in gil, though)
And having it as 2-star also makes it relatively easy to get to, especially with the i180 set being available with blue scrips. -
06-07-2016, 05:51 PMNekoteewell... crap I was wrong XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Nezerius
Please no... carbon stuff is far betterQuote:
Originally Posted by Nezerius
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06-07-2016, 06:26 PMFyceNewcomers in crafting (like me, still in the leveling process) will probably purchase i180 gear for their specialists class with blue scrips, and upgrade them to i200 with red scrips, while slowly getting a set of i170 done for the rest of their classes. I don't know if I'll overmeld that i170 though, at least not immediatly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nekotee
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06-07-2016, 06:53 PMTakara528
Exactly what Fyce said. No reason for the i170 when can get the i180 so easily. Drac pots will sell well, max pots will not
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06-08-2016, 05:08 AMBlankstarUnfortunately, you cannot overmeld the carbonweave gear. You can still reach 3.2 3* levels with the carbonweave gear + 170 right side gear fully melded. The good news is the new right side gear isn't really a huge upgrade over the 170 stuff, so you can just keep that and focus on Ironworks gear after.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fyce
The bad news is it does not seem possible to make the new Ironworks gear (i190) with just the i180 gear + carbonweave melded with V materia, but my math may be off.
I strongly recommend picking up a set of the i170 right side gear (astral birch and Aurum Regis) and penta melding it like this: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/UC96
You can give yourself a little breathing room by melding Vs into the cabonweave gear, or using a pentamelded griffin leather tool belt. -
06-08-2016, 08:54 AMTahoeMax
Woof, loading Carbonweave with V materia sounds very expensive for a stepping stone set
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06-08-2016, 11:35 AMBlankstar
I agree, and I think that the way to go is Carbonweave with IVs, i180 MH/OH/Belt, and fully melded i170 right side. You can just break 870/835. Here is a slightly cheaper setup than the last: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/UCH2
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06-08-2016, 04:14 PMMature
To reach cap just Red script gear all the left side OT HM and fully melded right side + Oyster food.
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06-09-2016, 05:05 PMLemuel81yea after doing some looking this path does look the cheapest if a person does not already have melded ilvl 170 gear. Not too bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blankstar