For long time it has become apparent to me that as I change my resolution for FFXIV from 1080p to 2k even 4k that the foreground is the only thing changing. The text and the overlay basically. Sure the background gets prettier but the scale never changes. Here are some photos to prove it.
@2K
http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/...psb3fehf81.png
@4K
http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/...psg8plsedx.png
According to this monitor: ASUS ROG PG278Q I should see 77% more screen every 2k resolution I go up. But I do not.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-405-_-Product
http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/...psyu81dbiv.jpg
So it seems that the only things that scale are text and overlay. Am I wrong or is this how the game is right now? Are there games that work like this monitor I listed and actually show you more screen as you go up in resolution?
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06-06-2016, 12:08 AMWHSWhy doesn't the background resolution change as you change resolutions?
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06-06-2016, 12:36 AMSaccharin
Because when you increase the resolution you increase the number of pixels in a certain length.
If a UI box is 100 pixels wide then if your monitor was 100 dpi that would be 100 dots (pixels) per inch.
If you got a new fancy monitor that had 200 dps per inch. Then that box would be half an inch on your screen because the 100 dots that make up the box is shorter because the pixels are much smaller, in this case half the size.
It's the same with the UI. Some games have scaling features where they essentially magnify the UI. If you've ever watched a DVD on a very large TV screen you'll see little squares because the picture has been essentially stretched. That's what UI scaling does unless the developer has higher detail sizes for larger resolutions. -
06-06-2016, 04:53 AMCanadane
You've got a lot more UI real estate to work with now.
Your FoV however, remains the same in this game. -
06-06-2016, 06:57 AMWHS
I am starting to think the Field of View is limited on purpose just in case that might give us an unfair advantage over ps3/ps4 players. If true it makes sense but seriously shows how a console can hold this game back now. God I hope this isn't the case. Starting to really fear it might be the real issue though.
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06-06-2016, 07:21 AMDaeriion_AeradiirIt depends on your monitor. I have an Ultrawidescreen one (21:9 vs standard 16:9) and I can see more on the left and right sides of my screen than if I put the game up on my normal monitor. The fov seems limited to your aspect ratio.Quote:
Originally Posted by WHS
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06-06-2016, 10:14 AMUnderdog2204It never ceases to amaze me how quick some people are to jump on the "oh it's probably the console's fault and it and all the people who play on it" bandwagon.Quote:
Originally Posted by WHS
Seriously it only took 2 posts for you to start throwing some blame around. -
06-06-2016, 10:28 AMWHS
How about each person look at the screenshots I posted. one is the 4k and the other is the 2k and you can clearly see the same fov for both. Monitor aspect ratio was 16:9 but according to asus that should not matter. I should see more fov on the sides and I clearly do not. I do however see a clearly larger area when looking at my desktop of the same resolution. Just not the game. Assumption about consoles was fair. I play on ps3 ps4 and pc for the whole time this version off FFXIV has been out and I can see the holdings back now. I used to argue and defend consoles but I am not going to keep doing what I know is not right. I do in fact now believe the consoles are holding this game back if nothing more than the argument I am making right now about higher resolutions. They are not able to do it and letting pc see more field area would in fact be an unfair advantage to a console player. If any dev or mod would come right out and say right now that the game will get a greater fov on pc than on console because it can then that would be fair and in that case console would not be the hold back. I so far have not seen anyone actually say that is going to happen.
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06-06-2016, 10:31 AMWHSWould you do me a favor and put some screen shots of your fov. Maybe that might help me to see what you see better. Thank you. Please try and include one at 1080p and then another at 2k or 4k or whatever you can do that is different. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir
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06-06-2016, 10:32 AMWHSI wanted to take the time to thank you for pointing out the FOV to me earlier today. Till you said something it never clicked as to what I was seeing was called. Now that I have a name for it the conversation about it can be much clearer. Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
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06-06-2016, 10:33 AMUnderdog2204So having (in your own words) "an unfair advantage" based on your platform of choice is "right"? Even though those players disadvantaged still have to pay a subscription to play just like everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by WHS
Just let me try and do the mental gymnastics to try to get that to make sense.
Oh how great the game would be if we had "No Playstation players" groups in partyfinder eh? -
06-06-2016, 12:49 PMworldofneilThey're both the same aspect ratio so you get exactly the same field of field. The resolution is irrelevant, the game calculates the field of view based on the ratio.Quote:
Originally Posted by WHS
That Asus advert you linked simply shows how many more extra pixels there are compared to a regular screen. Whether a game actually supports showing more in that extra screen space is another matter. As you've seen with FF XIV, the game is designed around aspect ratios as to how much you see, not specific resolutions.Quote:
Originally Posted by WHS
Edit: Also just saw from your link about the monitors, there was also some text above that picture you posted, that said:
This gives you the benefits of greater image detail and up to 77% more onscreen desktop space than standard Full HD (1920 x 1080) displays.
More space, nothing about how games will handle it.