Patch 3.3 - Anima Weapon Update

So we got some info on this, which is great to see. Also, it looks like it won't be as grindy as some of us speculated, at least nowhere near the level that grinding "unidentified items" was X_X

Here's a shot from the digest, but it's all in JP:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/a...7&d=1464848984

If anyone can translate anything important, or has any information (iLv, etc) that may/may not have been mentioned in the video but not the digest... please share ^_^

Feel free to use this as a discussion page also. Speculate away!!

Thanks!

What makes you think this will be less grindy than the unidentifiable item step?

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

What makes you think this will be less grindy than the unidentifiable item step?

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Just the wording on how they said a variety of different content can be use to get there, and you earn a minimum of 3pts per "session" and can get up to 5, rather than 1pt or a static 3pts.

idk about you, but I did a fair amount of stuff and those damn unidentifiable items took me months to finish X_X

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Originally Posted by Archadius

Just the wording on how they said a variety of different content can be use to get there, and you earn a minimum of 3pts per "session" and can get up to 5, rather than 1pt or a static 3pts.

idk about you, but I did a fair amount of stuff and those damn unidentifiable items took me months to finish X_X

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Yeah but you needed 80 unidentifiable items made up of other items, here you need anywhere from 76 to 46 (much more like ~70) items which appear to be made up of other things. In terms of a variety of content, I believe the Unidentifiable item step has previously provided us with the largest variety in how we get there (in comparison to all other steps including 2.x)

No more accuracy petamelds.*Sploosh*

http://i68.tinypic.com/2i0cgnq.png
Ill ditch a ring, then the other and ill probably keep the top for the massive crit and the arms since its a hefty acc gain. I can unslot a bunch of acc and max crit instead, at the cost of the current relics piety.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

Yeah but you needed 80 unidentifiable items made up of other items, here you need anywhere from 76 to 46 (much more like ~70) items which appear to be made up of other things. In terms of a variety of content, I believe the Unidentifiable item step has previously provided us with the largest variety in how we get there (in comparison to all other steps including 2.x)

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Fair points! Here's to hoping that what you've mentioned turns out to not be the case though lol

http://i.imgur.com/zkw5F1v.jpg

Healer having 110ish accuracy will be a blessing yeah

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Originally Posted by YISUG

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idk where you got an English version, but thanks! :D

Also, oddly.... the total says 0/240 instead of 0/228 in the English version...

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Originally Posted by Archadius

idk where you got an English version, but thanks! :D

Also, oddly.... the total says 0/240 instead of 0/228 in the English version...

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found it here

Wait, are those the only options so you can't put any secondary stat on any weapon? I was going to put Parry and Skill speed on my BLM weapon just for giggles!

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Originally Posted by Cynthis

Wait, are those the only options so you can't put any secondary stat on any weapon? I was going to put Parry and Skill speed on my BLM weapon just for giggles!

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I'm assuming they took the derp out of the equation and only offered appropriate secondaries for each class.

Hmmm only 88 points are able to be put into piety on healer relics......i am sad :(.

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Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael

Hmmm only 88 points are able to be put into piety on healer relics......i am sad :(.

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Why do you say that? The photo shown is a BLM staff.

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Originally Posted by Cynthis

Wait, are those the only options so you can't put any secondary stat on any weapon? I was going to put Parry and Skill speed on my BLM weapon just for giggles!

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I think only those 2nd stats that are usefull for the job (like no Pie on MNK Anima)

Seems like there's going to be a some gil involved too, which they say will be balanced (whether that's true or not remains to be seen ofc). I know that might piss some people off, but personally I've been setting aside some coin for just such an occasion ^_^

Anything to speed the process up a little... As I mentioned earlier, that "unidentified items" step was brutal for me as far as timing goes.

I still don't know which stats I want to assign my ast relic... the pain of running both sects

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Originally Posted by Archadius

Seems like there's going to be a some gil involved too, which they say will be balanced (whether that's true or not remains to be seen ofc). I know that might piss some people off, but personally I've been setting aside some coin for just such an occasion ^_^

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I don't mind giving gil to a vendor and get it out the system. I do mind being forced into either undergoing an additional, lengthy grind in content unrelated to the content I intend to engage in with the weapon (battle content) or giving it to another player simply because he enjoys that unrelated content and thus gets easy access to the items I need (Crafting, Chocobo Racing, Triple Triad, Sightseeing, Whatever).

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Originally Posted by Archadius

Seems like there's going to be a some gil involved too, which they say will be balanced (whether that's true or not remains to be seen ofc). I know that might piss some people off, but personally I've been setting aside some coin for just such an occasion ^_^

Anything to speed the process up a little... As I mentioned earlier, that "unidentified items" step was brutal for me as far as timing goes.

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Gil being involved is likely just for the players that want to speed up the process by including materia, perhaps they'll even go as far as limiting it to only allow grade V materia to be used.

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

Gil being involved is likely just for the players that want to speed up the process by including materia, perhaps they'll even go as far as limiting it to only allow grade V materia to be used.

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They already said materia won't be used.

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Originally Posted by Archadius

If anyone can translate anything important, or has any information (iLv, etc) that may/may not have been mentioned in the video but not the digest... please share ^_^

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They put up an English version on that screengrab at yesterday's duty commenced. Relic weapons start just before the 37 minute mark. Next step will be ilvl240.

https://www.twitch.tv/finalfantasyxiv/v/70003013

It wont use materia, but most likely the items can be purchased with tombs.

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Originally Posted by Remus

They already said materia won't be used.

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They said materia can be used, as one of many options

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

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Can't view videos for information right now, but much appreciated!

i240 is good to know also. I'm kinda glad I skipped the Lore Tome weapons entirely...

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Why do you say that? The photo shown is a BLM staff.

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Max stats on all caster weapons (all weapons in fact) were the same for previous relic, so i was assuming it was the same this time around.

However, i am more than happy if i turn out to be wrong.

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Originally Posted by Felis

They said materia can be used, as one of many options

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Recently on duty commenced yestderday they said materia will not be used for this step. The only thing that got mentioned about materia was when you finish the relic the weapon it will compare to a weapon with 3 tier 5 materias on it.

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Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael

Max stats on all caster weapons (all weapons in fact) were the same for previous relic, so i was assuming it was the same this time around.

However, i am more than happy if i turn out to be wrong.

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I get what you're saying. However, I don't know why they would actually force you to lose stats by upgrading your relic further. All three healer relics already have +123 Piety. You would think the new upgrade would allow you to go higher than the current number.

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Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael

Max stats on all caster weapons (all weapons in fact) were the same for previous relic, so i was assuming it was the same this time around.

However, i am more than happy if i turn out to be wrong.

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Non-healer Novus relics had a cap of 23 piety, while healer Novus relics had a cap of 33 piety.

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

Non-healer Novus relics had a cap of 23 piety, while healer Novus relics had a cap of 33 piety.

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Which was still lower than crit/det/spellspeed caps. (Iirc)

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Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael

Which was still lower than crit/det/spellspeed caps. (Iirc)

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For what reason do you want so much PIE anyway?

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Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael

Which was still lower than crit/det/spellspeed caps. (Iirc)

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I'm just pointing out that the healer anima relic will likely have more piety, instead of the 88 points that you mentioned in a previous post.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

For what reason do you want so much PIE anyway?

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Healer stats are all down to personal choice and how your raid functions (with the exception of sch which is pretty set in stone).

The way my current raid deals with the interaction of AST/SCH, piety can be of great use to me.

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Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael

Healer stats are all down to personal choice and how your raid functions (with the exception of sch which is pretty set in stone).

The way my current raid deals with the interaction of AST/SCH, piety can be of great use to me.

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I see, as I understood it with the buff to (whatever that MP skill is called for AST) that MP was really not an issue for ASTs any more though? The gear we have in Lore etc gives us a ridiculous amount of MP, so it just seemed weird to me. How much MP do you currently have?

I get healer stats are more personal choice than other roles, but I'd say they still have weights. For SCH I'd say, ACC > CRIT > SS > PIE > DET, where it is accuracy to cap, then CRIT ~0.3, SS 0.2, PIE 0.15, DET 0.1 or so. For AST, I would say CRIT >=SS, > ACC > PIE > DET, where I'd go for crit/ss as much as possible, and put in some accuracy in case I DPS. For the most part, both PIE and DET seem fairly worthless.

Anyway, to each their own.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

I see, as I understood it with the buff to (whatever that MP skill is called for AST) that MP was really not an issue for ASTs any more though? The gear we have in Lore etc gives us a ridiculous amount of MP, so it just seemed weird to me. How much MP do you currently have?

I get healer stats are more personal choice than other roles, but I'd say they still have weights. For SCH I'd say, ACC > CRIT > SS > PIE > DET, where it is accuracy to cap, then CRIT ~0.3, SS 0.2, PIE 0.15, DET 0.1 or so. For AST, I would say CRIT >=SS, > ACC > PIE > DET, where I'd go for crit/ss as much as possible, and put in some accuracy in case I DPS. For the most part, both PIE and DET seem fairly worthless.

Anyway, to each their own.

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I get very little opportunity in raids to dps on AST so accuracy is not really that high a priority for myself. When i do its usually Combust and Combust II then back to healing. Also i primarily do as many of the raises as possible when learning, so the extra mp helps there. And for dungeon runs, i am usually gravity spamming away. Its pushing me more towards piety spellspeed for ast. Either that or spellspeed crit. Det is something i have discounted. If i find myslf running on Nocturnal more, then it would probably be some combination of piety/crit/accuracy, as Nocturnal AST has a habit of draining MP more.

Also its not just for AST, although its my main i have all healer relics, and whm i would like extra piety on for its interaction with assize.

It's scaled with how piety melds work, since they give less in 3.0. It is unfortunate that you can't have piety be your main secondary stat, but you could max piety and max SS for example, and then remove your SS melds to add more piety throughout your build.