We need an interface window - Glamour Collection - to free up inventory!

I know there's always a rivalry between games like XIV and WoW, however Blizzard has taken enough of FFXIV's good ideas! It is time we took one of theirs. We need an interface that saves the glamour style of each item we've ever collected so we can free up our bags.

I know I'm not the only one who has all methods of storage full of different glamour items. Imagine if you could open up a window, and saved in it is a catalog of every style of armor and weapon you've ever owned. You could click it, and assign that instead of hunting for an item in your bags.

This will free up a ton of inventory. I mean, we all know the true endgame is glamour.

Servers, limitations, saving character data, yada yada yada

Been asked for since glamours were first introduced it won't be happening anytime soon

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Originally Posted by bass9020

Servers, limitations, saving character data, yada yada yada

Been asked for since glamours were first introduced it won't be happening anytime soon

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Is it the PS3 causing limitations? I'm curious how such an old game can do it, like WoW, but XIV can't.

Is not server limitations. It is a log, like the music log an that. Hey just don't add it because they want fill slots, this way people need pay more for extra retainers. The same reason they didn't expand inventory. I don't think this features are more than few KB more of data in the server.

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Originally Posted by Prestige

I know there's always a rivalry between games like XIV and WoW, however Blizzard has taken enough of FFXIV's good ideas! It is time we took one of theirs. We need an interface that saves the glamour style of each item we've ever collected so we can free up our bags.

I know I'm not the only one who has all methods of storage full of different glamour items. Imagine if you could open up a window, and saved in it is a catalog of every style of armor and weapon you've ever owned. You could click it, and assign that instead of hunting for an item in your bags.

This will free up a ton of inventory. I mean, we all know the true endgame is glamour.

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DCUO has something like this on ps3 so I don't think its a limitation of ps3 but I agree I love their system. I'd also like the option to change colors of certain parts of gear without changing the whole thing.

<_< what has WoW taken from FF14? honestly im not sure as i dont play WoW anymore, however im almost positive FF14has taken much more influence from WoW than the opposite.

Basically character data is backed up every 15 seconds and if they added extra storage space and a glamour catalog it would make backing up that much more data difficult in that time frame and the devs are reluctant to push back the back to every 30 seconds for example. I think retainer data is only accessed and saved when we are using them.

I think one solution would to use something like a retainer as the glamour catalog. It would only be accessible though a summoning bell (or similar access point) and you would cast glamours through this. Using this glamour "retainer", the glamour catalog would not need to be constantly backed up as part of the character data, only when it is accessed.

I don't see the big harm in a way if they would push the save time back a little bit, the servers seem stable enough to not worry about a server crash, least I can't recall one in the time I've played since Closed Beta. Don't get me wrong I have very little knowledge so I could be under thinking the process but it kinda goes into hand of "If it can go wrong, it will". My luck is I would DC or Crash in the process of making that item from expensive mats than actually HQing it then crashing causing it to be gone after. Unless someone can explain it a bit better? If it ment more space I'd be for it.

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Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan

<_< what has WoW taken from FF14? honestly im not sure as i dont play WoW anymore, however im almost positive FF14has taken much more influence from WoW than the opposite.

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The dungeon UI on WoW as of Warlords looks almost a carbon copy of how it is on XIV down to the objective list and everything (though XIV could easily have taken influence from something else like GW2 for this, I dunno, I only play XIV and WoW myself) that's honestly the only thing I can really think of, though

We really don't.

It would be nice, sure, but then I'd have nothing to even use my retainer inventories for since there are very few crafting mats that are actually worth saving.

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Originally Posted by Ilitsa

The dungeon UI on WoW as of Warlords looks almost a carbon copy of how it is on XIV down to the objective list and everything (though XIV could easily have taken influence from something else like GW2 for this, I dunno, I only play XIV and WoW myself) that's honestly the only thing I can really think of, though

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The draenor legendary quest seemed a carbon copy of the 2.0 relic quest, I think. It's been awhile but I heard something like that.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

We really don't.

It would be nice, sure, but then I'd have nothing to even use my retainer inventories for since there are very few crafting mats that are actually worth saving.

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We really do, because then we wouldn't have to be spending real money for retainers. I wish I didn't have use retainers for glamour reasons.

While I wouldn't mind a glamour book option of sorts, hoarding all your items for glamours isn't a necessity by any means. You may make it a priority, but that's on you.

Glamour books are pretty much standard and default now in games, ffxiv is lacking in many ways, this being one. Definitely would improve the game se, mind you I dont expect it with the current "limitations" excuse for most suggestions.

They seem heavily reluctant to do anything at all to solve any of the inventory problems, or at least are very horrible at communicating progress on what they ARE doing involving inventory issues. We get one or two snippets on a blue moon and that is it.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

They seem heavily reluctant to do anything at all to solve any of the inventory problems, or at least are very horrible at communicating progress on what they ARE doing involving inventory issues. We get one or two snippets on a blue moon and that is it.

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That's because anytime they do share information on what they're trying, people take it as Word of God that it's absolutely 100% going to happen that way and if things change during the development process, whether that be because they found something they like better or the original idea is more difficult to implement than they thought it would be or another reason entirely, people will still dig up those old quotes years down the line and stick them in their sigs as proof of how untrustworthy they are and whatnot. I really can't say that I blame them for keeping quiet. :3

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Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul

We really do, because then we wouldn't have to be spending real money for retainers. I wish I didn't have use retainers for glamour reasons.

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This is the answer right here. They are getting money for it so why give it away for free? While I don't personally rent out retainers, I know more than half the people I associate with do, with some doing the max amount. SE is not going to budge an inch unless they see sales from retainers drive down while complaint of default inventory space goes up.

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Originally Posted by bass9020

Been asked for since glamours were first introduced it won't be happening anytime soon

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And we have to keep asking for it so SE gives in under our constant nagging and fixes the problem one day ;)
There are other things that don't work yet and are rooted deep in the system, and the devs are still working on ways to fix them.
There are lots of things we have now that at launch were considered too complex or impossible to do.
There are other solutions to this problem like the one Gokuhan suggested. But everytime the devs get asked about this, the answer is just "hire more retainers".
Well excuse me if at this point I think there is no INTEREST in fixing this issue because of the sweet sweet revenue those retainer fees give them :/

The problem is, we have so much gear in the game now, even if you rent the maximum number of retainers possible you still can't hold every gearpiece in existence.
*sigh*
I'd even pay monthly for a glamour catalouge x.X

The devs backed themselves into a corner with their server infrastructure due to this game being chained to 1.0 systems. As long as people buy into the retainer racket or pay a slightly higher sub for more character slots to mule with, there's not much motivation for SE to hurry and improve it.

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Originally Posted by bass9020

Servers, limitations, saving character data, yada yada yada

Been asked for since glamours were first introduced it won't be happening anytime soon

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Depend of how the catalogue would work
If it allow to try on every gear ingame to find the right combinations (only to try on, for glamour you will still need the gear), then it will be not part of the character data, but with the gear database of the game.
It don't have to be ingame anyway. It can be also a Lodestone function.

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Originally Posted by Felis

It don't have to be ingame anyway. It can be also a Lodestone function.

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Seconding this. I would love to see a function on the lodestone that would allow me to look up an item and then try it on my character.

I'm in agreement with what's been said about the paid retainers though. As nice as it would be to have a glamour inventory system, I sadly just don't see it happening any time soon.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

While I wouldn't mind a glamour book option of sorts, hoarding all your items for glamours isn't a necessity by any means. You may make it a priority, but that's on you.

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I feel like you'd have to be at least a bit disingenuous to say that glamour isn't causing issues with inventory space. I've recently discarded all 4-man gear I was holding for glamours, but even then I'm constantly struggling with inventory space while holding onto stuff from coil/alex/eso/lore/primals that would be a bit more time consuming to go back and farm again for a glamour I want to use.

Cyicism aside, the don't have to allow every piece of glamour right away. They could treat it like the armoire, where they expand what can be stored, as they can afford the data increase. At the very least, they should allow some type of alternate glamour storage the more difficult pieces of gear (tome/token gear, CT gear, VA gear, etc), especially after it becomes completely obsolete.

There's also a good majority of existing already data that could be reused to populate the glamour log. Every glamour option doesn't need to be unlocked the same way. Items stored in the armoire, crafting log completion, achievement data and quest data can all be reused to unlock certain glamour options.

It would be pretty awesome if they made a wardrobe instance! Similar to how we have the Aesthetician what if they expanded his business to styling you with previous obtained items as long as you had them once. Now I know people like everything done quickly so for people who can't be bothered to do this they can still do it the old way with the glamour prisms as normal. Prisms will still be needed as long as you have them in your inventory you can change your gear glamour in the wardrobe.

I know this is stretching it but you never know!

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Originally Posted by DarkDedede

Cyicism aside, the don't have to allow every piece of glamour right away. They could treat it like the armoire, where they expand what can be stored, as they can afford the data increase. At the very least, they should allow some type of alternate glamour storage the more difficult pieces of gear

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If they JUST added something for the primal weapons, things would be so much better already..;-;

Yeah. Paying for retainers just to store items for glamour is a major cash grab.