Some Positivity...

First let me start of by saying, I love you all. I really do.

Even when you rage at me because I let you die in PVP! ^^;

Why? Because I'm grateful to have people to play this game with, friend or foe. If you know me, you would know I always make parties for PVE by using the player search, before I use the PF or DF. Ya'know... Old skool FFXI style. Because this way if I come across a really cool player, I can add them and be friends with them.
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So please take the time out to read this, I think you all could do with some kind words from time to time.

The Forum...

Like it or not “We are a family”. One thing we need to learn to do is disagree with each other, yet still be friends and show you each other respect. The moment some of you disagree with each other, it's like you're immediately enemies. (Lol some times it's actually kinda cute) But then sometimes this leads to bans and suspensions... Ugh.. And if you haven't already caught onto my MO, I'm against losing any player here in any form or fashion. Right or wrong, high skill or low. In-game or on the forum. I want us all to stay. So when I see some of you getting banned left and right. I'm not happy about that at all. : (

So please stop getting each other banned and suspended for disagreeing with each other and taking it too far!

>_____________<! - My face.

"But Etro~ THIS IS SPARTAAAA AND WE MUST FIGHT!" - You Guys.

No lol. No it's not, and we can get along just fine if we put the effort in. We are all mature enough to do this.

The Dedication...

Some of you spend all your time on this game because it's something you love to do. I love that and will never put you down for it. We have some true talent here, in-game and out. Whether you are:

• A natural at playing at high level.
• An entertaining streamer
• An artist who is able to create some great art. This has already been used to spice up some people's streams and more.
• Some of you can make music which could be applied to videos that some of you already make.
• Some of you have created websites where you can check and analyze your stats whenever you want!
• Some of you are just down right too clever and intelligent on here.

Just watch I'll show you some of the awesomeness in all of you.

I could go on forever with some of these. The people I’ve met on Balmung and the streams alone, has just been amazing. I’m grateful to have met these people, and it's possible all because we have one thing in common. Get to know each other, combine your skills, do some amazing things that all relate and are inspired by your equal love for this game. Or Just be friends yo…

Most of you are probably like me. Just enjoy playing the game no strings attached. I only came out of my shell because I saw this community could and does have something to offer. All of your skills are valuable, we can have way more fun and build great things. The same things that you see every other community have. With the time, effort and money you are all putting into this game, you guys deserve great things too.

Some of you are putting in some serious hours on this game by playing and/or posting here on the forums. I respect that so much, you don't even know. But some threads is just like watching your little brothers and sisters fight over the last piece of cake lol.

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D’aww XD

I have seen a change in many of your attitudes though. I’m also seeing players come out of the woodworks, that have probably lurked for years like I have. And I'm happy about that, it motivates me to stay here and enjoy being part of something that is growing. ^^

Coexistence...

Yea I know we don't always agree with each other. Sometimes I make posts just for the lurkers here. But this one definitely is for all of you.

Side note: We should make more use of Light Party. I mean how hard was it to make a premade for Seal Rock? Yet we was able to perform that feat. Right? We can still get 8 of our friends (from multiple Grand Companies) to party up and get some scrims in. How cool does that sound? A game with no noobs in it. You can even switch up the teams so you can balance the odds out a truly train with each other.

On top of that you might get some random teams queuing up too. And Bam! Before you know it you're all enjoying Light Party and Solo Q. We can do stuff like this guys. I mean how many of you are in a LinkShells with 8+ people Queuing for Solo Q at a time... I know I'm in a few.

Ok I’m sidetracking here…

We need each other to fully enjoy this game. As I said “We are a family”. None of you/us are bad people. The game can be as fun, chilled, serious or depressing as you make it.

I'm writing this because this section of the forum needs it. To remind us why you came to the forums in the first place... It wasn’t for half of this.

TL;DR: Better scroll back up and read that.

Started noticing some of your positivity posts around here Jazz. Good on you for spreading the love.

I've been discussing the negatives quite a bit lately, but the positives far outweigh them. This is my favorite game ever and I've made a lot of friends here. Given time I can even forgive the bad people in the community, I don't harbor grudges forever.

I also really appreciate the work the FF XIV team are doing listening to feedback, communicating with us, doing their best to fix things with patches and weed out the cheaters.

AGHH THE POSITIVITY, the niceness!! its burns...IM MELTING

This is good. I'm really happy to see an effort made to foster a more positive community (even in competition). As much as I often silently rage/revel behind the screen, in the end I'm always happy to meet good players with good attitudes. I'm even beginning to see friends in there (and thus, be honor-bound to crush them).

Keep up the positive vibes, people. And see you in the Pit <3

Somehow, this is exactly the kind of post I'd expect to see from someone on Balmung, lol.

I had a really positive thing happen today, I argued with a tank who told me I was bad, so next match it was vs him on the other team and I proceeded to do 232k damage and destroy their team. Was really feeling positive after that. I also waxed the floor with a low dps drg that was on my team then on the other team vs me twice in a row. Great times.

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Oh don't worry I know your really good I told you about it.

And I hope that's the end of that! :)

Anywhoo~

Today about 1hr ago I started to invite new players to a private LS on Balmung. Strictly for people who are interested in The Feast, so i can go into light party with them all and learn/teach/experience the feast without the... you know. Anyway! We have a discord that mirrors the LS and a mini skype group as an alternative for communication. Anyone else who would like to join something like this and is also on Balmung. Please let me know.

Send a /tell "Etro's Soul".

Then I will invite you to a discord channel and introduce myself and explain more, so you can get a feel for what this is all about. Takes about 2-5mins and no mic is required on your end. :)

We are @ 10 members Wohooo! Most of them have not even seen the inside of feast. XD

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Originally Posted by Destroyer

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Don't meant to extend the derail, op, but i feel it's important to reply here. I think it pertains to positivity anyway

Rotokk, sorry you had to deal with this kind of stuff. I suspect these types of encounters and conversations are the reason pushing you to quit. It's quite unfortunate that what will end up happening is a player like yourself, who generally is very positive and has a lot to bring to the community will be leaving the scene, pushed out by caustic players who stay behind.


For those reading, what you're basically seeing is someone who's a great player, but an even better person online, about to move on. There will be a void. Obviously it's his choice so it's not like one can solely place blame on another individual, but think about the factors leading up to why he's going to quit, as mentioned here and in his other post. Realistically, yes, this is the kind of thing that does happen in any competitive scene, where things at stake cause people to really show their true colors, being nasty towards each other, and generally making for a bad environment. You'll never make it go away completely, but we can still do some things right.

Personally, for me, it's not so much that a guy doesn't play well, or he's making mistakes. It's that you have these caustic players who feel this gigantic sense of entitlement about what they deserve when most often they didn't do enough work to get to where the top players are. And most of the time it's these same players who lash out when some try to give advice, and it's their arrogance and ego that prevents them from actually absorbing constructive criticism, or in many cases, causes the team to fail. If i play with some inexperienced players, oh well, that's the name of the game. But when I try to let them know "hey next time you have to watch your stacks, can't pick up 10" and then they start going full on nuclear, that's when i get really pissed. That, to me, is one of the biggest things wrong with the community.

I can understand that a lot of these emotions are knee jerk, and sometimes difficult to deal with. I say a lot of things i know i shouldn't say as well. But if you know you're wrong about how you treat people, try as best you can to rein it in and contribute something positive, or helpful when you can. I know i can't hit on that 100% of the time, but at least i try. And if some of us can do better even a little bit, that'll be worth it.

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Originally Posted by Destroyer

So when i try so hard to win, and then, as the truth is it is a team game, my team doesnt quite make it to victory, and I simply cant carry them...

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Well now..for anyone who ever had a genuine heart for the good fight. Won't lie...that line actually made my eyes tear up damn you.

First off..OP, you get a max-sized Roe boobie smother hug for the topic. While its my personal belief that the more malice/ hatred/ rivalry/ murderous intent there is in pvp the more enjoyable it is (human nature is horrible) have to keep reminding myself that at the end of the day its just a game, not a thing more. To that end, I admit Ive had to work on not mouthing off, either in response to something else or when someone whose consistantly low damagewise for w/e reason pops on team. Yeah, its stressful knowing my own arse is on the line because of it but considering how much I screw up myself (since brd days in WD) finding it more...decent...just to switch over to Ls chat and keep me mouth shut. World'l keep spinning just the same.

As for Makado and Roto, you both get slaps of shame. Makado is easily one of the best tanks I've played beside-- back during seal rock, especially in low man matches, always drew fire for the team, and not just the brainless hi, i r tank, hit meh!, but actually pestered crucial targets like a bulldog, letting me breathe. Not afraid to get bloody if it comes to it. Roto, on the other hand, for SOME strange reason, with that teddybear armor/ happy macro at the start of every match...just makes you wanna go over and hug the hell out of him (tf is up with me and hugs tonight? -_-) You both are good tanks and me is happy whenever either of you pops up. And ya Roto, pvp's an exceedingly fickle thing (the alterations to brd's barrage nearly made me quit brd altogether) so whats here 1 day is a distant memory the next. If you can't find another job that soothes your carnal desires, just stick it out with war, even if you have to adapt to playing it from a different approach than what you've been used to. The insanity of solo que has caught a lot of us offguard, but shrug, accept it for what it is and keep going.

..goes back to punching pillow cuz i r about to fail gold promotion....

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Originally Posted by Destroyer

Thanks for your kind words and good advice. After I made my complaint post I later regret it and would have preferred to just go gently into the night, Like you say, I also end up getting mad and typing things I later regret and I actually let the frustration and anger get to me, I lose control of myself when in real life I actually teach others not to do the same thing. I end up typing things out at players who dont deserve it, why didnt you pick up the medals!!! etc. I wish I was a better person, and apologizing cant take back those actions.

But again, this frustration would not even exist if it were not for the core of the problem. I could take a loss here and there if it was truly earned. You also play Warrior extremely well - if you want, try playing War in the feast sometime against some high tier players. It just feels like tank is a bystander, a passenger, a witness of the action. I feel truly sorry for those who want to play DRK. I can stick perfectly to the healer and combo them essentially ignored, finally becoming useful when stacks get high at least. I have some skills on a long CD, during berserk i am Slightly dangerous and Full Swing is still useful, but not as useful against experienced players, and Thrill of War and mythril tempest are of course great skills but again, long cooldowns. Without the punch it used to have, WAR just doesnt play the same any more, I feel so nerfed whenever I play. So when i try so hard to win, and then, as the truth is it is a team game, my team doesnt quite make it to victory, and I simply cant carry them, i cant brush it off, I am too worked and amped up, it gets to me. The best choice is for me to play a different game with my time. I dont see why SE decided to reduce tank damage so much. I think, maybe I am wrong, I want to like FF14, but just played another game where I was constantly attacking the enemy team, downing player left and right (despite weak WAR), and my team lost because they cannot pick up medals correctly. I win the next one but the first one just leaves a bad taste for me.

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Thanks, rotokk. I appreciate the compliment. For those who don't know, rotokk/knight wraith was one of the original great wars/mrds from WD. If you saw knight wraith up against you in WD, it usually didn't end well for your team. Personally i would always hate it because all i would ever think was "this guy's warrior is SO much better than mine" and i just didn't know how to make up the difference lol. But that's a digression, and i really just want to help others have a better sense of where he's coming from and where his background lies, and that so many things going on now are making the game not fun for him. I'm certain others as well.

Also in case i'm mistaking your post, rotokk, the last part of my post was not directed at you. But really as an overall statement to anyone playing and others who don't have as good an attitude as you, that we can all work better on our emotions to make the environment a more decent place to play in.

About WD, again, and hopefully it's related to the OP still. WD came, and it died out for a long, long period of time. But some guys stayed around, and ever since I played it, probably 95% of the time everyone was pretty respectful and decent to each other, even though there was plenty of bad play and bad players. Yes there are actual things at stake this time, and from my own personal experience when that happens people really show their nasty sides. But it's my hope that we can weed out some of the really bad attitudes and make it like the WD i used to know. You win, you lose, but you move on. Having a competitive environment and a friendly one are not mutually exclusive.

I ageee with you completely.

I like you too