Able to dye the hall of novice armor

I understand that its a beginners gear and of course you cannot dye a lot of gears in general but I would like to dye more lower level armor. I think some are way better looking in different colors :D

The armor style is copied in some other dyable styles. Personally, I'm glad there's now an actual dark colored lowbie set instead of either a kaleidoscope of rainbow vomit or bright yellow/red/whatever. It's also distinctive the way it is now, and it speaks to the character of the novice that they actually went and did the HoN training instead of bypassing it and buying inferior equipment.

And lose another dyeable model that was previously exclusive to BRd/MCH? No thanks.

There are already the red and black variations of it, and then the BRD/ MCH-specific Saurian version which you can dye. It seems a bit superfluous to make another.

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Originally Posted by LordLucavi

The armor style is copied in some other dyable styles. Personally, I'm glad there's now an actual dark colored lowbie set instead of either a kaleidoscope of rainbow vomit or bright yellow/red/whatever. It's also distinctive the way it is now, and it speaks to the character of the novice that they actually went and did the HoN training instead of bypassing it and buying inferior equipment.

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^This. Specifically, their models are all directly based on dyeable ilevel 70 and 90 PvP gear - the tank novice gear is a palette swap of the level 50 ilevel 70 Warwolf Fending set, and the healer/mage/melee novice set is a palette swap of the level 50 ilevel 90 Direwolf sets (the later which exists separate 'healing', 'casting', 'maiming' and 'striking' sets for offensive mages, light and heavy melee respectively), which is naturally based on the level 15 Acolyte's (mage) and Foestriker sets (melee) respectively. These sets all require participation in PvP to gain Wolf Marks to acquire from an npc at the Wolves' Den, and can all be dyed to whatever colour you wish.

So yeah, the Novice sets will not be made dyeable for this reason - their models already exist in dyeable versions as other gear sets (it should also go without saying too that the tank gear is also the equipment worn by Mylla, the Guildmistress of the GLA's Guild in Ul'dah, but that's another story. ;)).

I support this.

The healer set is already available in a dyeable form, I believe as the i90 Cashmere/Saurian set.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

The healer set is already available in a dyeable form, I believe as the i90 Cashmere/Saurian set.

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It is? That's great to know! Thanks, Ashkendor.

Every armor should be dyable

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Originally Posted by Celef

Every armor should be dyable

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No every armor should not be dyable, cause as i said in another posts everyonw just dyes it black or white.

That and some small details of armor sets gt ruined when they get dyed.

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Originally Posted by TheValiantOne

No every armor should not be dyable, cause as i said in another posts everyonw just dyes it black or white.

That and some small details of armor sets gt ruined when they get dyed.

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And what about the other people ? those who never use black or white ? personnaly I fancy rollanberry red (not sure of the colour name in english) blue and even green ^^"
Plus, who cares if they are dyable and people only dye them black or white (Ooh, ooh Yeah, yeah, yeah, now.....sorry ^^") why can't we just choose ? ^^"

Because choice is an illusion

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Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho

It is? That's great to know! Thanks, Ashkendor.

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There's actually three dyeable sets of this gear. Cashmere and Augmented Cashmere as well as the Direwolf set. Keep in mind they are all healer sets.

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

And lose another dyeable model that was previously exclusive to BRd/MCH? No thanks.

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yeah....we cant have nice things i gues.....still bitter about Kirimu Coat variation ¬¬

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

yeah....we cant have nice things i gues.....still bitter about Kirimu Coat variation ¬¬

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Everyone wants everything (Sun dance, hair, glamour, etc) we aren't allowed to have exclusives

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Everyone wants everything (Sun dance, hair, glamour, etc) we aren't allowed to have exclusives

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Well you can also ask why everyone wants exclusives ? I think there is an expression in english regarding this "special snowflake" is it ?

i wouldnt mind sharing the AF1 Af2 but guess no1 wants it :P , i still think job (or even role) identity is important , i dont want to look like a BLM when im playing my NIN , nor look like a tank when playing SCH... is cool to have some gearsets that look different , but when every1 is sharing gear sets that were exclusive to some jobs ...it kinda feels like a cheapshot.

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Originally Posted by Celef

Well you can also ask why everyone wants exclusives ? I think there is an expression in english regarding this "special snowflake" is it ?

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I also been asking why everything has to be unlocked by everything, but *shrug*

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Originally Posted by Celef

Well you can also ask why everyone wants exclusives ?

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One major reason is that they want to be a bit more distinct from others. Everyone looking pretty much the same makes for a fairly boring game.

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I think there is an expression in english regarding this "special snowflake" is it ?

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No. A "special snowflake" is someone who believes that they should be treated special because they think they are different therefore better and/or unique. Hardcore raiders complaining about upgrade tokens being available from "casual" 24 man raid content is an example of special snowflake syndrome.

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Originally Posted by Celef

Well you can also ask why everyone wants exclusives ? I think there is an expression in english regarding this "special snowflake" is it ?

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It has nothing to do with this and everything to do with wanting classes to maintain some sort of identity.

inb4 bikini/snowman glamours cause tbh I don't really like those either.

The hall of novice gear has a shelf life of about five levels. The only reason the crafted versions have a longer shelf life is because they can be dyed. Secondly and more importantly, because these items have darker color palettes they should be visibly different from the other variants. The direwolf coat of casting is visibly different from the cashmere coat of casting even when dyed. There isn't any more identity lost than me dying my lore gear white as a blackmage.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

No. A "special snowflake" is someone who believes that they should be treated special because they think they are different therefore better and/or unique. Hardcore raiders complaining about upgrade tokens being available from "casual" 24 man raid content is an example of special snowflake syndrome.

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Thank you for the explanation, english is not my mother tongue so sometimes i don't understand the expressions :)

And, if we all get all the option, wouldn't be easier not to look like everyone ? therefore, being more dinstinct from others so no one needs exclusive in the end ?

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Originally Posted by TheValiantOne

No every armor should not be dyable, cause as i said in another posts everyonw just dyes it black or white.

That and some small details of armor sets gt ruined when they get dyed.

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So? That's their choice to make. If you prefer the original colour, you're welcome to keep it.

Personally if I get some gear item that I don't like the colour of (even if I like the shape) and I can't dye it, I'm just going to glamour over it. And then all the work the design team put into it is wasted.

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Originally Posted by TheValiantOne

No every armor should not be dyable, cause as i said in another posts everyonw just dyes it black or white.

That and some small details of armor sets gt ruined when they get dyed.

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I feel like that's just your personal hangup, and you don't want to see everyone dying themselves a to a certain color. Which would already be happening anyway because people tend to seek out dyable versions of their favorite gear anyway.

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

And lose another dyeable model that was previously exclusive to BRd/MCH? No thanks.

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BRD should have never got that set to themselves in the first place, especially when all DoW DPS had it to begin with.


*sulks in DRG corner*

I'd like to see some Heavy Armor become available for other classes than Tanks/DoW... :\

Personally, the only gear sets that should remain exclusive to their respective classes/jobs are the artifact gear(s). Anything else should be worn by either class.

Ironworks Caster hood on all the Other Ironworks equipment would be AMAZING.

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Originally Posted by Celef

And, if we all get all the option, wouldn't be easier not to look like everyone ? therefore, being more dinstinct from others so no one needs exclusive in the end ?

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Yes and No. Potential diversity would be greater but Actual diversity would be less as more players would chose the most popular options over less popular ones that they might have chosen if the didn't have access to the popular option.